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Some alarming signs for the Boks

Started by Mozart6 REPLIES159 VIEWS· 11 May 2014, 02:50
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 May 2014, 02:50
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11 May 2014, 02:50#1

This was a sobering weekend. Most concerning was watching a Brumbies pack, with Alexander at tighthead out scrumming the Sharks. Our tight five play has slumped with all the injuries. Here are a few random observations on our players: 


Those thinking Mvovo is a cinch for the Boks need to think again...as the pressure mounted, he became less effective. Taute by contrast raised his stakes by some good close quarter running, but the lack of pace and pop gun boot will ultimately discount him.


On the wings de Allende had some good moments....but again, measured against Basson he may be 5 metres too slow for test wing duty.


Sadie and especially Jordaan had tough outings at centre. Jordaan is too small  in my view. JJ was irrelevant...again. Best centres were de Jongh and Serfontein. De Jongh is always dangerous in space....and Steppie is fine if you like your centres as sort of de Wet Barrie clones sans the crash tackling.


At flyhalf Pollard is the one positive. Frans finally had a meaningful game in general play...but his boot was horrible. Goosen is playing a very remote passing role and his tackling remains poor. Coleman was very weak in his clearances nd predictably Jantjies missed the winning kick...why did Ackerman sub Boshoff?


At scrummie Reinach was pretty ineffective. In fact apart from FAF no scrummie showed much. There is a lot of Hougaard hype, and he certainly is a little crisper...but do we want another Bools kicker. He still hasn't made a meaningful scrummie break, the part that seemed guaranteed.


At prop Jannie and the Beast were worked. Bismarck is looking less effective....what price  Strauss?


The Bools locks were good, but the rest were pretty ordinary.


I thought Schalk and Vermeulen had effective  games in adverese circumstances.But apart from some good work by the Lions loosies, that was about it. Kankan was awful. Deysel, great when the Sharks are dominating physically, was emphatically put back in his box. And who would pick Du Plessis ahead of Schalk....nobody who values finesse.



In the captaincy stakes Bismarck's ambitions took a hit today. He was lucky to escape a card when he lost it.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
11 May 2014, 03:54
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11 May 2014, 03:54#2
When did Bismarck lose it? Was it when the Brumbies did committed a cynical foul on their try line and didn't get a yellow card? If not then I think I may of missed it. I think it's better for SA that he isn't captain so he doesn't reserve himself whatsoever. 
Schalk, Vermeulen and Brussow were the best loosies of today. Du Plessis is promising and is one for the future. 
Strauss has forgotten how to pass.Coenie got absolutely ruined in the scrums, but in general play he was immense. Le Roux didn't manage to inject himself in the game, kind of worries me that we rely on him so heavily. Sadie was also pretty ineffective and ran around like a headless chicken at times. 
Goosen is losing his mojo, the moment towards the end when he hurt himself by taking a penalty kick the camera zoomed on his face. He looked fed up as he attempted to stretch. He doesn't attack the gainline in fear of getting injured. Naka is not a good man manager, Goosen needs to leave the Cheetahs.
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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
11 May 2014, 04:19
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11 May 2014, 04:19#3
The more I watch the Sharks/Bok teams the more I have to wonder the following:
How the heck does "Clueless Jannie du Plessis" retain his position in both the Sharks and Bok squads. He is as thick as a Coronation brick. Gives away penalties at crucial stages of every game and then still argues the point when he is clearly guilty.Than God I completed my military service before he received his medical degree.
Dumb-arse in a rugby jersey!  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 May 2014, 08:22
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11 May 2014, 08:22#4
Jannie retains his place  in the Bok team because his potential replacements like Coenie and Malherbe haven't shown the ability to scrum consistently against the better teams. It's a long time since the Boks have had a top 3 tighthead. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2014, 08:37
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11 May 2014, 08:37#5
 Jannie has the ability to give away more penalties in scrumming than any other tight head.   There is nothing wring with the scrumming of Malherbe and Van der Merwe - Coenie is still a question mark.  S ince hiss return from injury his scrumming was definitely not up to standard.    
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2014, 08:55
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11 May 2014, 08:55#6
 Mozart
You missed the most alarming signs.   You advocate Steyn as Springbok flyhalf - if a player has lost it completely this year  - it is Steyn either at flyhalf or at center.   He is alarmingly poor in both positions gas the speed of a slow lock forward.
Matfield did not call the line outs to himself this game - most went to Willemse.  Reason - he was afraid to be outjumped by a rookie loosie who the Stormers use as a 5.   In the line outs Matfield was in fact out-jumped in one of the four line outs he called for himself.  He did a lot of tackles - but for the rest his tight five play was poor.  To weak for the present rugby scenario.
De Allende is a center - not a wing.   He should play at center where he is more effective.  Both the Stormers tries came when he was involved in the initial stages of the moves concerned = a critical element in those attacks in fact.

    
  
  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2014, 16:04
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11 May 2014, 16:04#7
 Coenie is a lossehead and has alays been one. Two best tightheads are Malherbe and Marcell van der merwe. Matfield is a passenger why they play him beats me.Willemse is growing in stature - immensely strong.
Provided we are not blown out of the water by injuries/bent refs we should have a fine 4 nations.
Jordaan must play 13.
JJ is a wing.
Agree re Strauss he always goes to ground. Off loading skills have generally improved recently and Strauss needs to get his act together as otherwise he is a very good player.
Goosen like Taute is finding his way back. He is right to take care and get his confidence back. They are work in progress.
Meyer also needs to strike the right balance between attack and defence and it is vital he gets his loose trio adapted accordingly. One awaits his squad selections with interest. Will a flair player like Whitely get a look in?  












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