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Sonny Bill given special exemption by NZRU; NZ Herald

Started by Just_win19 REPLIES313 VIEWS· 25 Aug 2014, 09:43
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Aug 2014, 09:43
#1
25 Aug 2014, 09:43#1

Sonny Bill Williams will be able to go on the All Blacks end of year tour without having played any ITM Cup rugby.

Williams has signed with Counties-Manukau for the provincial competition, but the New Zealand Rugby Union has confirmed he won't have to take the field to make the All Blacks squad.

If the Roosters make the NRL grand final, it's highly unlikely he will play for Counties as their last round robin game is four days after the league season.

NZRU CEO Steve Tew said today if the coaching staff want him in the squad he can play.

According to Tew the board have given the All Blacks coaches the discretion to bend the rules and take Sonny Bill.

After announcing the signing of Williams in June, Steelers coach Tana Umaga said he was rapt to be reunited with Williams, after coaching the league convert at French club Toulon for two seasons from 2008-2010.

"Sonny is an outstanding man, whose work ethic, ability and motivation are exceptional. He will be a great role model to our younger players and an inspiration to the young people of South Auckland."

Meanwhile, Tew also said Japan and Singapore's proposal for their Super Rugby inclusion has been received, but the early submission is slightly unsatisfactory.


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Aug 2014, 09:45
#2
25 Aug 2014, 09:45#2
 This ruling will get a few cluckers clucking, lol
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Aug 2014, 13:24
#3
25 Aug 2014, 13:24#3
"This ruling will get a few cluckers clucking . . ."

Don't think anyone will be too surprised by this. This is not the first time the NZRU have applied one rule for Sunni Bill and another rule for everyone else.

Sunni Bill is undoubtedly a very good player but I'm not sure he's so much better than the likes of Nonu and Crotty that the NZRU should be prostituting themselves and bending rules for him.
AW
Awesome1Rookie81 posts
25 Aug 2014, 14:22
#4
25 Aug 2014, 14:22#4

 With Nonu and Crotty currently injured it's all about adding depth in that inside centre spot should we be in the same situation next year injury wise. South Africans justifiably right to be as worried as Rooinek. Obviously the thought of a rampaging SBW poses problems for opposition backlines. Especially considering his awesome ability to break the line, tie up more than one defender in the process and still offload in the tackle .

Although there is no guarantee SBW will even make the EOYT as he has some tough games in NRL finals football ahead. He could easily get injured in the next few weeks.

But an Awesome centre option for the ABs 201 5 RWC campaign.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
25 Aug 2014, 14:25
#5
25 Aug 2014, 14:25#5
 As its only an internal matter for the NZRFU  it aint but a thang ! Good to see SBW back in the mix .Awesome1  are you related to "Awesome0 "                                  '
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
26 Aug 2014, 03:42
#6
26 Aug 2014, 03:42#6
No what it is, is a flagrant abuse of the rules yet again. 

But hey, that's what you guys do, isn't it ? 

There is a word for it....... 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Aug 2014, 07:39
#7
26 Aug 2014, 07:39#7
 What are you on about ? Its an NZRU rule ,it has zero to do with anyone else .Or do we get to interfere in your mobs internal politics ?Do we have a say in who can or cant play for your team based on a ruling created by and applicable only to the English team  ?
GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 14:55
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26 Aug 2014, 14:55#8
 he'll do a job for you but only in the short term. crotty was awesome, cant say ive ever seen sony play like that for them and nonu is still #1
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2014, 17:31
#9
26 Aug 2014, 17:31#9

Crotty had a great half of rugby in the last test. He showed a full range of rugby skills & fit right as though he had played in the ABs every week.

 

SBW offers something very different. They are both good defensively but SBW has natural gifts & his ability to off-load to players & get them open space makes him a player all players want to run off. He can change the whole complexion of a game in a blink of an eye.  We will have to see if he can fit back into the Union game again.

 

The great thing is we need all our players & we have some great ones to choose from. Injuries are a big factor, then there is the fact that the RWC is a tournament & you need depth.

 

So we need him back, we are glad he is returning but we will see how he fits in.

CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
27 Aug 2014, 04:47
#10
27 Aug 2014, 04:47#10
 Like others have said. Nothing to do with anyone else but the NZRU. Good to see him back to the real Rugby game.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
30 Aug 2014, 07:37
#11
30 Aug 2014, 07:37#11
 The Sonny Bill Williams story is essentially this: H umble Samoan boy makes good in NRL and signs a multi-million dollar four-year contract with the Bulldogs.

When he doesn't feel the Bulldogs are listening to him or treating him right, he walks out and goes to pay rugby for Toulon (taking a massive pay cut). He also had to buy his way out of the Bulldogs contract for several hundred thousand dollars.

