SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Jul 2014, 16:13#2
Well given they have Pienaar as number 1 about sums that poll up you fool
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jul 2014, 16:45#3
Well Dave I can remember when you were adamant that Pienaar should be the Bok flyhalf, his second best position....so complaining about him at scrum half, his best position seems a bit illogical.
But I'd say this survey has it about right. And if Pollard starts having Pienaar around as goal kicking cover is not the worst thing.
Hougaard like JJ is toast.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2014, 16:53#4
I believe that that survey was done about a year ago - otherwise Fourie du Preez would have featured as well. So lets get this straight =
* Pienaar is going backwards and that is a fact;* Hougaard did not have a good game on Saturday and the question is - when last did he have a good game?* Reinach only came to the fore last year as a scrummie and was very junior at that time.

sharkbok
Captain23,295 posts

sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
03 Jul 2014, 16:54#5
Careful Kingcorn, Hougie is on the Saffex favourite list. It is unreasonable to question a favourite of Saffex.
03 Jul 2014, 18:18#6
Nope, it was done on Monday,
Who should start at scrum-half for the Springboks in the Rugby Championship?
Du Preez is out for the rest of the year.
Don't get me wrong Dave, I like Hougaard but he has been struggling at 9 MDMonkey D Luffy
Pro6,277 posts
MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
03 Jul 2014, 20:09#10
hougaard is the best halfback in SA, but theres not one coach in SA that can bring out the best in him.
while hes no slowpoke, the likes of reinach and van zyl have habana like acceleration, and that mixed in with the other parts of their game makes them dangerous.
with du preez out, meyer needs to consider starting goosen or boshoff at 10, as the other halfbacks will make the halves pairing an imbalanced duo with mornes pro 10man game.
van zyl shoulkd have stayed with the cheetahs too, what a waste of time going to the bulls.

sharkbok
Captain23,295 posts

sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
04 Jul 2014, 15:40#12
Fourie Dupreez is the best scrum half in South Africa.
Scrumhalfs need to offer a good service and boot, but their option taking is what sets them apart.
Hougaard does not pass as well as FDP, nor does he kick as well. His option taking is not as good as FDP either.
He does offer more around the base of rucks than FDP with sniping runs and he is more physical, but aside from that FDP is bet ter.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jul 2014, 16:06#13
Correction....we think he makes sniping breaks. But I can't remember when last Hougaard made a Faf-like break. He seems dood in sy sokkies....his ref lexes look shot. Kinda like a boxer that can no longer pull the trigger.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2014, 16:48#15
Saffex
With respect - if the best Hougaard can produce is what he produced on Saturday he definitely is not meeting requirements. He was at times woeful in executiion and he made no real impression is anything he tried to do.
I liked Hougaard initially - - but since 2012 he has gonme backwads in performance and he is definitely not international standard at this stage.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2014, 17:05#17
Saffex
Knocking on balls - rolling out passes - slow service - was that good enough?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2014, 17:36#20
Saffex
Sorry I saw more than one bad pass and his service was not all that good in any event. Bt I know you think Houigaard is the best - even in 2012 and 2013 when he wqas extremely poor - so lets leave it at that.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
05 Jul 2014, 17:02#21
Hougaard lost his mojo a long time ago, he has failed to deliver on the early promise he showed us when he first burst onto the scene. It's a great pity as we really have no world class scrummies.