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Some thoughts as to where the Boks are

Started by Beeno110 REPLIES163 VIEWS· 10 Jun 2014, 22:14
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:14
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10 Jun 2014, 22:14#1

BY Gavin Rich ex Supersport

The greater structure that they brought to their game in the second half showed the way forward for the Springboks in the international season’s opening match against the World XV, but the lack of consistent, sustained energy from the pack must surely be a concern for coach Heyneke Meyer.

A lot was made before the Newlands match about the age factor and the big workload some of the Boks, particularly in the forwards, have carried this season for their franchises in Vodacom Super Rugby. In the end the members of the so-called old boys club didn’t do badly, with Bakkies Botha picking up the man of the match award after showing up well in the early stages of the game.

The veteran is certain to continue in the No4 jersey this weekend in the first test against Wales, as Flip van der Merwe, the alternative in his position, has been given special leave of absence to attend his brother’s wedding.

Lodewyk de Jager should be added to the match day squad and his contribution from the bench should be watched with interest as there surely isn’t the same problem with depth at 4 lock that there is at 5, and South Africa look well equipped there.

But while Botha made a contribution and Victor Matfield captained the side well in his comeback test, you wouldn’t have left Newlands thinking to yourself that Botha and Matfield were better than their direct opponents Alistair Hargreaves and Juandre Kruger, neither of whom are currently test players (PLEASE NOTE ALL MATFILED GROUPIES). Although the Boks did shut the World XV out of the game when they got their driving right in the second half, it wasn’t a sustained performance from the pack and there appeared to be a distinct lack of energy at times.

This may well have more to do with the amount of rugby some of the players have played recently than age, and although Duane Vermeulen had a big game, as he did in a Super Rugby match the previous week in Durban, the fact that five members of the starting pack have gone into the June series having played every Super Rugby game they have been available for so far this season could be problematic.(WHERE IS THE CENTRAL CONTRACTING SYSTEM)

Of the SANZAR teams that started their international seasons this past weekend, it was only the Wallabies who made a rousing start. The All Blacks also looked well short of a gallop at times in their match against England.(WATCH OUT FOR THE wOBBLIES)

The scrumming is an obvious area that needs to be fixed up, and while Meyer was happy with the lineouts, that may be more of an indication of what he feared from the World XV than anything else. The Boks were comfortable on their own ball, but then the World XV weren’t troubled on their throw in either. It was because they had ball to play with that the scratch team was able to stay in the contest much longer than most would have anticipated.

Most of all though the Boks need to tighten up, and they did that after halftime, which was when they delivered the coup de grace against a World XV that was game and gutsy until the end and probably didn’t deserve to lose by as big a margin as they did. The second 40 minutes was probably always going to be when the Boks would start finding the momentum they intend to take into Saturday’s fixture at Growthpoint Kings Park.

However, they are going to have to start with far more energy and purpose against Wales or it could be another struggle for them. Hopefully, from a South African viewpoint, the rusty edges that led to looseness and too much attempt to play in their own half in the first part of the Cape Town game have now been shaken off, and in that sense the Boks can be thankful that this game was organised.

Had they started off with the same lethargy and disco-ordination against an international team that has played together they might have been in more trouble than they were this past Saturday, and the World XV could easily have been 14-3 up after a quarter of an hour had a kick into the ingoal area for Hosea Gear held up just a little.

That said, the World XV did play with surprising congruity for a side that had only just come together during the week, and coach Nick Mallett’s decision to go for established combinations in some key areas paid off for him.(VERY SMART COACH MALLET)

“It was a pity about the last two tries that the Boks scored towards the end because I don’t think that the final scoreline reflected the effort put in by the forwards in this game,” said Mallett afterwards.

Mallett said the way the Boks had finished would be good for them and that the South Africans would feel that the match had served a useful purpose.

Certainly the last two tries did show that the Boks retain their ability to strike from broken play, something that developed strongly last season, and they were sharp and impressive in the build-up to the first try, which was scored by Bryan Habana after Gear had made a mistake in trying to field a kick and James O’Connor had been turned over, with JP Pietersen’s pass between his legs setting up the score.

But overall the Boks weren’t clinical enough to justify any euphoria, and there were several points of their game that appear to require work, although none of it can be completely unexpected given that this was the first time they played together this year and some of the players have been played into the ground in Super Rugby.

If the test against Wales shows up the same shortcomings and the Boks continue to produce soft moments and play loosely, that is when it will be time for concern.

Well said Gavin good sensible article to help Sharkbok and Moz get some perspective!




