So what was the starting team against Ireland

It had 13 players over 30 years old, 2 players who were 28…..the youngsters in the team. Has any international side ever been older. 

Clearly a massive revamp of our team will be necessary in the next 3 years. We might be starting the next WC with less than 5 players who have played in a WC. Most of the ‘younger’ players in their early thirties are backs….who typically lose pace and don’t survive as long.

We are already  past the point where this can be corrected without some pain….the question is when do we want to take it. Or is the implosion likely to be so bad that it’s better just to play out the string and accept the subsequent plunge.

This has the look of a major pronlem

Definitely inder your hero Meyerin 2024 when Matifeld at 38 was ueles as hell.   

HM’s side which lost to NZ in WC 2015 vs the side Eluckmiss fielded last weekend, almost 9 years later.

6 players over 30 vs 13 for Eluckmiss

3 players under 30/but over 25 vs 2 for Eluckmiss

6 players below 25 vs 0 for Eluckmiss.

Number of players in that same HM team who played against Ireland on Saturday….6.

Now perhaps Clever you can stop lying about HM’s ‘old team’ and focus on the geriatric team Eluckmiss shows no sign of renewing. And thank HM for his gift to Springbok rugby that carried us through two WCs.

The team selected to play Portugal is a joke.

Shocking selection indicating no plans for the future.

I’m saying the youngsters are in many cases oldsters…Pollard was 21 at the RWC in 2015 and a test veteran. Libbok is already 27 with only failure on his resume.

That’s just your usual list packed with guys who are going nowhere like Gelant, the Deysel twins, Moerat and Jenkins.

The joke is a team in which 2 players are under 30.

I counter all that JENKINS nonsense with one name..the Quince. Libbok was awful in the match against Glasgow and in the prior year final….no backbone..

Sure there are some good youngsters amongst the chaff, will Eluckmiss pick them against the ABs?

The point is, some amalgam of youngsters cobbled together hastily are lambs to the slaughter without a game plan they can understand. What the hell do we expect of a new 12….that he be a robot running into the first defender?

Now that we are in this quandary do we have to clarify our prospective style before we know who will fit that style?

By contrast Ireland’s game plan needs no tinkering and new players like Osborne are an immediate fit. Eluckmiss has to have sensed the difference that intelligent coaching has made. How a player like O’Mahony could be set aside despite being captain. And youngsters could immediately make team contributions vs the individual brilliance of Sacha.

The genius has his hands full. 

There's also Rassie's favoritism to contend with besides his poor selections. But what's happened to the dumb idea of throwing newbies into the deep end as he did in that infamous test against Wales last year and then adding justification for doing so after the unsurprising loss.

Ja, I have to agree there's a touch of Biden about him 

Select the used by date's to play the AB's and we will lose but not only that, we'll also lose the opportunity to give the new brigade exposure and experience. And I tell you what if we play Z grade Oz with the oldies and lose or struggle to win then we'll hit zero gain back to the start.

I'm not getting my hopes up.

Too late, the Irish have made their point….Eluckmiss knows this, even if you don’t.