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So much for Wales

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES327 VIEWS· 01 Dec 2013, 01:34
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Dec 2013, 01:34
#1
01 Dec 2013, 01:34#1

The third best RC team beat the two time Six Nations champs at home. That's all you need to know about NH rugby....a weaker, slower game.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Dec 2013, 01:40
#2
01 Dec 2013, 01:40#2
But we do have England sitting at 3 in the rankings ahead of Oz and lets face it France and Ireland should have beaten the AB's.
There was nothing slow or weak about any of those teams today, great game of rugby
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Dec 2013, 01:44
#3
01 Dec 2013, 01:44#3
Only because they never had a SH tour against one of the top 3.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Dec 2013, 02:02
#4
01 Dec 2013, 02:02#4
 SH will always dominate as we are better, but its close stuff as this tour by the SH sides showed
XT
XtramickClub Pro103 posts
01 Dec 2013, 02:10
#5
01 Dec 2013, 02:10#5
Saffex yeah sure England were ranked 3rd for a while. As of the last week's update the Wallabies are back at 3 though. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Dec 2013, 02:12
#6
01 Dec 2013, 02:12#6
Good we need the SH to keep on top.

The obvious reason we are better is that we dont have foreigners depriving our players of opportunities as you see happen up here.

I am really pissed off seeing an Argentinian lock play for the Stormers next season......it deprives the likes of Ruan Botha from getting top exposure.

In the NH more than 50% of the club sides are made up of foreigners.....its pathetic



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
01 Dec 2013, 02:56
#7
01 Dec 2013, 02:56#7
 England are currently ranked number #4
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Dec 2013, 05:25
#8
01 Dec 2013, 05:25#8
 What a bore.....poetry in slow motion. Barnes was my MOM.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Dec 2013, 11:21
#9
01 Dec 2013, 11:21#9
 We exported Bekker and Quin Roux so some additonal fire power at lock had to be imported. Now Etzebeth is out for at least the first half of the Super 15. 
Wing is a problem for the Stormers and I guess Pat Howard may finfd himself on the wing.
The NH are shooting themsleves in the foot by importing all these foreign players. They will never succeed this way and deservedly so - parasites.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Dec 2013, 11:26
#10
01 Dec 2013, 11:26#10
Hard to explain the success of the Ozzies in NH. Only logical explanation is the fields weren't soggy enough.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Dec 2013, 11:45
#11
01 Dec 2013, 11:45#11

 "Hard to explain the success of the Ozzies in NH"....really?

 

 

The alarm bells should have rung when we witnessed Wales struggling against Tonga and perhaps we gave them too much respect for their performance against the Boks. Wales are ordinary...end of.....and the Ozzies are 2 shits better than ordinary.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Dec 2013, 12:09
#12
01 Dec 2013, 12:09#12
Denny, I was being facetious, lol
We had a thread on here were Moz was saying that the ABs and SH teams would have problems in the NH because of the soft fields.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Dec 2013, 13:06
#13
01 Dec 2013, 13:06#13
 No worries JW...but I guess you enjoyed that bit about the Ozzies being 2 shits better than Wales
ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
02 Dec 2013, 14:39
#14
02 Dec 2013, 14:39#14
  Saffex, English? You are quite the condundrum young squire.

As per the NH? Wales gifted the game to Australia in many ways, they definitely are a lesser side without Roberts. They centre alot of their play around getting momentum through him. Certainly they very nearly beat us a few times when Roberts was available. But it's the passive defending that was the letdown, it allowed Australia to do what they wanted to. The breakdown was a disappointment as well. Make no mistake, the rankings can be deceptive at times. England are better than Australia. NH rugby is by no means weak, but it just seems the belief just isn't there. Wales didn't look like they trusted themselves or each other, the try with Cooper's flick pass showcased this. The Welsh wing jumped in and broke the pattern. We saw this alot when Adi Jacobs played for the Boks, Habana had to wok twice as hard because he never could trust Jacobs to make the hit. Some things for Wales to work on. Australia moving the game away from scrums is another issue. South Africa and New Zealand imposed these areas of play on Australia, they never sat back, but hit Australia hard! Pummeled them at the breakdown, smashed their scrum, beat them with the boot, drive them backwards, sealed off the outside channels and toppled their lineout. In rugby you must impose yourself, Wales failed to do it and lost.
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