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South African rugby is staring into the abyss; by biltongbek,

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 May 2014, 09:23
#1
14 May 2014, 09:23#1

I have been trying to clear my thoughts to voice my opinions on the state of South African rugby over the past few weeks.

There are so many issues worth discussing that I find it hard to prioritise the most pertinent issues.

Player resources
In light of the recent performances by the Super Rugby franchises this is likely the most important discussion point.

The current number of actively capped Springboks (49) plying their trade overseas is now outweighing the number of locally capped (48) Springboks. By my last count 88 South Africans are playing in the top three professional competitions in Europe, this excludes Japan, Australia and lower-tiered professional competitions.

The sixth Franchise
Looking at the number of active Springboks and high quality players not playing in South Africa does make the idea of a sixth South African team competing in Super Rugby from 2016 a bit of a farce.

It stands to reason that the exodus of professional players in South Africa will continue as the selection policies of Heyneke Meyer to select players from anywhere has encouraged our players to leave for bigger contracts. There is no incentive to remain local.

It severely affects those youngsters who have come to realise that loyalty to local rugby does not necessarily bring reward for higher honours, and as careers are becoming shorter due to the physical demands on bodies, a shorter but better paid career is making financial sense.

How SARU plans to maintain six competitive franchises is becoming a real concern and the question is what will they be doing about retaining local players? Is there a possibility of central contracting and how are they going to increase revenue to a point where higher player salaries can be sustainable?

Coaching quality and game management
There is currently an obvious lack of try scoring ability within the South African conference (1.8 tries per match) when you compare it to the New Zealand conference (2.9) and the Australian conference (2.3).

Now we all know that South African coaches at Super Rugby and international level prize structured game plans concentrated around forward-dominated packs and territorial kicking game plans.

However, when you consider that New Zealand, in particular, have improved their tactical kicking to the point where they now often dominate the territorial kicking game against their South African counterparts suggests South African coaches have fallen behind in the evolution of the tactical game.

Further proof that the South African coaches at Super Rugby level have fallen behind is when you start comparing their teams’ performances at the breakdowns, where statistically we get turned over far more than our Australian and New Zealand rivals.

The maul, which is a traditional strength of South African teams, has been mostly negated by effective tactics. Where are the counter tactics by South African coaches to ensure that the maul remains a tactical weapon worthy to employ?

Granted some of the franchises have been hit hard with injuries, but most franchises have injury lists long enough to have a cause for complaint.

I would dare to suggest that a coaching summit is sorely needed by Heyneke Meyer and Rassie Erasmus to address the above issues.

2016 and beyond
I fail to understand how Jurie Roux can advocate that SARU got what they wanted with the suggested acceptance of the four conference model for Super Rugby’s future.

I do not see how they believe the two new conferences within the ‘African’ conference are to the benefit of South African rugby. Effectively there will simply be a repeat of the same six teams competing in the Currie Cup during the Super Rugby tournament, albeit now in two supposedly separate conferences.

South African rugby is slowly beginning to stare into the abyss, and is facing severe challenges in regards to maintaining a sustainable financial structure.

It is already evident that even rugby-crazed supporters are walking away from losing teams and if the continued fall of quality continues then I fear we might be doing more than just staring into the abyss.

Players moving abroad, coaches falling behind the tactical eight ball and continue expansion is coming at the cost of quality.

Whether SARU have spoken to their supporters to find out what they really wanted, whether they are blissfully unaware of our tactical deficiencies and the player drain or whether they have an inkling of how to address each issue, I don’t know. But I sure as hell hope so.

