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What spectacular vindication! Japanese cannot play rugby? South Africa is so much the superior foe? Yes, one was castigated as stupid, but here, once more, we find ourselves in the same familiar ground as before: I warned you all. 
Where did it all go wrong? Well, as I said before, Japanese rugby is much, much faster than SH rugby and they play with ball in hand almost exclusively. When structuring attack, they are far ahead of South Africa. And we saw plenty of that from the very first minutes. They had a 10 who played flat and runners running intelligent lines and coming onto the ball at pace stressing every point of the defence. Willie wasn't there to mask our poor centre play, creating space and directing play. Where were Lambie and Pienaar? Where was Steph? This is most embarrassing. 

 You ignore the huge SH contribution ,6 Kiwi players an Aussie and SA coach .4 years the Japanese spent preparing for this game and it shows .

This loss is only a surprise because South Africa and other first tier countries have such a narrow worldview. Japan has had superior backline and attacking play ever since they started to get serious about rugby. Long ago. Had anyone actually watched their rugby, they'd have noted that the Japanese almost never kick, they frequently run from 22 to 22. Think of what culture that creates. Not just running up and down the field, but with highly sophisticated structures and plays. The Boks literally took Japan on at what it does best, and you wonder why the team lost. 
Since when have Pienaar and Lambie ever been apart of any successful attacking backline? Never. Since when has Kriel done anything? What of Mvovo? Victor created more ball in hand than our centres. Where was Steph? The best Boks were the old heads, aside from a scrappy showing by Bissie and his hopeless brother.
What makes this worse, Japan had two months to prepare for this game. Eddie Jones knew what to prepare for. We were ambushed. What is worse than  the loss itself is the attitude of the fake fans. We truly have the worst fans in all of sports. 

 Tx, Cloudy. It's a crying shame that so called Bok supporters don't share your sentiments.

 

 
but but but I thought you said Zumas Goat would be bringing the trophy home, Fox.

What happened?

A minow comes in, bends your boys over, giving them a jolly good rogering!!





 

 Lets see how Japan does for the rest of the tournament. I think that it was a brilliant game plan by Eddie Jones. Knew exactly how to nullify the boks. Go low and go hard in the tackle. Swarm the ball carrier, the boks are really poor at cleaning out their own ball. 
The Japs got knocked back but I never saw them lose the ball in contact. 

 Card really many have complained about meyer and you say he gave us what we wanted. Hahahhahahaha  You cant balme one player for loosing the game. lambie was okay but Pollard will always be the better player as he isa great in the making.
If you wnat to know why we lost read my posts on the subject.King Korn deals with the tactical side well in his post above. Jones out smarted Meyer completely. The biggets rugby disaster in our history.
Posters like Dr Mozzz. cerudunce windpomp, Dessrt Fox, dense and a few others have been telling us all is well. Experience has been made a god of and meyer excused at every turn. This was the most experienced Bok side ever!All we ask is they admit they got it hopelessly wrong and will in future heed the warnings of Beeno! 

 @DF,

"Actually, Japanese rugby has been improving steadily over many years now. I have been jeeping an eye on Japanesd rugby for over a decade and have seen quite a large number of games. It's faster than Super rugby with an almost absolute preference for playing ball in hand."

the last results of Japan

-3 August 2015: Tonga 31-Japan 20

-29 July 2015:     Fiji    27-Japan 22

-24 July 2015:    USA    23-Japan 18

-18 July 2015:  Canada 6-Japan  20

In 2014 they were also beaten twice by the MaoriAB (one of them 21-61)

the last results against tier one nations (if we exclude the win against a third string Wales when most of the welsh were playing with the British & Irish Lions):

-November 2013:                All Blacks 54-Japan 6

-16 September 2011-RWC:   All Blacks 83-Japan 7


This is not yet about the Japanese improvement (they have to confirm it with another win against Samoa and/or Scotland), this is about the sinking of the boks.
The collapse has been of epic proportions and even though very few expected the dimensions of such a crack-up, it was a very anticipated collapse.
Meyer's building of the team has been disastrous for the last 4 years, his unconditional bet for an old guard that is not up to test level which implied negl ecting the promotion of the youngs who could be their replacements gave the result of a team made of a mix of oldies-not up to test level and inexperienced youngs.

You backed Meyer and his policies for the whole time and now you come saying that "I warned you all"????????

Meyer's work had been good until the EOYT last year. From there it all began to unravel. Had he kept true to what he had been working towards, with the personnel he had been working with, something like this could have been avoided. We would probably have won the Rugby Championship this year. 
Beeno, I never said all was well. I predicted that if Meyer went the route of giving the pseudo fans what they wanted, abandoning what was a successful formula things, would be bad. I was right. 

seeing forwards run of first receiver from quick first phase ball. one off runners ext piss poor speed at the ruck by the worst no 9 in the rwc namely pienaar. louw that is getting raped at every breakdown.....ext ext its blantantly obvious we are in tough rwc but meyer has only himself to blame for this.
post rwc he needs to go with immediate effect