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Sonny Bill shuts out All Blacks talk - NZ Rugby Herald

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
06 Oct 2014, 06:16
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06 Oct 2014, 06:16#1

Sonny Bill Williams is not getting too far ahead of himself, at least publicly, shutting down talk of his certain All Blacks call-up for the November tour.


His return to New Zealand rugby, at the Counties Manukau Steelers training base at Drury, was a far cry from the glamour of the NRL, which he left just 10 days ago. The weather was wet and cold, and the surroundings far from salubrious. He was put through his paces by Steelers coach Tana Umaga, who worked with him at Toulon from 2008-10.


"I haven't thought about that, to be honest. It's just step by step with Counties at the moment. If you start thinking about all those things, then things don't fall into place," Williams said of the All Blacks. "I need to earn my stripes here and the respect of the boys."


"First day today, just happy to be here with the boys, learning all the structures. I started to tweak the memory bank. A lot of the plays at Counties are the same as the Chiefs. I'm confident that I'll be able to get the feel back."


The 29-year-old said he followed the Chiefs and All Blacks closely in his 18-month hiatus from rugby, not to mention keeping tabs on the ITM Cup.


"I stay up to date with what's going on. I kept a close eye on how the Counties boys are going."


 

He looks in good shape, and says he is highly motivated to play some good footy back in his old code.


"You do miss it, and the friendships along the way. It was good to reconnect. It's a whole new challenge and chapter of my life."


Williams said that he was loving working with Umaga again. The pair have a solid rapport, and the former All Blacks great will be able to ensure Williams gets up to speed at the breakdown, where he excelled in his career.


He was uncertain exactly how the Steelers will use him - their side to play Auckland in Pukekohe on Wednesday night is not named until tomorrow afternoon - but it is likely he will come off the bench and then start against the Tasman Makos in Blenheim tomorrow.

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
06 Oct 2014, 06:22
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06 Oct 2014, 06:22#2
 Good call from Sbw. I like where his head space is at. He well most likely learn from Benji. Rugby takes alot of tutilage, and development. He well need to find his feet with the fundamentals of the game again. Obviousley from a commercial and marketing standpoint, he well bring in revenue and numbers to games. But he also has the x-factor so he well be a huge asset to NZ where ever he plays. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Oct 2014, 07:02
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06 Oct 2014, 07:02#3
 3ku1
The need moneyball SBW like another hole in the head - they have Fekitoa and he is as good as they can get.   Forget about SBW and Nonu - they have the real deal in Fekitoa.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
06 Oct 2014, 07:15
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06 Oct 2014, 07:15#4
 I kinda agree Mike. Fekitoa is the real deal. But Sbw has alot to offer. Fekitoa should be the incumbant going into the wc. But i think Nonu well have something to say about that. Sbw has xfactor, so can contribute. Besides doesent matter what we think, Sbw well be an All Black soon.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
06 Oct 2014, 07:17
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06 Oct 2014, 07:17#5
 ...not so clevermike....as you know the Cruden /SBW combination is a proven winning formula in Super XV so we'll go with that thanks... whereas the Barret / Fekitoa is a proven losing combination as we saw on the weekend even if all yr tries were the result of forward passes... pays to stay with combinations that work though mate
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Oct 2014, 07:26
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06 Oct 2014, 07:26#6
 Fekitoa is still developing (quickly) so we will see a lot more of him. 
SBW has his work cut out for him to get the no.1 spot in the ABs but he is a game changer, a natural talent that had an impact on the way the game  is played. We will see how quickly he adjusts to union but I fully expect him to be an AB. No. 1 is another questions . As Nonu & Fekitoa will have something to say about who is no. 1.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
06 Oct 2014, 07:34
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06 Oct 2014, 07:34#7
 JW I'm picking there will be a rotation policy through pool play like last time...given the likelihood of injuries through the Super XV the ABs will have a fairly broad squad to provide for all contingencies in every position...everyone should get a run at some stage...
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:00
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06 Oct 2014, 08:00#8
 @Brycy Lol i know your an ardent Chiefs supporter. But i dnt think you can proove, or place responsibility for the lost based on the Barratt/Fekitoa combination. Their are other variables to consider. Having some key players out diddnt help. SA dominated Ruck and Maul, and Set Peices etc. And a shared possesion. And executed well. Nz execution was poor in the first half. Nz had no time and space, as he was not getting good ball. This is only the second test Barrart/Fekitoa have played together, you have to give it time. I well concede though Barratt needs to add some physicality to his game. He needs another strategy when he has no time or space. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:15
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06 Oct 2014, 08:15#9
 Sbw will be okay as long as he doesnt go into the ring with old man Botha. His look like tarzan punch like Jane (Not carol) simply doesnt work.
As to his rugby well he will be thirty next year so slowing up a tad. Defences are better now and the offload no longer such a surprise.  Let's see how he goes kbbs before you get too excited like young 3 IQ and JW. 
Beeno again the sober voice of reason.  
Also Hansen has to be on board. sbw moving with the money and big stage approach may not have gone down too well with some.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:17
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06 Oct 2014, 08:17#10
I had an excellent pic for Hansen but it wont post!
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:25
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06 Oct 2014, 08:25#11
 3ku1, not convinced we actually lost the test looking at all the forward pass tries by the Springboks on the replays...big joke the last penalty as well....but yr right about missing key players... like Aaron Cruden for example haha..... but more promising than the Barret / Fekitoa combo is the Barret / Nonu combination as they will be Canes teammates this year...would prefer Fekitoa to go to 13 as he is a better attacking option than Conrad Smith but certainly we have some awesome depth in the backs...
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:33
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06 Oct 2014, 08:33#12
 Ah yes great depth and of course Julian Savea is better than Lomooo it is being said.Only trouble is they cant score enough tries against the Boks. In nz they only managed to score ONE try when we had 13 men on the field.In SA they scored on forward pass try that Pakie showed. Bad mis by ref. 
Maybe sbw can help? mother nonu is fading out. Conrad is way way overhyped.
Right now you have Feki and Savea and who else?
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:47
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06 Oct 2014, 08:47#13
 Beanhead really talking himself and the Boks up now they have one win against the ABs.

