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South African Super Rugby Squads for 2018

Started by CleanCut8 REPLIES1,091 VIEWS· 09 Feb 2018, 09:05
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Feb 2018, 09:05
#1
09 Feb 2018, 09:05#1


Bulls (38)


Warrick Gelant, Duncan Matthews, Travis Ismaiel, Jamba Ulengo, Jade Stighling, Divan Rossouw, Burger Odendaal, JT Jackson, Francois Brummer, Jesse Kriel, Johnny Kotze, Handre Pollard, Marnitz Boshoff, Manie Libbok, Ivan van Zyl, Andre Warner, Embrose Papier, Roelof Smit, Ruan Steenkamp, Hendre Stassen, Hanro Liebenberg, Jannes Kirsten, Nic de Jager, Tim Agaba, Jason Jenkins, Ruben van Heerden, RG Snyman, Lood de Jager, Aston Fortuin, Pierre Schoeman, Conraad van Vuuren, Frans van Wyk, Matthys Basson, Lizo Gqoboka, Trevor Nyakane, Jaco Visagie, Adriaan Strauss, Edgar Marutlulle


Lions (40)


Jacobie Adriaanse, Cyle Brink, Robbie Coetzee, Andries Coetzee, Ruan Combrinck, Ross Cronjé, Ashlon Davids, Hacjivah Dayimani, Ruan Dreyer, Aphiwe Dyanti, Willie Engelbrecht, Lourens Erasmus, Andries Ferreira, Corne Fourie, Rhyno Herbst, Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Marco Jansen van Vuren, Elton Jantjies, Johannes Jonker, Jaco Kriel, Robert Kruger, Sylvian Mahuza, Lionel Mapoe, Malcolm Marx, Len Massyn, Christiaan Meyer, Howard Mnisi, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, Shaun Reynolds, Marnus Schoeman, Sti Sithole, Courtnall Skosan, Dillon Smith, Kwagga Smith, Dylan Smith, Madosh Tambwe, Jacques van Rooyen, Harold Vorster, Warren Whiteley


Sharks (45)


Akker van der Merwe, Coenie Oosthuizen, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Daniel du Preez, Franco Marais, Gideon Koegelenberg, Hyron Andrews, Jacques Vermeulen, Jean Droste, Jean-Luc du Preez, John-Hubert Meyer, Juan Schoeman, Keegan Daniel, Kerron van Vuuren, Khuta Mchunu, Lubabalo 'Tera' Mtembu, Mzamo Majola, Philip van der Walt, Ross Geldenhuys, Ruan Botha, Stephan Lewies, Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira, Thomas du Toit, Tyler Paul, Wian Vosloo, Andre Esterhuizen, Cameron Wright, Courtney Winnaar, Curwin Bosch, Garth April, Grant Williams, Jeremy Ward, Johan Deysel, Kobus van Wyk, Leolin Zas, Louis Schreuder, Lukhanyo Am, Lwazi Mvovo, Makazole Mapimpi, Marius Louw, Michael Claassens, Rhyno Smith, Robert du Preez, S'busiso Nkosi, Tristan Blewett


Stormers (47)


Juarno Augustus, Craig Barry, Nizaam Carr, Jaco Coetzee, Damian de Allende, Jan de Klerk, Paul de Wet, Stephan de Wit, Dan du Plessis, Jean-Luc du Plessis, Johan du Toit, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Dewaldt Duvenage, JJ Engelbrecht, Eben Etzebeth, Neethling Fouche, JC Janse van Rensberg, Steven Kitshoff, Siya Kolisi, Dan Kriel, Dillyn Leyds, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe, SP Marais, Bongi Mbonambi, Salmaan Moerat, Dean Muir, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Scarra Ntubeni, Caylib Oosthuizen, Sergeal Petersen, Justin Phillips, Raymond Rhule, Carlu Sadie, Ramone Samuels, JD Schickerling, Seabelo Senatla, Joshua Stander, Kobus van Dyk, Chris van Zyl, Alistair Vermaak, Jano Vermaak, EW Viljoen, George Whitehead, Cobus Wiese, Damian Willemse, Eddie Zandberg


There's a lot of talent here. A blind man could select a potent Bok squad if he wanted to and that's without having to draw on the retired hasbeens contracted permanently up north.



BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
09 Feb 2018, 18:25
#2
09 Feb 2018, 18:25#2

A blind man could select a potent Bok squad if he wanted to.. 

Have a go at naming one then...we all need a good laugh...

