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So now Cassiem is our 8

Started by Saffolk 11 REPLIES2,003 VIEWS· 18 Aug 2017, 13:41
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Aug 2017, 13:41
#1
18 Aug 2017, 13:41#1

Lets hope useless Cortzee is not expecting us to believe that the selection of Cassiem at 8 is a merit selection. Apart from the fact that he is a pretty average player, I for one have never seen him play 8.......so all of a sudden he has gone from being surplus to requirements in the French series to starting out of position at 8 for the Boks......the mind boggles.


It does not end there........our loosetrio is a complete mess, in effect we have two 6's in Kolisi and Kriel, with one operating as a 7 and with Cassiem on board we have no grunt amongst our loosies.......this issue is compounded by the fact that we have Mostert at lock, great heart but hardly the most physical lock in the world.


Add Coenie at tighthead, a recent loosehead convert and the retention of Beast at 1 who has been upstaged by some margin by Kitshoff each time.


Does Coetzee really see that as a potentially dominant pack?


I would have selected impressive Wilco Louw at tighthead, started deserving Kitshoff at loosehead, played Steph du Toit, Lood, Willemse, Jenkins or Snyman as Eben's lock partner


My loose trio would have had Kolisi at 6, Mostert at 7 and du Preez at 8. Only reason Jaco Kriel is not starting is because my pack is looking a little pale. However saying that Kolisi has been brilliant and I am a huge fan.


Obviously Marx starts at 2


In the backs we still see the utterly useless Cronje at 9, heaven help us.


Any one of Hougaard, Faf, Reinach, Groom and Schrauder are better options


How the hell does Rhule retain his spot after missing 50% of his tackles in the French series? Combrink should have walked the side with his eyes closed


I'm happy with the rest of the backs, although find it hard to leave Janse v Rensburg out, he should definitely be on the bench.


I see Coetzee is waxing lyrical of Bosch, the lad with plenty of talent, but zero hard edge - the guy is scared of contact.


Coetzee's player management leaves much to be desired, while I am no great fan of Lleyds, yes he has had his moments this last Super series but he gets discarded in total after coming off the bench against the French, while Rhule having been defensively exposed, somehow retains his place - what rugby is Coetzee and co watching?


Coetzee has sold us short in a big way, in particular the pack and at 9 and wing


This side might hang in there against the Argies but will get slaughtered by the AB's

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
18 Aug 2017, 14:10
#2
18 Aug 2017, 14:10#2
I also used to think Ross Cronje was very average but you can't argue with his recent form. Fair selection I reckon.

Looks like Ruan Combrink has given up on a Springbok jersey because he's off to Japan. What a waste!

Uzair Cassiem ahead of either of the Du Preez twins is just a joke.

Will be interesting to see how and when Coetzee uses Curwin Bosch. He's obviously a big fan (as am I) but he will probably have to give him a run tomorrow rather than chuck him into any of the tougher games that follow.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2017, 15:03
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18 Aug 2017, 15:03#3
This is a team without much grunt in the pack.....without much physicality in the back three.....and players who tend to panic under pressure like Jantjies and Kriel. Fortunately we start with the easiest game, the Bargies at home. .. I have to agree about Bosch. So far he has kicked brilliantly, but shown relatively little in general play....he needs to prove himself.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Aug 2017, 15:22
#4
18 Aug 2017, 15:22#4

Kriel and Jantjies have been very good in the tests against the French


Sorry Rooi I am not a fan of Cronje at all - he is the equivalent of having a Morne Steyn at 10 - cant stand that kind of player - they bore me


Bosch has talent but for me lacks the hard edge - he is not a fan of contact and is defensively suspect - but is young, time will tell   

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
18 Aug 2017, 17:44
#5
18 Aug 2017, 17:44#5
 Yep, I think if we were to chose the players in form, the whole boks would look extremely pale. Very few players of colour are putting their hands up
The only worth while players to start or be in the match day 22 for are
KolisiJantjies SkosanAm BoschBongi
That only makes 27%, way below the quota target of 50% 
I do hope that the likes of Nkosi and Senatla can gain form. 
Mohoje needs to up his game because on a good day he deserves his spot
 
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
18 Aug 2017, 17:47
#6
18 Aug 2017, 17:47#6
 Further WTF with Cassiem?!!! Hardly played all year, at best currie cup quality. He hasn't played in 2 years. He played all of his games last year at 7 or 6. 
You have a guy like Phillip v der Walt that doesn't event get a look in. To me he was probably the sharks best loose forward. Jean Luc did really well but made quite a lot of errors, but should get better over the next few seasons. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Aug 2017, 18:47
#7
18 Aug 2017, 18:47#7
 Agreed KC, PvdW was our best 8 x far this season.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
18 Aug 2017, 20:25
#8
18 Aug 2017, 20:25#8
 
Cronje is a much better scrummie than "Two Bounce Pass" HouGat will ever be.

Coetzee was a fool to bring HouGat back into the mix. Not sure how many more times he must make a mess at 9 to be excluded.

At least Coetzee had the sense not to start with him.

Bongi is not a good player at all. He's there because of a promise Coetzee made him ages ago.

Jesse Kriel isn't a center. He still hasn't learnt the basics of a tackle. He in fact isn't a very good rugby player at all. Doesn't deserve his spot in the squad.

Janse van Rensburg should have been selected at 12 ages ago. There is no better 12 in the country.

Serfontein can count his lucky stars we have such an ignorant coach selectiung thye side. Anyone with a lick of sense would have left him out of the squad.




MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2017, 21:00
#9
18 Aug 2017, 21:00#9
Well I pretty much agree with that Turncoat.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Aug 2017, 08:34
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19 Aug 2017, 08:34#10
 Serfontein had some good moments in the French test and also a Super Rugby game and he seems to thrive iof and when stooges like Meyer, Ludeke and are not  around.
My main worry remains the loosie4 combination and the props.   Nyakane cannot scrum to save his life.   That taking 9into account that both Beast are also not the best scrummagers    Mbonambi may be btter if he can throw in line-out balls accurately -something way beyond his capacity.
I am still worried about the halfbacks as well. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Aug 2017, 08:34
#11
19 Aug 2017, 08:34#11
 Serfontein had some good moments in the French test and also a Super Rugby game and he seems to thrive iof and when stooges like Meyer, Ludeke and are not  around.
My main worry remains the loosie4 combination and the props.   Nyakane cannot scrum to save his life.   That taking 9into account that both Beast are also not the best scrummagers    Mbonambi may be btter if he can throw in line-out balls accurately -something way beyond his capacity.
I am still worried about the halfbacks as well. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
19 Aug 2017, 19:09
#12
19 Aug 2017, 19:09#12
He was a solid workhorse this game. Perhaps the best of the 3 Loosies- at least for the full 80 minutes. Kolisi and Kriel were better in the 2nd half. 
All were effective at the breakdown in ball recovery and protection. It was a very light starting back row, and they came through well. 
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