Some bad news for Mozart

There is no fact that Mozart dislikes some  SA sportsmen and near to top of his list are Chad le Clos and Quinton de Kock.
He would try and put a negative image on it - but Le Clos broke the 100 meter butterfly short course record by,36 of a second and it now stands at 48,08 putting a WR time of under 48 seconds a possibility,  
Good guy that one - his Olympic campaign was severely impacted upon when it came to light that both his parents are suffering from cancer and under treatment.   When he won the 200  meter butterfly race on Tuesday  - he went to his parents and hang his gold medal around the neck of his mother and when he picked up the medal he was tearful as well when the national anthem was played.  

You have major issues. You are one sick plonker, my friend. 
Having lost a father to cancer, I can understand what Le Clos - who has known about his parents' cancer since before the 2016 Olympics, by the way - is going through . You, though, have only picked up on it now and has seen it as an ideal opportunity to have a go at Mozart again. Shame on you.

 Ceradunce
Are you sick in your deluded mind?   I knew about Le Clos parents cancer problems ages ago and understood perfectly what he went through.
By the way you missed the thread in which Mozart attacked Le Clos viciously and I was just reminding him of the sickness of his attack.    

 What about your dislike of Fourie Du Preez and Graeme Smith? Your slagging off of one of the greatest SA scrummies and perhaps the world after one game at Twickers which you watched is still fresh in my memory. I don't remember the game but I remember the slagging off you delivered on another forum. And....from thereon in you had nothing decent to say about him.  
Cleanup your act....it stinks!

Mike, do you realise that you are obsessed with Mozart? No matter who starts a thread, and no matter what the thread is about, you will, with near certainty, address or refer to Moz in any post you type. 
I am not just saying this because I feel like picking on you, go and read just about any post of yours, regardless of the topic, and you will somehow bring Moz into it. If you find the man and his opinions so utterly repulsive, ignore him. Why give him endless attention?   

 Denny
The test I wrote about was in 2004 and the absence of Du Preez from receiving a ball from a breakdown caused a turnover and an English try,   I later thought that Du Preez did well in the 2007 WC - but I think his prime years was from 2007 to 2011 - after his return to test rugby he was so many times absent through injury he never really played top class rugby subsequently.   For example before the WC last year he was absent for nearly a year from playing any rugby and his performance in the WC was at best average.
I have pointed out the performance issue without any attack on the player as a person.
In the case of Graeme Smith there was very good reasons from a performance perspective for him to be dropped from the Proteas team.   I cannot remember any instance where I made personal attacks on him - all I did was to point out the performance deficiencies that got worse as time went on.   My comments centered around the performance - nothing else.
In the case of Mozart - his attacks on Le Clos bordered on character assassination and was highly questionable and unethical - the same with other sportsmen he dislikes.   I am not trying to run anybody down the way Mozart does.   The only possible exception is Frans Steyn and Willem Alberts - but my criticism is basically on performance issues and the reason for those deficiencies are tied up in the fact that they have grown so Fat that it affected their performances.    

clevermike

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December 09, 2016, 13:42:18

I am not trying to run anybody down the way Mozart does.   The only possible exception is Frans Steyn and Willem Alberts - but my criticism is basically on performance issues and the reason for those deficiencies are tied up in the fact that they have grown so Fat that it affected their performances.    

Are you still carrying on about these players

Years ago you were on about these players, and still here you are carrying on

Pathetic don't you think

 

bluebok

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December 09, 2016, 13:14:48

Mike, do you realise that you are obsessed with Mozart? No matter who starts a thread, and no matter what the thread is about, you will, with near certainty, address or refer to Moz in any post you type. 

I am not just saying this because I feel like picking on you, go and read just about any post of yours, regardless of the topic, and you will somehow bring Moz into it. If you find the man and his opinions so utterly repulsive, ignore him. Why give him endless attention?  

 

Spot on with that assessment Blue..... absolutely spot on

 Hmmm terrible stuff I said about Chad like the posting bellow? ................... Great swim by Chad le Clos in the 200 metres.... August 09, 2016, 04:18:04 ....ultimately the giant Chinese swimmer caught him before the line, but Chad had an incredible start. A well deserved Silver. ...................... I did criticize him for his shadow boxing episode aimed at a bemused Michael Phelps, part of a long string of taunts he has directed at Phelps, who almost every time has responded by beating him. In the States Le Clos is remembered as a bit of a psycho freak because of this....and not as the great swimmer he undoubtedly is, which is a shame.