The reality is that something has gone wrong very quickly, and it is most likely a combination of a number of factors. Whatever SARU is going to do next will surely be indicative of where they believe South African rugby finds itself and how serious they are in finding a solution.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 May 2014, 09:25
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14 May 2014, 09:25#2
 A real pessimists view. After the Boks get their first victory they will be seen a "champions" again, lol
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 May 2014, 11:35
#3
14 May 2014, 11:35#3
No not pessimistic at all. Add in race based quotas and the fact that we have too many provinces and the picture is not good JW. I saw somewhere that we have over 300 players playing professionally abroad. Nowdays its also the younger players in their prime leaving.
The rand is so weak that the salaries offered overseas are enormous. Not picking overseas players for the Boks would not help much if at all.Us having a 6th side in the - the Queens - is purely a racial matter. The joke is the Queens did not pick many black players simply because there are so few of merit to pick. Blacks here are soccer crazy.There is nothing wrong with coaches of the calibre of Rassie, Venter and Mallet but where are they - Rassie has a back room type job. A complete waste. 
I outlined these factors on more than one occassion and now ou blitong bek has also seen the light. There are very serious problem we face. It's no use denying it. We should be ruling world rugby as per normal but these factors and bent refs mitigate against us achieving our potential. Having to put up with bent refs is about the last straw!!!!
This does not mean we cannot still remain competitive for a while longer as we still have amazing talent that keeps coming through. I am still hoping we beat the wee abs this year and go on to win the WC next year. Its actually astonisihing how good we still are given what happens here!!!! Nz under the same conditions would have completely collapsed. No other country in the wolrd could remain competitive under similar disadvantage. Remember also a smallish number of Africkaners carry our rugby so its a small pool. Not 50 million as some hatters claim!!!! Afri kaners are the best rugby players in the world in my opinion. That doesnt mean though that we should not ALWAYS pick on merit.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 May 2014, 12:24
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14 May 2014, 12:24#4
 Beeno for once you were making some valid points, then bent ref oh their he is! Lol. Dissapointing you were so close. For the record i see no evidence to suggest "bent" refs, its nothing more then an excuse. NZ havent dominated World Rugby because of the ref lol, for the record just because something is controversial does not neccessarily mean the wrong call was made, yes sometimes as in the case of the Landers Lions game. But your acting like its all prederermined. And deleberatley done to keep SA from world domination haha. Their are far more important and several other reasons why SA dont have their stuff sorted, and it has zero to do with the competency level of the Referees, all countries. Your acting like its just NZ reffing, the SA refs can be and arguably probably more incompetent, case in point Lions Blues game, but we dare say bent refs apparrently your a hypocrite go figure. I mean you well never hear the coach go "And all credit goes to the ref" haha of course not. I also have serious doubts whether or not SARU gets their stuff sorted  at the top ala Administration, do they have the resources and player talent to be #1 in the world. Considering the player exodus from SA, can they keep hold of their players, even if they did im still not convinced they can take down the mighty All Blacks, they are way moor professional from Club Lvl to Test Lvl, everything from the ground up leads to Abs. Its not like that in SA, just way too many politics, and i dont think it well ever change, at least not until after the WC.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2014, 12:34
#5
14 May 2014, 12:34#5
There are various points raised that needs particular attention:- 
Selection Policy
I think the point has now been reached where players playing for overseas clubs must be excluded from Springbok selection.   It always added to the flood of SA players chasing foreign money - if they want to do that they must clearly be told - if you want to play for South Africa you will play rugby in South Africa.  
I have said in the past there have been a few key players that we would miss - players like Habana and Louw.  The rest have been dead average to poor, Morne Steyn being an example.   The mere idea that bench players for European and Japanese clubs make the Springbok team is enough to make one vomit.
Most of the foreign players outside of SA are way past their best and most of the candidates are in fact 30+ years old - so what do we want with the rugby geriatrics.  In any event - players from Japan are generally slower, and more unfit than they should be - their physical condition deteriorated after leaving SA and they are selected based on reputation = not performance.
The Sixth Franchise
This idea has always been driven on political grounds - the Eatern Cape shall be accommodated at all costs on the theory that it is the cradle of Black Rugby in SA. There is really no justification for it from a RUGBY perspective.   The two provincil teams from the area - namely the Kings and the Border teams - are of the weakest in CC and even the Vodacom Cup competitions.  
Lets face fats - the player outflows made it hard enough to field four quality sides in the present Super 15 and that is a fact.
A sixth SA franchise is a joke in bad taste.
Coaching Quality
There is no doubt that there re two serious problems with regard to our coaching.  Those are -
*   the game plan of the coaches; and*   there selection policies
Game Plan
I am sure that most coaches wants to see a different outcome to their ideas of the so-called territory game and especially to the kicking game.  The latter is characterized by the lack of strategic kicking and the ever-present aimless kicking by especially our half backs.   Kicks are too far ahead to follow up effectively and aimed straight at the opposition recipients.  Most kicks merely serve to hand over possession to the opposition teams.
However, where the coaches really failed us is with the neglect of ball handling skills. Most of our top school boys have better ball handling skills than the professionals on Super 15 level.   The professionals make handling errors like it is unbelievable and there is lack of capacity to off-load balls in tackle situations.  
Plan A seems to be always donkey kick the hell out of the ball - there is effectively no Plan B in view of the poor ball skills of the players.
Selection
Most selections have nothing to do with the ability to read games and play accordingly.  Selection is based on size and have nothing to do with skills.   You ger players in key positions - like flyhalf,  who must be told in advance what they must do - they are totally clueless about ball sense, reading of the game and on-field decision making.    
The smaller - more skillful players are totally neglected or have to play outside of the big donkeys.  Players like Francois Steyn would not last 2 matches in any New Zealand or Australian franchise - here they are regarded as key players.   
There are skillful players in South Africa - but they never see the light of day in selection policies - the big and poor skill players are given preference.  There is enough problems with the quota system already - why add to it by selecting the skill-deficient donkeys?
There are serious issues to be addressed by SARU - but they would do nothing and rather see SA Rugby run into the ground by their defective policies and practises .                    

