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So howwill things go this week end?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2012, 15:41
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01 Mar 2012, 15:41#1

Here are some views ex Keo:

LIONS vs HURRICANES, JOHANNESBURG, FRI 19:10

VREDE’S CALL: If the Lions are to improve their Super Rugby standing they simply cannot lose to sides as poor as the Canes. The Stormers’ self-imposed slumber allowed the Canes back into the contest last week, but the Canes are sure to finish the season near the foot of the log. The Lions haven’t beaten them since 2007 and have consistently had 30 points-plus put on them. But this is a shadow of those Canes sides and indeed the Lions have made notable strides under coach John Mitchell. Their gainline contest will be central to their success. If they can blunt the Canes’ momentum they will force them into cavalier attacks. Penalties will follow and with goal kicker Elton Jantjies burning white hot at the moment the Lions will keep the scoreboard ticking over. Their attack has never been in question against opponents of this calibre. This is a match the Lions will have to win on defence. Lions by 7
JC’S CALL: If the Lions attempt to run the ball from all corners they are only going to play into the Hurricanes’ hands. The Wellington side is rebuilding and their lack of synergy and experience up front was exposed at Newlands last week. The Lions need to exert similar pressure in the tight and also at the collisions, and cash in on any opportunities that come their way. There will be a temptation to throw the ball around in the second half as the altitude takes its toll on a young Hurricanes side(PLEASE NOTE THE ALTITUDE ISSUE), but the Lions must realise that there’s an opportunity for a four-try bonus point if they keep hammering away at the visiting pack. Lions by 9   CHEETAHS vs BULLS, BLOEMFONTEIN, SAT 17:05 VREDE’S CALL: With their win over the Sharks the Bulls went some way to dispelling the suggestion they won’t be a force this season. They started poorly but settled into a pattern that they will exhibit once more in Bloemfontein. If they execute it as well as they did against the Sharks they will demolish the Cheetahs, who don’t have the patience or personnel for a kicking duel. I suspect they will want to land haymakers (read: attempts at long-range kick returns after their back three have been turned) upon which their carriers will be isolated and forced into penalties. Morné Steyn is the pre-eminent goal kicker in the competition at present  and will gradually build the Bulls’ lead. With superiority at the set phases, greater punch at the gainline (reducing Heinrich Brüssow’s threat) and vulnerabilities in the Cheetahs’ defensive line, there will be no shortage of opportunities for the Bulls to score the couple of tries it will take for them to pull into the distance. Bulls by 10
JC’S CALL: Steyn’s goal-kicking is potentially match-winning as far as this game is concerned, although I feel he made a bigger statement with his kicking out of hand against the Sharks. A slick lineout and a savagely determined breakdown effort handed him a platform, and Steyn took full advantage by booting the cover off the ball and winning the territorial battle. There could be a repeat performance in Bloemfontein unless this Cheetahs pack finds the motivation needed to halt the Bulls’ momentum. They have the kickers in Tewis de Bryn, Johan Goosen and Hennie Daniller to challenge the Bulls in a kicking battle but they will need the forwards to fire at the breakdowns and lineouts. It’s a tough one to pick considering this match is being played in Cheetahs country and the Bulls are still forging a new combination, but on the virtue of last week’s lineout showing and the form Steyn showed, I’d have to back the Bulls to take this one. Bulls by 5   MIGHTY STORMERS vs SHARKS, CAPE TOWN, SAT 19:10 VREDE’S CALL: There was little to inspire in the Mighty Stormers’ victory over the Canes last week but that was understandable given the infancy of the season. The loss of