 If you find the man and his opinions so utterly repulsive, ignore him. Why give him endless attention?
Do you have a response ?

 The story started in the media in the US and swallowed lock stock and barrel by Mozart.  
By the way an interesting bit of data insofar as short course swimming is concerned.   Phelps fastest times in the 100 meters butterfly was in 2009 when he clocked 50.46 in Manchester in 2009.    The time clocked for the same distance by Le Clos last night was 48.04.   In the 200 meter butterfly his best result was 1;52.7 in Melbourne in 2003.   Le Clos best effort was 1,48.26 in Singapore in 2014.   With those times Phelps  would not have been on the podium in both races at present.  
Phelps was no doubt a swimming sensation - but he was not as effective in short course swimming (25 meter pool) as he was in the 50 meter pool,    

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BemrQOzMVWo I suppose the media imagined that embarrassing incident?

 That reference is not available and I cannot recollect what all of it was about.   You were the only one to start a thread on it and on evaluation at the time it came from US sources and who was involved - was it Le Clos father?   If so - why attack Chad le Clos?


  

The reference is available....cut and paste it into your browser, then tell me how the media imagined that.

 I have tried top cut and paste that reference a couple of times and the message is it is not available.    However, the public fact is that Le Clos made a statement that he has learned something beautiful about life and that is to be humble.   That has been proven time and again and the same cannot be said about Phelps.
Your allegations is consequently hard to swallow. 

 Okay puzzling.....then simply look up Le Clos on Youtube. In the first few entries you will see Le Clos taunts Phelps. Click on that and tell me that isn't unattractive.

 The BS was started by Phelps in the US Media - not by Le Clos - it never was ever mentioned in any SA Media.    If L e Clos started it it would have been in the SA Media first.
Incidentally ask T rump about the US media reporting. 

 Oh stop with BS. Nobody thinks Phelps is a nice human being. But he is the best swimmer in Olympic history. The man is a phenomenon. And Le Clos' pathetic shadow boxing before the race right in front of Phelps was embarrasing....not funny, not clever. Phelps took him apart and he deserved it.

Mozart
WE went through this story years ago when it became clear that the BS was started by Phelps - nothing to do with his history as the greatest swimmer ever, but his attacks on any competing swimmer was odious.
However, as is normal with you the attack has to be on the younger athlete and you took the BS to this site after watching what was apparently all over the US media.
Le Clos has a huge reputation in the swimming fraternity world wide as a very nice person and the question is - why should he start BS like that in the US media and not a word of it locally?   The further question is why should he get involved when he always said that Phelps was his hero as a swimmer  and the latter even visited him in SA after 2012?  
You must yet learn that the US media is a problem and I refer you to what T rump found out about them.    So stick with their propaganda stories and remain the ignorant clown you are.     

 This from the South African:

"So apparently, Michael Phelps threw a little shade at Chad le Clos ahead of the Men’s 200m butterfly on Monday.

But le Clos started it by, perhaps deliberately, shadow boxing in front of Phelps in the pre-race room."

Schplott. So much for it being the American media teehee.

Rugby experts on Planet Rugby select CJ Stander as part of the team of the week. Our good mate Moz does not rate this player, could one of our leading "experts" be wrong?

 There is a word for your style in RSA JW it's called "soeking".....look it up. Stampkar is dumb muscle....not particularly strong, certainly not fast, his stats totally beli e the hype. The Irish chaps have decided Stampkar is a great discovery of theirs....and the hype machine spins on. I think Ireland are more effective when he is serving a red card or otherwise off the park.

 Mozart
When did that so-called shadow boxing happened?   Whixh race was it?   I do not think they ever raced each other since 2012 and before the Olympic Games this year - so when did the famous incident happened? 
Standard BS picked up by Mozart to shame a sportsman.   That story came from where - there is no newspaper by the name The South African?   It could have been something weird - but that story is just another Mozart make-up of rubbish he specialize in - the weird BSter at work.
  

 Read, note the dates and apologize plank: By Chris Chase Aug 9, 2016 at 9:34p ET He's still got it. Oh, does he ever. Swimming in his most anticipated head-to-head Olympic matchup since the "race of the century" in Athens, 31-year-old Michael Phelps was the resounding winner of his 200m butterfly rematch with Chad Le Clos, the cocky, shadowboxing South African who stunned Phelps in London and spent the next four years reminding people about it. It was Phelps' 20th gold medal (a total he shouldn't stay stuck on for long - the Americans are heavily favored to win the 4x200m freestyle relay that'll start less than an hour after his win), his 24th overall and what has to be one of the sweetest given that it was the first time he directly avenged a silver medal against the man who'd sent him down the podium. Le Clos, for all that bluster, didn't even medal, finishing in fourth.