He starts to play good rugby and Toulon want to keep him, offering him a massive multi-million dollar deal to stay. However he leaves to play rugby in New Zealand, his goal to make the All Blacks (another massive pay cut).

While still in France he does a handshake deal with the CEO of the Roosters, saying he will play for them in the NRL once his restraint of trade with the Bulldogs ends.


He makes the All Blacks on merit and plays a bit part at the 2011 World Cup. The following year he finally comes into his own as a rugby player, becoming the starting second five-eighth for the All Blacks. He also helps the previously inconsistent Chiefs win their first Super rugby title.

At the end of this year he honours his handshake deal with the Roosters and returns to play for them in the NRL.  Their roster is almost full, so to fit under the salary cap he has to take the lowest paid position on the roster - another massive pay cut.  On the way he helps the bank balance by playing a few games in Japan for big money.

Somehow, despite all these massive pay-cuts, he earns the nickname Money-Bill Williams - perhaps the most undeserved moniker in the history of nicknames.

SBW is still the same humble Samoan boy who left New Zealand and remains devoted to his family, many of whom live with him in Sydney. He shuns the limelight. 

It's no coincidence that his work ethic and commitment to his teams led to his first seasons at the Chiefs and the Roosters ending in titles.  Neither of these teams were rated as title hopefuls until he arrived and his influence rubbed off on other players, all of whom credit him with the change in their attitudes.

Now he's coming back to New Zealand rugby and I could not be happier. This once-in-a-generation player with a huge work ethic and ability to raise the standard of players around him, can only be good for the All Blacks and every other team he plays for.

If exceptions should be made for anyone, they should be made for SBW.  His poor decisions in the past are behind him and he could be the difference between the All Blacks winning or losing at next year's world cup.  His ability to draw players and offload could also be the difference in winning gold at the Rio Olympics.

Forget bringing back Buck, bring back Sonny Bill... and soon.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2014, 07:48
#12
30 Aug 2014, 07:48#12
It remains NZ's business how they select their players ....... ffs we fly in players from all over & some of em are available for this but not for that .................

SBW donated $100000 to Christchurch after the quake ( from his boxing payday ) .
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
30 Aug 2014, 10:09
#13
30 Aug 2014, 10:09#13
Don't be so sensitive Cloudy, we all like you, some of us a little more, like Beano or maybe it's the cooking and that Kiwi fella who appears to be a secret agent in Poland...Sunni Bill another story

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Aug 2014, 13:39
#14
30 Aug 2014, 13:39#14
 I am going to watch SBW play now (Roosters vs. Melbourne Storm). Rugby League but we will get to check out one of our backup ABs, lol Great to have depth in your side
Link to game
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2014, 13:59
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30 Aug 2014, 13:59#15
 He is a humble Samoan boy hacked waaaugh informs us. Well like I said re the fekitoe ou thread. Samoans are servants of nz and Oz rugby and will never amount to more than that. They are destined to serve their colonial rubgy masters Oz and nz 
Ou mcaaaw certainly does his talking on the field Cloudy - a bigger motor mouth you seldon will find!   Pity he doesnt play some rugby! 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Aug 2014, 14:03
#16
30 Aug 2014, 14:03#16
Beeno: the "lunacy index" for your post was only 2 as indicated by the number of these poor weeee chaps:
You do know SBW was born & breed Kiwi don't ya, lol Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant & rave
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2014, 14:10
#17
30 Aug 2014, 14:10#17
Well take it up with hacked waaagh Jw he informed us suny boy  is a samoan boy.I would have supposed hacked waaugh knew what he was talking about. You cant expect me to know where every kiwi was born JW. BwahahahahahaKbbs getting themselves in a tangle again. Sort it out amongst yourselves boys! 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2014, 14:22
#18
30 Aug 2014, 14:22#18
 Prejudices. because I took ou hacked waaugh to be correct. Hacked waaugh will be mortified Cloudy!!!!
hacked I assure you i will continue to consider your views in an unprejudiced manner. never fear!
Cloudy that Irish bit shines through hahahahahahahahahhaha. The Welsh bit explains the strong  voice and the Moari bit the sunny disposition. (Excluding poooie of course!)


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Aug 2014, 14:30
#19
30 Aug 2014, 14:30#19
 Ha ha Beeno, you are focusing on Hakwa rather than the fact that your argument is unsubstantiated. Clever move but such tactics by the sabbs do not go undetected
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
30 Aug 2014, 17:37
#20
30 Aug 2014, 17:37#20
 Samoans are everywhere Beanhead - Samoans rule ok - CHEEHOOO (or at least the rest of us make them think they are)
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