So how do you improve the Springbok team?
Its easy to improve that Bok side, a side that was pretty poor last year bar that test against Oz. 58% win record is just not good enough.
Willie and Habana are the obvious choices at 15 and 11. Willie is no experiment, he is just what we need in a backline devoid of attacking instincts. Agreed we have to move on from Basson, he is piss poor and always failed at test level. With JP unavailable, the speedster Mvovo is our best option. v/d Heever should have received better treatment from the Stormers, but sadly their snubbing has lead to him leaving for Ireland.
JJ would be completely wasted on the wing.....I dont get how anyone can conclude he is better on the wing, given we saw very little of him there in the years he played on the wing.....he got very little game time back then. JJ has been the best SA 13 I have seen in years, he has more potential than the likes of Fourie and Joubert. He adds a whole new dimension to centre play given his speed and feet. Its been a while since a centre made me sit on the edge of my seat. I expect things to happen when he hasball in hand. Serfontein has the same buzz about him. Neither Serfontein or Jean would make an impressioin at 13 for they simply do not have the pace. They would end providing us with something solid, nothing special. Serfontein and JJ have to be our centres, its time to move on from Jean.
Morne is not better than Lambie on current form. I dont buy into Lambie being poor this year at all. An out of form Lambie is a better pick than the bog ordinary Morne at 10. He has lead us nowhere for years, so why should that change now. I'm with Sas, I'd rather see Pienaar at 10 than Morne.
du Preez is a ridiculous selection and has Meyer's conservatism written all over it and more than anything, another instrument in that out of date kick and chase tactic. In the absence of Hougaard, v/Zyl should have started.
Beast is a must at 1 as is Bismark at 2 with Strauss on the bench. We need Bismarks strength come test time. Jannie might still work at 3, but Coenie, Malherbe, Marcel v/d Merwe and Frik Kirsten are the future. Herbst looks handy but I am not yet convinced. I would select Jannie at 3, but would get Coenie on at 3 as part of his development as a 3, for that is where we need him. He has been good there all year for the Cheetahs.
Eben a must, Kruger a definite not. He might be mobile but you never see him with ball in hand. He is no master in the line-outs, he takes his ball but is hardly a stealer. He provides no grunt and is a sad excuse for a test lock. We have many youngsters who provide far better options. Play the impressive de Jager at 4 and move Eben to 5.
Brussouw was a must for 6 and Meyer should have chased CJ Stander for 8.
This Bok side is better than the one that played Samoa:
15. Willie 14. Mvovo 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Habana 10. Lambie 9. v/Zyl 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Jannie 4. de Jager 5. Etzebeth 6. Brussouw 7. Elstadt 8. CJ Stander 16. Kitshoff 17. Coenie 18. Strauss 19.Flip 20. Coetzee 21. Reinach 20. Jean 21. de Allende
My Bok side come next year would be:
15. Taute 14. JP 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Willie 10. Goosen 9. Hougaard 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Coenie 4. Etzebeth 5. Steph du Toit 6. Brussouw 7. Arno Botha 8. CJ Stander 16. Kitshoff 17. Marcel v/d Merwe 18. Strauss 19. Jacques du Plessis 20. Elsadt 21. v/Zyl 22. Lambie 23. Frans
Just got done writing what I think of the FDP experiment and I agree he could be a huge asset - to our tactical and running game if Meyer is genuine in that endeavour. FDP has the ability to read the situation and know when its on and when its not.
Have also been saying for a while that the JJ to wing move is a great idea - actually surprised Meyer didn't try it in the June tests. If it doesn't work, then move him back to 13. The greatest benefit obviously is to get your best playmakers on the field at the same time and this would make room for Serfside Motel to set up shop at 13 or 12. JJ has the pace and step for wing, my only question is how is he under the high ball?
If the AB's are going to persist with their plan of an increased tempo game plan this year (have to wonder about that because didn't really see it against France) it would make sense to have two fetchers on the team to spoil that, would it not? I am a little skeptical that type of expansive game plan will succeed against the best international teams however - the field just isn't any bigger, but the speed and accuracy of the defensive players and defensive structures are constantly improving. Test matches have a slower pace than the S15 and there is good reason for that.
So we spent all of last year looking for a Bok 13, we find the perfect answer this year in JJ and now some want to move him to wing - I give up!
Dave we both want the Boks to do more....ball in hand. My approach is to incrementally improved the existing players, focus on missing skills and improve execution. Yours is to sweep clean. Both approaches will work at various points in time.....but how many times haven't you seen wholesale changes lead to abysmal results. The team loses its reference points, loses, loses confidence and a downward spiral takes hold.
In business I loved it when our competitors put all their focus on new products......we took the old favourites, spent our money to dominate share of voice and laughed at the chaos as our market shares jumped. Put a bit of coaching behind proven test players, spice up the brew with a Willie and you have your best shot.
But I can't formulate a differential equation to prove all this.....so we will just have to see. But Meyer needs to get more attacking nous to guide the team
Instead of writing a 3000 word essay about pipe dreams and what ifs
I have a simple solution
STOP THE BULLS WASTING TALENT
Krueger - welcome to the board.
Cheetahs fan, huh?
You think Rhule is ready for international rugby?
Very true - the games against the Argies while not to be taken lightly would be the only time to experiment in the RC.
BTW Krueger if you are interested in SuperBru or fantasy rugby we have an active contingent here and can give you the necessary info to sign up
I am not pro the retention of Jean as he has been solid nothing more and his best days are done. I'd be moving on for various reasons. Firtsly I believe Serfontein and JJ are our two best centres, they are young and developing as a pair both at provincial and test level.
I would not want to see a year or two of JJ wasted on the wing. But most importantly, neither Serfontein nor Jean will have the same impact as JJ at 13 for they do not possess his pace.
But I do get Moz's angle on wanting our best attackers on the field and without JP, the one wing spot leaves us short and having Jean on the field ahead of say Mvovo or Rhule is a positive. But for me retaining the young centre partnership and not wasting JJ on the wing outweighs having Jean on the field at centre, so my call would always be Serfontein and JJ at centre.