 Mozart
That was in the Olympic Games months after your attack on Le Clos - so lets ace it you were as per normal lying in your orginial post on the issue and caught out lying again.
Then lest get to the Olympic Games - according to you Le Clos was not really affected by the cancer problems of both his father and mother which surfaced in June - and according to you that not being the reason for his under-performance.
However, what you wrote on Le Clos is totally Mozart - an attack on anybody some other posters favour and an attack based on media propaganda stories in the US.
Cringe as per normal and get for a change a smell of the BS you specializes in.          

 Ou CleverZunk, accusing others of lying is like Lance Armstrong accusing other sports personalities of doping....

 Mike I am glad you are pointing out the extreme bias of the globalist owned MSM in the USA.
You have to be extremely gullible and completely brain washed to believe their NWO spin. It is amazing how some folk have been duped into believing open borders and rotten trade deals are in their interest. Its all FAKE news.
As for the minor differences between Dr Moz and Mike long may they continue as it is clear that these sapts make their day! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I have to conclude in saying all morons sucking up fake news and repeating it should just know they are making complete twits of themselves. How many times do you want to be proved WRONG. Bwahahahahahahahhaha its hi larious!

So what are you saying HasBeen the tape Truth posted is doctored?

 Look BSter - you attacked Le Clos long before the  OG and now you used what happened at the WC as support for your earlier unsubstantiated BS.   Mozart please accept that you lie previously and then try and use an incident that happened much later to support your original BS.  

 Tro oth Fairy
Do you call loosening up exercises as shadow boxing - what a load of utter BS.   Even then I would not have blamed Le Clos because of the grossly unpleasant comments by Phelps earlier that Mozart used to attack Le Clos on.
You are both great BSters so why do you insist to make fools of yourself in public - maybe too stupid to realize what BSters you are.     

 Mike, I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart. You provide endless entertainment on a daily basis. You are right up there with the best stand-up comedians.
On a more serious note. Have you ever been involved in any form of competitive swimming..... ever? If you have, you would have known that you use stretching exercises to warm up (or to use your term "loosening up exercises") for swimming. Not freaking shadow boxing.

It's perfectly obvious Tokkie is just a spectator watching the young boys....and Chad is just his taste. Could be another one of his seuntjie avatars. Seventy year old bachelor aggressively defending his seuntjies....touching really.

 Mozart
The funny one without any taste and a great admirer about the following:   The TRUTH  is so special -  it must not be abused by frequent use.   So he is not abusing the truth and keep to constant lies.   Keep it up - we know when you ever speak the truth it will cause a tsunami  on this site. 

As the Gordon Gekko character famously said....."Stop lying about me, and I will stop telling the truth about you" I'll make you the same offer Tok....or we can just go on as we are, with you humiliating yourself every day. Either way...I don't care.

 Mozart
It does not help - for what you regard as truth is far removed from reality.   Anything you agree with is in your mind the truth - while in fact most of it is based not on the truth - but on personal prejudice.
That lead you to invent what you regard as truths - but in fat has been completely falsified.
So it really is no use - you regard yourself as above criticism and act as if you are the Board Bully - so the only one really disgracing himself is you.   That happens when your statements are in fact proven to be distant from the truth - as happened in this case.   Lets sum up - you attacked Le Clos months before the Olympic  Games - now you use some issue you allege happened at the OG to justify your earlier attack.   That would never stand up to scrutiny.       
      

 clevermike
 
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December 14, 2016, 12:24:37

So it really is no use - you regard yourself as above criticism and act as if you are the Board Bully - so the only one really disgracing himself is you.   
Board bully huhh?
clevermike
 
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December 12, 2016, 19:06:30

However, you have fled from SA and knows absolutely nothing about the situation in the country at present.   Stay away Doos - we do not need you here.  

 The above was written in losing my temper because you left SA and pretends to know the present scenario in the country.   Your opinions is worthless - but I believe you have the right to write what you please - irrespective of how ignorant - on this site.  

 So, you are p!ssed off because I left SA? What a pompous asre hole you are.

 Hell - the idiot can' t read - I am pissed off because you have no idea about the present situation in SA and not that you left.   Having you out of the country is a blessing in disguise anyway.