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:24
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10 Jun 2014, 22:24#2
This from the guy who thought Luke Watson was the answer...does anybody still care what he thinks. He was pro Sykes, pro Grant....anti Jake. Was he right about anything?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:38
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10 Jun 2014, 22:38#3

So I'll tell you where the Boks are.

 

We have an excellent fullback in Willie. We are also very well set at wing....I thought Hendricks had a fine game on Saturday and Habana is still the best.

 

At centre having lost Jean, de Allende and Frans we are now struggling. Serfontein and JJ are bog ordinary and JP is a question mark. 

 

Things are worse at flyhalf. With the departure of Frans we have no flyhalf who can attack the gameline. Goosen will struggle if the game is tight. The rest, Lambie, Morne, Boshoff are pure kickers.

 

Scrumhalf is fine with Pienaar and du Preez.

 

At prop we have one player...the Beast....and a lot of pretenders. Jannie wont last through the RWC.

 

Hooker is fine.

 

At lock we have an ab undance. I expect us to settle on Eben and Bakkies or Flip Flop with Matfield coming on for the last 30 minutes.

 

The test class loosies include Alberts, Vermeulen who is our best loosie now, Louw and Schalk for the last 30 minutes. It's a pity about Arno Botha. The rest....Coetzee, Brussouw, Lappies and all the Bools bruisers are not test class.

 

Major concerns are at 13, 10, 3.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:39
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10 Jun 2014, 22:39#4
 He is definitely right about central contracting and Boks not coming first. He is absurd re Jake!! Quite vindictive actually . 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:51
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10 Jun 2014, 22:51#5
 Why can't you guys see that Jake is a self serving prick with a big mouth. A good coach but an arshole. Has been since  being Mallett's analyst or something. Caused trouble back then and tends to put his foot in his mouth way too often... running for cover 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:59
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10 Jun 2014, 22:59#6
Correction....a talented, self serving prick. But here's the tell, he has the loyalty of his players and real pricks rarely accomplish that over time. The real prick in the plot is the staff man, Mallett.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2014, 23:45
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10 Jun 2014, 23:45#7
 Agree on Mallet as  well, although some of the players he coached at Valsbaai still speak highly of him. Birds of a feather methinks. 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
10 Jun 2014, 23:57
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10 Jun 2014, 23:57#8
 Brussow not test class, that's a laugh.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2014, 00:30
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11 Jun 2014, 00:30#9
 No it's unfortunate, not a laugh. A full hearted player, who sees the field, but his body is simply inadequate at test level. At the last RWC he was dominated by Warburton and then run over and despatched by Pocock. HM has been clear from the start we can't make that kind of concession. And he is right, just asJW was right about Watson.
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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
11 Jun 2014, 02:04
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11 Jun 2014, 02:04#10
 Folks with the squad the HM has now I for one do not consider the Boks a shoe-in for the next WC.
I fear that NZ, OZ and the Poms are ahead of the Old Boks.
Hope I am wrong but we will see.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2014, 06:19
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11 Jun 2014, 06:19#11
 Mozart sticks with the geriatrics.  Lets evaluate his comments.  We are thin in a number of positions.  Francois Steyn was never even a remote answer to 10 - he was not a player who was consistently good enough in that position - playing well for 10 minutes and then going into decline.   He is and never was a top flyhalf and did not see himself as a flyhalf,  Morne s in serious decline - but there are ample players in that position - players like Goosen, Lambie and ultimately Pollard.  
At loose forward we have two world class loosies in evidence - Vermeulen and Louw - but there is a problem with the third one.  Slow and really limited and useless in most facets of play Alberts is not an international loosie and he would not make the grade in that position in any country - bar SA.   Burger is unlikely to last through to the WC - he is the best 7 we have, but his constant injuries is a major problem.  We have lots of loosies that would make any international team - but the needle is stuck at present on Alberts, limited journeyman bringing nothing of real value to the Springboks.   Players like Coetzee, Arno Botha and Labuschagne are good enough to produce the goods.  So no real problem in this case either.       
There is no way that Botha and Matfield should even be mentioned in the list of locks to represent SA.  Both will prove in the Welsh tests and the CR that they are way past it.   We are particularly fortunate to have a large number of good locks available - so we can replace those two with the greatest of ease,
We have no problem to find a replacement for Jannie du Plessis either,   There are more than enough good props to take care of that position as well.
Mozart is an admirer of players over 30 - nobody younger than that - other than Francois Steyn, Le Roux and Etzebeth - is according to him any good.  He invents reasons for deficiencies like it is unbelievable and come up with real mythical issues to rubbish younger players.     
The only real problem positions are 13 and 9 and the 9 position is easily solvable.  The  main problem remains 13 - where we are in trouble because of Meyer's own ideas about who could or could not play at 13.        


            
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