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Feb 2018, 07:20
#3
10 Feb 2018, 07:20#3

1. Steven Kitshoff

2. Malcolm Marx

3. Wilco Louw

4. Eben Etzebeth

5. Pieter Steff Du Toit

6. Jaco Kriel / Kwagga

7. Kwagga Smith / Jaco

8. Warren Whiteley

9. Ross Cronje

10. Damien Willemse

11. Makazole Mapimpi

12. Rohan Janse van Rensburg

13. Burger Odendaal

14. Ruan Combrinck

15. Warrick Gelant

16. Edgar Marutllule / Acker vd Merwe

17. Dylan Smith

18. Frans Malherbe

19. RG Snyman

20. Philip van der Walt

21. Robert Du Preez

22. Ivan van Zyl

23. Andries Coetzee

That's a very good start.

We still have players like Harold Vorster, JT Jackson, S'bu Nkosi, Tank Du Toit, Embrose Papier, Juarno Augustus, Handro Liebenberg, Lood De Jager, Franco Mostert,  the Du Preez twins and many more to consider. Handre Pollard under Mitchell could find his mojo again and be brought back into the mix to lay his claim for the 10 jersey.

The core of the side is an easy pick. We have our tight 5 sorted with excellent cover on the bench and many banging on the door to get in.

Our back row is an easy fix with lots of talent competing for the run on side. We can pick an out an out back row with our current lock pair in place and if we want we can select PSDT at 7 and replace him at 5 with a quality lock. Can't say I'm in favour of that but it's an option. 

Our backline can be sorted out quite quickly with proper selections. No Kriel or De Allende types wanted. No Rhule's or Skosans needed. A wizard at the back in Gelant ... with powerful wings in Mapimpi, Combrinck, van Wyk and Nkosi.

We can produce some quality ball for these boys with the likes of Janse van Rensburg and the intelligent and side stepping Odendaal on his outside who is a natural 13 ... and then there's guys like Harold Vorster and Jackson putting pressure on them all the time. 

As I said ... we have more than enough talent to present the world with a quality side and if given this season and the next, to tweak a bit here and there, we will undoubtedly be a threat at the next world cup ... so I wouldn't write us off just yet, Brycy.

We may even cause the upset of the tournament by beating your struggling All Black side.

Wouldn't that be a laugh? 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Feb 2018, 13:42
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10 Feb 2018, 13:42#4

Well said CC. Please don't take too much notice of my good friend Brycy who tends to laugh at things which are not funny. Brycy is a confused oak needing plenty of guidance.

There is still massive talent so here is hoping.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Feb 2018, 11:10
#5
17 Feb 2018, 11:10#5
The majority of this year's probable Bok backline would probably struggle to make any of the NZ Superrugby franchises . Fortunately, we have greater depth up front , hopefully, a better coach who can reinvigorate our legendary 'gees', & who knows, '18 might not be yet another nightmare rugby year .
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Feb 2018, 11:42
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17 Feb 2018, 11:42#6
Hi there Bob. Bob you are not seeing the wood from the trees oak. Put the ab backline into the Bok set up and they would quickly disintegrate. Our backlien play isa product of very backward coaching. Proof - look how the Lions backline functioned and recall that they were all nobodies to start with and also that the Lions franchise had no money to buy players. Then Imaging what franchises like the Bulle, Sharks and Stormers whop do have money etc etc but who failed dismally to produce creative well rounded backline players. Also consider how creative etc our school boys are. The argument we don't have backline talent is a whole load of BS. We would not have had a test lead over nz over many decades of competition unless we had decent backs. Away wiith all this sillyness!
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
17 Feb 2018, 13:08
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17 Feb 2018, 13:08#7
history is just that, history,.... have to know it but doesn't count SA is not producing quality backline players,.... that's a fact and cannot be reversed with history,.... and the main flaw currently is something that used to be a strength of the SA rugby,.... the defense Rhule, Skosan, A. Coetzee, Gelant, Leyds, J. Kriel, Mapoe, RJvR, de Allende,.... there's no recent bok backline player who can be classified as a good defender,... and the great majority are really deficient (Rhule, Skosan, Mapoe, de Allende,... seemingly Combrink is the most decent of the current yield,... but he struggled big time the few times he played test level
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
17 Feb 2018, 14:36
#8
17 Feb 2018, 14:36#8
I think the problem with the SteroidBok defence is due to Yarpies generally lacking a bit of courage. They don't have the bottle. Don't think the attack is much better to be honest. How many Yarpie backs can you name from the last few years who consistently created anything on attack? Last one I can remember was Andre Joubert.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Feb 2018, 16:48
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17 Feb 2018, 16:48#9
We all saw how that over rated Coconut Sonny Williams attacks ... shoulder first into the face of his opponent ... and then he's allowed to get away with it by having his sentence reduced to nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Typical kiwis. A law unto their own. They should have sent him back to his coconut island ages ago.
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