If the points count is against your Team on the scoreboard, what a better way to influence the ref than have a magnified slow motion replay on the screen of a harmless attempt at tackle play suddenly appear over and over for the refs benefit without the ref or the video ref asking for it and then also have your captain go "Ref, did you see that?" What a sissy way to win a Test Match.

Unfortunately for your Team Beans, the RWC won't be played at Ellis Park - oh oh.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2014, 08:57
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06 Oct 2014, 08:57#14
 Hi there haccked waaaaugh old frined. I am afraid Katie is worried about your mental state these days.
I was worried messam would join kerr barlow on the injury list when he made contact with the iron man's head. It was a shocker and even a red would have been warranted.
Then Barnes missed a bad forward pass that allowed the abs to score. Also the abs were throwing the ball in skew at the lineouts. They got away with a lot as usual. However what was fatal for the abs they had to play 15 Boks for the whole match - proved to be too much.
Hacked waaugh and kbbs I am here for you - remem ber that in your hour of darkness. 
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
06 Oct 2014, 09:11
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06 Oct 2014, 09:11#15
 Beeno your amazing you got the win. Stop making up rubbish about forward passes, and skewed line outs. Coles try was fine, their was also some borderline firwardish passes with SA trys too. 15 men? Nz hv bn beating yous for three years, and you finnally had to rely on Uncle Barnes and his babies in the crowd to win, well done . Nz were the better team the last ten mins. I f SA were they should of wrapped the game up instead of nearly loosing a game they dominated for 70 mins. And not sure how you can justify Messam deserving a red card. As you your self have been saying for a while now "Most of Nz wins hv been heavily ref assisted". Well just acknowledge SA got a ref assisted win. Does not mean they wernt the better team. Lambie took his kick, brilliantly and good on him. But get your facts straight. Messam definately deserved a penalty, it was high. But your over exagerrating a bit to suggest red card, get your blinkers off. Seeing it was an accidental slip of arm, partly due to Burger slipping low, and it wasent intentional. No way did it warrent a yellow card let alone a red card. But whatever Beeno we know your spacially challenged . 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2014, 09:29
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06 Oct 2014, 09:29#16
 3 I Q  spacially challenged I am- how to get this extra big brain into a normal headsize! bwahahahahahahahaListen 3 IQ - why I converse with this cretin is an act of sheer compassion - the Boks were the better side and the ref favoured the wee abs.
I was a bit disappointed the Boks went to sleep a bit in the second half but they finished strong and were worthy winners and ou Hansen admitted. 
A few more right callby Meyer and its Boks number one again and things go back to normal.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Oct 2014, 11:34
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06 Oct 2014, 11:34#17
SBW is a class act, I wish he'd stop punching out deadbeat no-hopers though.  
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Oct 2014, 13:03
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06 Oct 2014, 13:03#18

It will be great to see SBW play Union again & to see him polish his skills.

 

We are spoiled as fans to have such great players. I guess the Boks can always rely on Matfield, Bakkies & Morne. No worries there right?

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
06 Oct 2014, 13:19
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06 Oct 2014, 13:19#19
 No Denny, what I would like is for any of your big boys Coetzee or Vermulean or Eben or Barkies take on SBW one on one
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