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South Africa player ratings vs Ireland | Rugby World Cup 2023 By Daniel Gallan

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2023, 01:00
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25 Sept 2023, 01:00#1


South Africa player ratings vs Ireland | Rugby World Cup ...

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15 – Damian Willemse – 8
Mostly very good. His sharp footwork always seemed to create the extra yard needed to work a move. Slipped tacklers, fielded high balls and hoofed some raking fields across the park. Might have been more incisive when joining the line, and would have been a welcome sight at first receiver more often, but got involved enough to leave a lingering impression.

14 – Kurt-Lee Arendse – 6
Mostly asked to chase high kicks or join the attack as a runner against the grain. He’s just not that sort of winger. Only beat one defender all evening as he ran into traffic time and again. Either the Springboks need to change the way they use him or bring in a harder ball-carrier like Makazole Mapimpi for the knockouts.

13 – Jesse Kriel – 5
Made one charge off of first phase ball and was through a gap on 24 minutes and tidied up an Irish hack deep into Springbok’s territory, but was otherwise a soft presence on the pitch. He tried to off-load to Kolisi when holding on would have been the wiser option. That ended South Africa’s most sustained period of dominance in the first half. One wonders what might have been had he shown more patience.

12 – Damian de Allende – 8
Even in a match involving Bundee Aki, de Allende was a monster in the midfield. Apparently only carried five times but it felt like a lot more. Several runs would be better described as rampaging charges that flattened would-be Ireland tacklers. Garry Ringrose and Johnny Sexton were both run over in the first half and he continued to hammer the line every chance he got. Also played a key hand in Kolbe’s try as he looped round and fed Mani Libbok to his left. One of his more dominant displays for some time.

11 – Cheslin Kolbe – 6
Scored an easy try down the left and went looking for work throughout. It wasn’t a game for hot-stepping wingers but whenever he was called upon, he delivered. Assured under the high ball as well.

10 – Manie Libbok – 5
Have you heard the one about the mercurial Springboks 10 who plays delicious floated passes to set up tries in the corner but can’t kick his goals? Sure you have. It’s been the Manie Libbok story ever since he made his debut. A wonderful try assist on the wraparound for Cheslin Kolbe will win many fantasy points, but his inaccuracy at the tee cost his team the match. It will be tough on him if he has to make way for Handre Pollard in the next round, but only the most romantic among us would argue against that move.

22m Entries Avg. Points Scored 1.1 7 Entries Avg. Points Scored 1.1 9 Entries

9 – Faf de Klerk – 7
Made an error with his first contribution of any importance, sailing a wild pass for Cheslin Kolbe on the left wing shortly after kick-off, but soon regained his composure. Controlled the tempo well and unfurled a variety of different kicks from hand that each suited the situation. Measured and effervescent all at once. Replaced by Cobus Reinach with six minutes to go.

1 – Steven Kitshoff – 7
A crucial scrum penalty win at the scrum five metres from his own line was a standout contribution. Tadgh Furlong is one of the best around but he managed to hold his own, proving his value. Also stepped up to make 10 tackles. Switched for Ox Nche on 48 minutes.

2 – Bongi Mbonambi – 6
Accurate at the line-out and resolute on defence, but lacked the requisite grunt needed from a South African hooker when charging towards the gainline. That he failed to make one clean break is a damning statistic. Replaced by Deon Fourie on 65 minutes.

3 – Frans Malherbe – 8
A rock at set-piece. It was his shove in the scrum that set the platform for Kolbe’s try. Replaced by Trevor Nyakane on 62 minutes.

4 – Eben Etzebeth – 7
Someone please find out what runs this man’s engine. Whatever it is, if we could harness its power we’d solve South Africa’s energy crisis. Never stopped working. Seemed to hit every ruck and put his large frame where Ireland least wanted it. Subbed for Jean Kleyn on 48 minutes.

5 – Franco Mostert – 7
Played a central role in disrupting Ireland’s line-out in the first half. Was a nuisance throughout the set piece and a reliable target himself. A decent shift from the versatile second-rower. Replaced by RG Snyman on 48 minutes

6 – Siya Kolisi – 5
A flank is so busy that one pundit might consider them the player of the match while another might consider him a flop. Depending on what each observer is looking at they can both be right. Kolisi made 12 tackles, more than anyone else by the time he left the field on 51 minutes for Marco van Staden. He carried five times and won a turnover. But, during his stint, Ireland bossed the breakdown. As this was always going to be where this game was won or lost, and as this is a crucial KPI for any loose forward, it’s hard not to cast a critical eye at the Springboks talismanic captain.