       
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2014, 14:35
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14 May 2014, 14:35#6
 @Beeno.

"I saw somewhere that we have over 300 players playing professionally abroad. Nowdays its also the younger players in their prime leaving."

I agree that the players moving abroad are younger than the ones who  moved, let's say, eight years ago.

What I am not so sure about is the figure of 300 that is thrown around. I made a few calculations:

The top overseas leagues are the:

Aviva Premiership (12 clubs)
Top14 (14 clubs)
RaboDirect12 (12 clubs)
Japanese Top League (12 clubs)

If you consider that they all have squads of about 35 players, it gives you 1,750 players. That would  mean that the 300 South African  players make up 17.14% of the player base. Bear in  mind that those clubs also have players from NZ, Aus and Argentina. To put a different spin on it....those clubs need to have, on average, 6 SA players each (300 players divided amongst 50 clubs). Nope, I don't buy it.

In addition to the above. Let's accept that there are 300 players playing abroad. What would we do with all the players, should they suddenly return? Remember that our requirement from 2016 wouldbe 6 franchises X 35 players per squad, i.e. 210 players in total. Someone is going to loose out, or we will have to convince SANZAR that we need another 8 franchises.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
14 May 2014, 15:52
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14 May 2014, 15:52#7
 "We should be ruling world rugby as per normal".Hasbeeno, I presume you meant to say "as the ABs normally do". Moolaa keeping a realistic view on World rugby!And where did you pluck the magical figure of 300 from? Out of your rear end "as per normal"??

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
14 May 2014, 16:04
#8
14 May 2014, 16:04#8
 This is why NZ  puts up with losses of players the calibre of Renee Ranger in order for the long term gain of keeping our boys here in the S15s where they remain under the ABS coaches guidance .
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
14 May 2014, 16:13
#9
14 May 2014, 16:13#9
Even if we had all of our players in South Africa, if our back-line cant pass and catch the ball to professional standards we are going to have problems. 
Being able to run at full speed and make long accurate passes is the best way to open gaps on attack because the defensive line has to stand further apart to mark the opposition running line.
Decoy runners, and wingers or fullback cutting the line gives the carrier more options along with just moving the ball down the line.