Schalk Burger is significant in a match that will largely be determined by who bosses the tackle fight. The standard he sets and inspiration he provides in this regard is invaluable to the Stormers. That loss is, however, softened by the absence of Ryan Kankowski and Willem Alberts in the Sharks’ ranks, ensuring the visitors don’t hold a notable advantage there. The Stormers have long abandoned their cavalier nature and are now a wholly more pragmatic side than they had previously been. The Bulls showed the value in such an approach, pinning the Sharks in their territory through accurate kicks and backing their defence to pressure them into errors. In the halfback duo of Gary van Aswegen and Dewaldt Duvenage and fullback Joe Pietersen they have competent tactical kickers who have the capacity to replicate the Bulls’ successful blueprint. Pietersen showed his aptitude as a goal-kicker last week and if the Stormers can build pressure on the Sharks in their territory his boot could be the difference. Their pack scrummed and mauled well against the Canes and will hold an edge here as well as at lineout time, where the Sharks struggled in Pretoria. If the Sharks stay in touch until the final quarter their superior bench could win it for them. But I think the Stormers will close it out before then. Stormers by 8
JC’S CALL: The Sharks are missing power players like Alberts and Jean Deysel, and this will limit their impact at the gainline. Bismarck du Plessis should still be a key figure for the visitors but he cannot be expected to win a fight of this nature all by himself. Because of injuries, John Plumtree has been forced to pick smaller players in the back row, but perhaps the breakdown strengths of Keegan Daniel, Marcell Coetzee and specialist fetcher Jacques Botes can be used to good effect. Du Plessis is also an exceptional forager on the ground, and it is here where the Sharks may cause problems for a Stormers side that has neglected to pick a fetcher in their match 22. The Stormers are banking on bulldozing the Sharks at the tackle point, and thus nullifying their ball-stealers. Provided the Stormers stick to their structures and maintain their discipline, they will succeed in securing quality attacking ball. But if the Sharks can stand up to this assault and then disrupt and niggle, they could force the hosts to concede penalties and lose their rhythm. If the Sharks are successful in their attempts to stifle the Stormers, then that pressure will be transferred onto young flyhalf Gary van Aswegen. The Sharks need to do something to compromise the Stormers’ sound defence, and winning the tackle fight is the only way they are going to win the match. It will also be interesting to see how much they kick on Saturday, as the Stormers boast a superior lineout unit and will be expected to dominate the Sharks in this facet. Stormers by 7 Stormers – 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Gary van Aswegen, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Nick Koster, 7 Duane Vermeulen, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 De Kock Steenkamp, 19 Nizaam Carr, 20 Louis Schrueder, 21 Peter Grant, 22 Gerhard van den Heever. Sharks – 15 Riaan Viljoen, 14 Louis Ludik, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Frederic Michalak, 8 Keegan Daniel (c), 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Jacques Botes, 5 Ross Skeate, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Wiehahn Herbst, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Dale Chadwick.
Subs: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Jannie du Plessis, 18 Anton Bresler, 19 Lubabalo Mtembu, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Marius Joubert, 22 Paul Jordaan   Hopefully the sharkies are going to battle against the Stormers tight five and will get scant assistance from their loose trio. They may be wanting to play a high tempo running game. Down with the guppies!! I also trust the Cheetahs will show da bulle the door!  Great duel betwen Goosen and Steyn in prospect. Cheetahs needed Juan and Osthuizen fo this one.  