7 – Pieter-Steph du Doit – 5
Industrious and energetic as always. Still, all that huff and puff never really materialised into anything tangible or of much worth.

Du Toit was a physical presence around the fringe. He flattened Johnny Sexton and procured an important turnover on his opposite number, Josh van der Flier. But he, along with those closets to him, were tasked with bossing the breakdown.

8 – Jasper Wiese – 6
This was arguably his most important game in a Springboks jersey. He wasn’t poor but nor was he outstanding. A bit of a meh performance when his team needed more. Replaced by Kwagga Smith on 48 minutes.

Replacements:
16 – Deon Fourie – 6
Ably stepped up and hit his line-outs. Mostly asked to defend when brought on.

17 – Ox Nche – 8
Smarter observers of the game might be able to name a front-rower in world rugby who has improved more over the last two years than Nche, but none come to mind right now. An excellent performance.

18 – Trevor Nyakane – 8
Not for the first time he entered the scene and immediately won a scrum penalty. Strong carries and tidy hands. A really asset to the Bomb Squad.

19 – Jean Kleyn – 6
Was handy when he joined the party to take on his old pals. Didn’t leave a mark but also gave a decent account during his cameo.

20 – RG Snyman – 7
Some noticeable charges throughout he guts and secure at set-piece. Helped maintain the energy of the tight five.

21 – Marco van Staden – 6
Wasn’t able to raise the tempo at the breakdown when introduced.

22 – Kwagga Smith – 7
Outstanding counter ruck. His introduction injected much needed intensity at the breakdown. Strong carries too.

23 – Cobus Reinach – N/A












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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2023, 01:33
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25 Sept 2023, 01:33#2

full match

https://drop.download/11vjygtbuz9w/Rugby.World.Cup.2023.09.23.South.Africa.Vs.Irela nd.480p.x264-mSD.mkv.html

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Sept 2023, 05:32
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25 Sept 2023, 05:32#3

Also played a key hand in Kolbe’s try as he looped round and fed Mani Libbok to his left.

Exactly the same thing that Esterhuizen did unmentioned against Romania (see the Mapimpi try starting at 67:00) - a simple pass back from the 12 to the 10 looping around in Bok set moves. DDA also didn't "loop around", he literally just caught the ball and passed it back. What are these people smoking?

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Sept 2023, 06:04
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25 Sept 2023, 06:04#4

The ratings. Better to post IR ratings with them either from the same author or the same site.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Sept 2023, 06:25
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25 Sept 2023, 06:25#5

The comment on the 10 is ironical.

SA rugby has kept reducing the expectations on players, their way to keep up with competition.

A 10 is reduced to few dimensions: one is the ability to kick, the second the ability to defend his zone.

Nothing more. Anything else is unneeded and burdening.


SA rugby and their absence of rugby.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Sept 2023, 07:45
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25 Sept 2023, 07:45#6
These ratings are a laugh a second. Journos are becoming nothing but fanboys. Anyone that gives Allende 8 for that game can't be trusted. My word, what's wrong with these people?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,224 posts
25 Sept 2023, 09:22
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25 Sept 2023, 09:22#7

If you score Delande how he plays as an individual, it will always be much higher than the impact he has on the team effort as an inside center.

Yes, he is strong and is able to carry half a team on his back, but we don't see much playmaking ability. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2023, 13:55
#8
25 Sept 2023, 13:55#8

If you rate Dud on what he does vs what he doesn’t do, he will always have a high rating. Where was Dud when Ireland scored, where was Dud when Bundi broke, where was Dud when we scored. In  all those key moments his instincts had him at the wrong place.

And did those two moments when he bumped off Sexton and Ringrose amount  to anything? Nope, because instead of looking to offload he continued to tractor and died with the ball.

Of all Bok regular centres he probably has the lowest strike rate….but I bet if we looked at assists, the number would be even worse.

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