Yes we would have stronger SuperXV teams and perhaps even a stronger Bok team, but our backline skills are a bigger problem than player exodus. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
14 May 2014, 16:15
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14 May 2014, 16:15#10
I think that we have to try and hold on to players for longer. If you have youngsters like Stander and Goosen deciding to pack their bags then you have a real problem. Not to mention fringe players such as Brussouw and Ebersohm who I thought was probably the most underated backline player in SA. 
It all stems from how the coach manages his squad and players. Almost all South African coaches has a player type in mind. If you don't fit the mould then you are not considered. I almost feel that our coaches don't consider performance at all but pick players on reputation. 
South Africa needs to get back to a place to let their players know that they are in with a shout and create competition. 
I would also say that no foreign players can be selected for the boks. There should be a silent agreement where by if a player have not made the bok team by 27, their chances of being selected would be slim. 
I think South Africans are age obsessed. They are always looking at the next set of youngsters to come through when they should be looking at how players are developing. Le Roux only debut at 24 and before then was pretty much un heard of. Ben Smith made his debut at 27 and probably considered one the best backline players. 
South Africa have to figure how to keep the middle and come up with a player agreement where by players can go abroad if need be to earn cash.
The Japan connection is almost working as it allows players to earn some dough but still play super rugby. The only thing they need to do is to say to these players that if you are selected for the boks squad you need to fogo your club commitments. That way its country first and club second. 
Coming back to age obsession. Ebersohm had a dream season for the Cheetahs and helped them to get to number 6. At age 24 he never got selected and Meyer decided to go for the untested Serfontein in his squad. In my books I would have gone for Ebersohm as he adds more off the bench and as a backup player then Serfontein. But the message was that the coach only want to work with a certain player which is completely the wrong message. 
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 May 2014, 16:17
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14 May 2014, 16:17#11
 Per Normal? Wheres thid Pre Requissete or Status Qui your refering to, as the norm which is SA at the top. I dont kno but if you ask me i cant remember the last time SA dominated NZ. And i dont mean in one matxh, or even in one year, but for three years straight like the Abs hv with you. To be quite honest NZ has been the older brother kicking sand pit sand in the little bro sa for 100 years 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
14 May 2014, 16:34
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14 May 2014, 16:34#12
 The NZ coach has direct input these days into the type of player he requires but it seems the SA coach is almost in conflict with the club coaches as to how player development is to proceed .Club needs first Boks second ? would all you bok fans agree or not ?
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2014, 00:40
#13
16 May 2014, 00:40#13
 The oaks are simply incapable of realising having 49 Boks playing abroad and as I said some 300 odd professionls abroad, definitley weakens the playing strength of our Super 15 squads.I then get 3 IQ "reasoning" after I have added to the list of problems outlines in the article that I am singling out bent refs alone (We get twice as many yellows as the wee abs!) Etc etc so it is a big factor but there are all the other significant factors isted. The cumulative effect is enormous Simple facts are the abs would not live with the bBoks and in Super rugby terms we should have 5 SA sides in the top ten. IF we had our house in order.
Warped DUD we need a central contracting system, All this has been splelt out many times.The rot starts at the top. Too much gravy train self interest. No merit principle. 
Things may have to get worse before they get better. The problem is because of our enormous inherent strength we still are in the upper echleons of world rugby. Oh that we would nosedive to number 10. Maybe then we would take the necessary steps to get our house in order. I would accept number 10 spot anyday for a complete reform. 
We are in a shambles rugbywise. That is true even if we win the RC this year and world cup. We are performing way under potential. Any sucess by the Boks would only mask the problems.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 May 2014, 01:25
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16 May 2014, 01:25#14
Beeno: a classic quote & w(h)inning* philosophy:
"Any sucess by the Boks would only mask the problems."
Lol, so now Bok fans are hoping to lose!! May all your wishes come true - well at least this one 

*Pun intended
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
16 May 2014, 12:48
#15
16 May 2014, 12:48#15
 moolaa: And where did you pluck the magical figure of 300 from? Out of your rear end "as per normal"??

Answer: There was a movie!


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2014, 13:11
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16 May 2014, 13:11#16
 JW ypou clealry need some life coaching so allow me to enlighten your extreme darkness. It's when the wheels come off that certain oaks start to take note and realise changes are a must. Elementary really JW.
As for the over 300 rugby professionals playing overseas it was something I read somewhere and maybe even posted here. I see ou Brosnihan commenting on the rugby player drain on Boots and All. Oz are climbing in as well as japan and Europe. Its very significant dispite what half wits like the untruth think. Bwahahhahahahaha We could with our palyers all available field say 10 Super 15 sides?
What Beeno thinks today the world thinks tomorrow. -How do you like that one JW. And all the kbbs said amen and amen. 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 May 2014, 16:43
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16 May 2014, 16:43#17
 @Beeno. Of those 49 Boks playing abroad, how many are really currently in the running? Have you ever checked how many All Blacks are playing abroad?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 May 2014, 20:19
#18
16 May 2014, 20:19#18

