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So, Mitchell the Saviour...

Started by Pakie22 REPLIES903 VIEWS· 06 Aug 2018, 11:44
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Aug 2018, 11:44
#1
06 Aug 2018, 11:44#1
...has pulled a Jake White by all accounts and is abandoning the Bulls and catching a train to England. Bulls looking for a new Super coach. Names mentioned include Jimmy Stonehouse of the Pumas fame and WP's John Dobson.
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XaviPro1,924 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:01
#2
06 Aug 2018, 12:01#2

Bruh, isn't it OBVIOUS that he was let go due to poor performance and things and stuff and reasons. Bro do you even rugby??

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:04
#3
06 Aug 2018, 12:04#3
Mitchell can't handle the pressure or take criticism. He will be better as an assistant coach.
The Bulls job was make or break for him as a head coach. I would have preferred he stayed at the Bulls, but the back half of the season went pear shaped. He done his usual of calling the players crap in the media, etc et.c

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:07
#4
06 Aug 2018, 12:07#4

Bro do you even rugby??

Come on bro, don't be hatin'

He and Eddie should make quite the volatile concoction.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:08
#5
06 Aug 2018, 12:08#5

Maybe the Bulls needs the money that the English will have to pay to get him released from his contract.   At this stage there is no confirmation that he will indeed leave the Bulls.

Howeve r, I think Stonehouse is a likely replacement if he does go.  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:14
#6
06 Aug 2018, 12:14#6

Jones and Mitchell is not going to work. Two highly opinionated authoritarians working together? I don't see that happening, especially with the pressure that's on Jones. At least when Jake leaves, he leaves things in good order, better than when he left. He doesn't create a mess and run way from it. Mitchell should be tremendously ashamed. But wait, he couldn't handle Super rugby, so now fancies himself at international level. In the States, when a coach flounders he often goes back to the college game to reinvent himself, not look for an even bigger position. Strange world, rugby world that is. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:28
#7
06 Aug 2018, 12:28#7

Jones signed with the Stormers and left because of a better contact of the English - they had to pay dearly for his release.   Same will happen with Mitchell - if he in fact leaves.

White left without any contract because he was peeved not getting the Wallaby coach position/   He had no contract lined up and was afterwards signed by the Sharks who fired him after one year.

As to Jones and Mitchell not getting along because both are opinionated - that is a joke too.  There is no more an opinionated coach than White and he and Jones got along well when White got him to work with him to save his bacon in the 2007 WC insofar as backline play is concerned.     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:38
#8
06 Aug 2018, 12:38#8

Save his bacon? Jones was largely a passenger. He said as much himself. Jake and Jones see the game a very similar way. Jones and Mitchell do not. This mix of traits and behaviours is a powder keg waiting to go off. 

Just out of curiosity, because you are such a rugby savant, what exactly did Jones do to "change" Bok backplay in 2007? The Boks had already used all those repertoire of plays before under Jake. Also, where was this great impact to be seen in the friendlies and before Frans came on for Jean. I know where the turning point was, do you? 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:50
#9
06 Aug 2018, 12:50#9

Mitchell seems to be looking for a way out.

It's disappointing to see him tuck tail after only one season.

Sad to see him blaming the Bulls poor season on the players. He should have had the balls to take it on the chin. 

Must say ... I'm rather disappointed with him and his attitude.



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Aug 2018, 12:54
#10
06 Aug 2018, 12:54#10

I've seen worse from him. That mass mutiny he stirred up in Australia was truly ugly. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Aug 2018, 14:58
#11
06 Aug 2018, 14:58#11

Lurker

Ask the squad backline players - they have repeatedly said Jones taught them things about backline play they have never heard before.   That has been written in the media too,   White was never capable of coaching backline players and where he had a strong person in Larkham to coach the Brumbies backline he was successful.  In the case the Sharks the backline failed miserably in 2014 because of the White and Steyn combination.

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WardadPro6,663 posts
06 Aug 2018, 15:10
#12
06 Aug 2018, 15:10#12

Imagine how bad the Bools would have been without Mitchel  ? Betcha didnt think of that eh ?

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 15:20
#13
06 Aug 2018, 15:20#13

Jones a passenger?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!

When was he ever that? You aren't referring to his insightful stint as a consultant with Jake White and the Boks ... are you?

The same coach who cleaned up the Boks with the lowly Japan?

Wow!!!

How disappointing. I thought you may be a knowledgeable new addition to this board. Heaven knows we need it ... turns out your an opinionated prick, totally clueless.

To think that I had you pegged for one of Mozart's aliases.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Aug 2018, 15:24
#14
06 Aug 2018, 15:24#14

Don't worry Mr WD, if the Bulls get Jimmy "My Veins Are Thicker Than Your Arms" Stonehouse, he'll fix them right up.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Aug 2018, 15:26
#15
06 Aug 2018, 15:26#15
Ah well, I guess I can be right all the time......hahaha!
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
06 Aug 2018, 15:29
#16
06 Aug 2018, 15:29#16

Jimmy will have all the Bulls roided up in no time.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 16:04
#17
06 Aug 2018, 16:04#17

You sound envious Pakie?

Are you a weedy dude with 10 inch arms?

Haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaa!!!


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Aug 2018, 16:31
#18
06 Aug 2018, 16:31#18
Stop peeking through my bedroom window, CC.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Aug 2018, 16:33
#19
06 Aug 2018, 16:33#19

Oh wait, you said 10 inch ARMS...

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 16:44
#20
06 Aug 2018, 16:44#20

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaa!!!

Show off ... !!!


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Aug 2018, 16:47
#21
06 Aug 2018, 16:47#21

I already know what Jones did. He worked on the link between 9 and 10. They used one set play they hadn't used prior, against Samoa. Are you calling Jones a liar? 

Here's the problem. The bitter anti-Jake brigade let their vain imaginations create an entirely new narrative, one that saw Jake as helpless and on his knees to the coach he helped get fired, by trouncing his Wallaroos. That's where you have erred Clever Mike. The only other thing he did was give them a little more confidence in what they were doing, because they were using many schemes from Eddie's Brumbies. Source? Os Du Randt. I should also add, that he encouraged Schalk to distribute more. This is Eddie's greatest legacy of Bok rugby. 

However, the anti-Jake brigade, bereft of answers, labour on with their anti-Jake narrative. As I said, where was this great new Jones team before Frans came on? There was no noticeable difference in their warm ups. Prior to Frans coming on, the Boks were on the ropes and looking overwhelmed by Samoa. The great spark of the 2007 World Cup was Frans. Not Eddie. We won the World Cup playing Jake's brand of Bok rugby. Counter attack backed by stout defence and set piece dominance. No more, no less.

@CleanCut: Why are you always angry all the time? Careful you don't have the anger problems of Clever Mike. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 17:07
#22
06 Aug 2018, 17:07#22

Angry? Is that how I come across ... ?

I'm not angry ...

Haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaa!!!

I'm a happy go lucky guy ... honest injun!!


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Aug 2018, 17:10
#23
06 Aug 2018, 17:10#23

Jake White needed help with Coetzee's backline ... he called on Eddie ... and we subsequently won the World Cup.

Jake White should get the credit for calling on Eddie Jones.

Jake White should get the credit for a lot of things.  


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