 

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
01 Mar 2012, 16:40
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01 Mar 2012, 16:40#2

The Stormers have the edge over the Sharks. Almost every area of the Shark's game has regressed. I'll pick the Stormers to take it by 10.

The Lions on the otherhand do not convince me. I think think they are overhyped. It's hard to call this one though, I'll go with the Lions to sneak it by 2.

Now onto the big one. I really do believe the Cheetahs have the edge over the Bulls. The two best flyhalves going head-to-head will be a masterclass for sure. The only advantage I give them is in the lineouts. I'll put my neck on the line and call a Cheetahs win here, a close one though.
 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Mar 2012, 16:46
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01 Mar 2012, 16:46#3

No use in pasting these two clowns' stuff one here. They don't  know what they are talking about most of the time. Thsi Cardinelli clown had all the reliable sources about the Spingbok coach and his supporting staf, and that changed around every other day. I wonder if he has realised that Meyer has been appointed after all and that neither of Rassie, Paul Treu or Gert Smal will be/has been appointed yet in any position.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2012, 17:53
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01 Mar 2012, 17:53#4

windpomp it has not passed unnoticed that you have dodged the issue re the outcome of the bulle/cheetahs match. All this obsfuscation windpomp is to no avail.

Like Card, I pick the Stormers to win. Bulle should win by 10 but hope cheetahs pull it off. I also think the Lions could win this. If they dont win at home and at altitude I think it is a clear indication of problems to come.

 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:06
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01 Mar 2012, 18:06#5

What are you on about ou Beenbal? If you had the guts to try your hand at Superbru, you would have been able to see my picks long ago.

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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:07
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01 Mar 2012, 18:07#6

Stormers to win at a canter. Stormers by 10+

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:21
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01 Mar 2012, 18:21#7

windpomp I explained why I dont do superbru. But I am quite happy to post my predictions here so your point flops as usual.

No windpmp wha tdo you predict? Come on you can only be wrong!

Hey sharkie that's not like you.  I am sure the sharks will be up for this one! Should be a great game.

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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:26
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01 Mar 2012, 18:26#8

No Beeno....I am just being realistic. Stormers will be SA conference winners again this year, and quite possibly semi-finalists again. They may even pull it through this year.

Sharks ? Kak....I have seen this crap too many times before to bother getting worked up about it.

In a way I actually hope the Stormers give them a thorough p$%# klap this weekend.

Maybe next season, Plumtree will be more careful with conditioning and be sure that his aces are ready to play come Super rugby season. Thats if the oke is clever enough for that.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:27
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01 Mar 2012, 18:27#9

Since you are having sleepless nights over it, there you go ou Beenbal:

vlagman (you) Stormers by 5   0.0 0.0 0.00

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Copied straight from Superbru, and no, you have not explained why you are too scared to try your hand at Superbru.

Where is yours?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:42
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01 Mar 2012, 18:42#10

windpomp my predictions are above. Time factor windpomp. I do not have the time as I said before to watch all matches. Usually, as I said before, I confine myself to SA side games and the odd premuim match.

Please note I made a prediction re each SA side unlike you. 

I trust your reports to hawker are going well?

Hahahhahahahaha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2012, 18:48
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01 Mar 2012, 18:48#11

Sharkie you raise a significant point. Are the players hitting their straps now the players that will be peaking come  the business end of the comp. I think you also have to take into account the conditions the sharks train in. Currently very hot. Nevertheless they looked reasonably fit. Quite an achievemnet.

Most sides looked rusty so that has to be factored in as well. No its far, far to early to be sure about too much.

I think you will be more optimistic after this weekend though.

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UmgeniSharkRookie62 posts
01 Mar 2012, 20:15
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01 Mar 2012, 20:15#12

@Sharky....the strange thing is they put most of the emphasis on conditioning pre-season. Since December all we heard was how fit and strong the team would be blah blah blah.

The horrible 2010 season beckons. remember that huh? first 5 games all lost.

A scary thought. if they play as crappy as you think they will this year, they should win the vodacom cup next year cause thats where they'll be playing. The Kings will take their place. hahahahaha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Mar 2012, 11:02
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02 Mar 2012, 11:02#13

Um shark the sharks lost a close away game and have not lost a home game. Get some perspective!! The bulle could equally have lost that game.

That is the trouble so often. A side wins by 1 point and is praised to the heavens. The side loosing is catigated and written off as useless. The next week they win and suddenly they are the greatest. reality flys out the window and delusionalism rules!

The Sharks remain a good side and at full strength will whip the hapless queens by 60 points. Away with that rabble!! They must earn their stripes.

What the heck is going on here when I have to support the sharkies in the interest of truth!!!!

 

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