Everyone is barking up the tree about the players who played for foreign clubs and how there are 40 Springboks playing for foreign clubs.   Kpw many of those famous 49 are really still Springbok material?   You have the cases of -
*   players who got into the Springbok team by accident about 10 or even more years ago and should in the first instance not have been Springboks;
*   the players who left SA after the 2011 WC - with a view to make a fortune  as a pension guarantee and should never be considered for the present Springbok team - here you can among others include Bakkies Botha, Gurthro Steenkamp, Juan Smith, Jacque Fourie and even Fourie du Preez, who want to be selected for the Springbok team based on reputation and has not shown anything much when some of them were in fact selected - most of them are way too old to bring vitality to our rugby;
*   the players who think they left in a blaze of glory but in fact failed in France like the Steyns - the bad one came back and is soon to be off to Japan: and final;u the few that could really be selected for the Springbok team based on performance - I can think of only 2 - Francois Louw and Bryan Habana.
The problem is not the above situation.  The problem is basically the fact that -
*   our coaches are clueless when it comes to coaching, their game plan and selection of players; and
*   the horribly low skill set of the players selected.
The ideal situation was according to the coaches when SA has a dominant pack and used the concept of force play by the forwards putting the opposition under pressure - the so-called ten man game.  Like any fixed plan without alternatives the opposing teams have devised methods t counter that approach and they make mince mea of our slow and largely immobile forwards.   We also lack the flyhalfs that could make such plan work.  There are way too much aimless kicking merely serving as a means to hand over possession to the opposition.
There is a constant stream of criticism about ball losses in breakdowns, the number of penalties given away in the case of tackled players and the lack of ball recovery from the opposition.  We select the slowest imaginable loose forwards and think they will play a role in that element of the game.   
We have a real problem at flyhalf.   We expect from our flyhalfs NOT to think and read the game - and follow a pre-determined game plan.  Some are so bloody awful they cannot themselves decide whether to pass or to kick balls - so they kick as a matter of routine.    Our two present Springboks (the Steyns) are the worst examples of total inability to read games and make logical decisions = the real destroyers of effective 15 man rugby.  
Then for the rest - the handling skills of players.  Some of those cannot or refuse to pass balls and if they do pass balls it goes astray.   This is among both the forwards and the backline players.   Players like Jaques Potgieter and Sias Ebersohn have improved beyond recognition because they have learnt the basic skill of passing and catching balls whilst playing in Australia.
I am sad to say I have seen better ball handling skills in Craven week, the schools competition and the Under 20's than is in evidence in our Super 15 teams.   Our senior players are selected based on bulk and weight not on their ability to read games and play constructive rugby.   You will find players like Alberts and the Steyns, will not make the franchise teams of New Zealand or Australia,  basically because of seriously defective decision making and horribly poor skills sets.
And then we want to make the grade in international competition - we will not and some drastic changes are necessary.   If you fo through the franchise and also the Springbok team  you will be able to identify who should be given the boot and who should be in the team because they can play rugby - not because they are two ton tessies.  
                       
        
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 May 2014, 02:07
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17 May 2014, 02:07#19
Beeno:"What Beeno thinks today the world thinks tomorrow" (the confident ramblings of beeno, 2014).
Beeno in 2050: "Is tomorrow here yet?"
& the fair minded kiwi said: "we told him tomorrow never comes, he keeps rambling on about it though "

 


RU
RugganutClub Pro183 posts
17 May 2014, 07:35
#20
17 May 2014, 07:35#20
I really want to congratulate 'Just' for the initial post and opening sensible debate. 
Beeno, great participation. All i can say there on the 'bent ref' part is maybe we should think that we have bought this upon ourselves. I personally, would like to see players being penalized, when they take out players on the fringes of the rucks and malls who are not engaged in play. (Franks brothers are top at this 'cheap shot' act which weighs heavily on the injury toll)
Mike, i have long been in agreement with you on the points you have raised and find them very valid. I am stifled on the 'game plan' part though. I feel a game plan is good but if the game is not going according to your plan, which is often in SA case, we seem to not have the ability to change the plan midway through a game and stick with the same shit that is not working. That opens a whole new debate.
Ceradyne, good points. On the players abroad, it is a very debatable point and one i do not have the answers to. On the one side a player, in the professional era, will seek employment from the highest bidder, that is fair enough. On the other side is the moral debate and unfortunately capitalism and providing for ones family comes out tops. Is it to the determent of SA Rugby ?, yes. Does it provide financial security to the player? yes. 
King, agree. What needs to be looked at is the coaching. The fundamental problem we have on our hands, and i am one of them, is that we are impatient and want immediate results. This is very hard as the coaches only look at the next game as if they do not get a win, we all want their head. I am 100% guilty here. I do not know what the solution is here but wish we could find one. 
Beeno, "The rot starts at the top. Too much gravy train self interest. No merit principle." I could not agree more. The thinking is just all wrong but this stems from the above paragraph.
Mike, agree whole heatedly, again. I think what we can clearly see is that we are dominant in the junior ranks globally, but when we get past that we fall apart. Is this because if you not follow the crap coaches game plan, which you have never played and do not change, you do not get selected. Very few Boks in the modern era have been able to play their natural game, no team has been built around players strengths and no player has been told to go on the field and enjoy themselves. (Watch Willie follow this route. His spark will be killed and eventually he will be a dead cert for selection on what he used to do but is not allowed to do anymore)
In all fairness the state of SA Rugby, where a player cannot freely express himself and all his creativity is deemed to be reckless and not fit into the 'game plan' together with the lure of better wages, is not going to stop players leaving SA's shores. Rory, is a prime example.
Lastly, the Kings must be included and the franchise must be developed. As is pointed out here, our talent pool is drawn from 3 mill and not 50 mill and we must increase that, whatever the cost. What must go with that, is that players must be selected on merit alone, nothing else. Lets just hope that Saffex is never a selector.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 May 2014, 12:14
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17 May 2014, 12:14#21
 Windpomp ya halfwit you are making a complete twit of yourself if you think the player exodus are not affecting our super 15 sides. Thir currency is much stronger than our and and the import large number of islanders to make up for the losses. Theeir scouts are permanently station in Fiji, Tonga and Samoa with the sole object of spotting talent and luring them to nz to bolster their rather thin rugby talent.I should not really dignify your nonsense with a reply. 
Please windpomp engage lonely brain cell before babbling away. Beeno giving ou windpomp some much needed advice!
Ruganutter - please take advice offered to ou windpomp and apply it. Who do you think appoints the coach oak. Are you getting a glimmer - the rot starts at the top. Hahahahahahahahaha on e has to spell things out here!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 May 2014, 12:28
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17 May 2014, 12:28#22
Beeno: I am glad you are awake (although one wonders if this makes any difference in your case) & hope you are up to the challenge of some banter during the Saders v sharks game 
I am sure some posters appreciate your "spelling things out", & that they make allowances for all the spelling mistakes, factual & logic errors. One shouldn't be picky & their response is a tribute to the dignity with which we conduct ourselves on this site

BA
black adderClub Pro196 posts
17 May 2014, 12:35
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17 May 2014, 12:35#23
 Beenob ya big windbag. Still here talking shit I see and you've got a new excuse for being so kak at rugby. How convenient. Sit back , put you feet up  and get ready for another rugby lesson Beenob courtesy of the seven time super rugby champions . Make sure you bow down in the presence of King Richie won't you.
OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
18 May 2014, 03:02
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18 May 2014, 03:02#24
black adder  - nice lesson bru. Hopefully we get taught the same lesson next week. Most enjoyable


Anyone who owns a fishing pond will tell you that if you always throw the older big fish back hoping to catch them again you are doing more harm than good to the overall health of the fishing stock. You're better off culling the big oaks once in a while which allows the younger fish to compete for food and gives them room to grow into big oaks. You'll end up with far more big oaks in the end. As far as I'm concerned this overseas exodus is not an issue as only a couple marquee sure-fire Boks have left and if anything the exodus has forced the young stock into positions where they are forced to grow and develop . Besides, with SARU's policy of electing overseas players what's wrong with a few of our young blokes growing up in the neighbor's pond because if we really like what we see we can always go get them and bring them home, no?

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