"Special Connection" between Samoa and the wee Abs?

So Samoa once again lived up to their number 1 ranking of the most dirtiest team.

1) Grabbing a player by his testicales! - I wonder if the rest of the Samoa team were a bit wary of the coward Solialo when it came to shower time?

2) Stiff arm tackle to JDV's chin - Well done to JDV for getting up.

3) Kicking Coenie - Well done to Coenie for keeping his cool.

But I think there is more to it, maybe the wee Ab's asks Samoa to do them these favour because they can't do it themselve's? Unless your Andrew Hore who can only take cheap shots hitting  player from the back. Same favour they asked Bryce Lawrence?

Why do NZ and Samoa also never play against each other????

Bokbe I have just asked the question as to whether we have had Samoa in our pool in every world cup we have played.

There does appear to be a strong connecrtion. I visited some Polynesian rugby websites some years ago and one comment was the abs were the best polynesian team in the world. They regard themselves as part of ab rugby and will do what they can t o ensure the abs win. Possibly why they are still  rugby colonies of nz? Hence their consistent attempt to injure the Boks at the WC via cheap shots.

Note something else as well. The Samoans in my view did not play dirty against either Italy or Scotland. I had hoped they were on a new path.

No, as Moz says, something has to be done.  The IRB needs to have a serious talk to the oaks and tell them to clean up their act or face the consequences. SARFU should enquire as to how it is we always get these oaks in our pool.

That Solialo got away with this is total nonsense. The still arm deseved a years ban at least. Red card is not enough. Still message needs to be sent out.Jean could have ended in a wheel chair.

As for the abs I do believe that despite some poor discipline while on tour in the NH (and their loutish fans as well!!) the abs are  a cleaner side today than in the past.  They are more subtle about the dark arts these days. Its all about getting away with it by whatever means possible. We hope too that here the  IRB keeps a close watch on proceeedings via ref stats and performances etc. Perhaps they should appoint that beacon of virtue Bob Dywer to assist in rooting out corruption?

 Bok-Bef...  The last time the Abs played Samoa (2008), we beat them 101-14. We've only ever played them 5 times to the Boks' 8. A bit disgraceful seeing they're in our part of the world!

Whilst the Boks get Samoa in just about every WC, we get to play Tonga who in my view play even more recklessly than the Samoans!

Moooo  la the Tongans I agree can be as bad. We have had both Samao and Tonga both in our WC pool.

At least we have rare agreement as to the problem. 

NZ conned there way to the RWC 2011 so why would this not surprize you ????

Yeah we got Samoa on the hotline.

Hello Samoa you there ?

NZ here .

Can you go to South Africa and smash some yarpies for us?

Jolly good. We'll send you some taro and corned beef.

steinlager it is another conspiracy- Samoa tried to pull of Andries Strauss testacles to keep him out of the 4nations. 

sharkbok or maybe trying to prevent Strauss from re-producing so that they don't get smashed in 23 years time. hahahahaha

The Samoan connection with nz is huge. I think what gets under their skin is they cant out gun the Boks physically etc.

Here is a list of Samoan players who have played for other sides. Shows they have talent but their thuggery is putting people off. Found this info on Wekipedia.

• Digby Ioane
• Ben Tapuai
• Joseph Tomane
• Christian Lealiifano

• Manu Tuilagi

• Michael Tagicakibau

• Alisi Tupuailei
• Hendix Tui

• John Afoa
• Sosene Anesi
• Ben Atiga
• Graeme Bachop
• Stephen Bachop
• William Birtwistle
• Andrew Blowers
• Olo Brown
• Frank Bunce
• Eroni Clarke

• Julian Savea
• John Schuster
• John Schwalger
• Kevin Senio
• Dave Solomon
• Frank Solomon
• Rodney So'oialo
• Benson Stanley
• Jeremy Stanley
• Sonny Bill Williams
• Rudi Wulf
• Joe Stanley

• Neemia Tialata
• Filo Tiatia
• Isaia Toeava
• Ofisa Tonu'u
• Mose Tuiali'i
• Va'aiga Tuigamala
• Richard Turner
• Tana Umaga
• Victor Vito

• Keith Lowen
• Lelia Masaga
• Chris Masoe
• Aaron Mauger
• Nathan Mauger
• Keven Mealamu
• Brad Mika
• Dylan Mika
• Mils Muliaina

• Jerry Collins
• Christian Cullen
• Charlie Faumuina
• Ross Filipo
• Alama Ieremia
• Michael Jones
• Jerome Kaino
• Josh Kronfeld
• Pat Lam

Thanks Beeno so to summarise the wee Ab's would be crap without all the Samoans. Hahahahaha

Well Mike apparently all these guys were of Samaon decent and borne outside Nz.

Then also we have the guys who didnt become abs but played Super 15. Then we havent listed Tongans or Fijians.

So yes as you say some may have immigrated and been raised in nz. Some may have come latter. Its difficult to know these details.

What is certain however is the close emotional connection to nz and hence Samoan antagonism to the Boks that we continually see on the field of play.

"Well Mike apparently all these guys were of Samaon decent and borne outside Nz."

My God you're stupid, Baboon-ou!

Just how much do you actually know about rugby if you think that All Black legends like Bryan Williams, Michael Jones, Christian Cullen, Sonny Bill Williams and Tana Umaga were born in Samoa or anywhere outside New Zealand?

Seriously?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha! How embarrassing! Stick to your copy and pastes, Baboon-ou!

A long and awkward silence followed . . . until finally . . .

"Duh-uhhh . . . Christian Cullen? Michael Jones? Uuhhh . . . who are these oaks???"

Bean brain you would have to be the stupidest japie Ive come across, I can tell you that at least 90% of that list, which includes bill birtwistle who played 50 years ago, are all NZ born players. That list is of players who have some samoan ethnicity. Christian Cullen has a deceased samoan grandmother.  They were/are all NZ citizens.

I can picture Baboon-ou right now . . .

this thread is pretty stupid. paranoid much? south africans are no angels either. do you remember schalk gouging a brits eyes? bakkies gouging brendan cannon's eyes? bismarck strangling a SAMOAN in the world cup but yeah we got the red card!! i dont agree with some of the stuff that went on but we arent the dirtiest players in the world and we dont have that kind of connection to new zealand either. how many samoan born players have played for new zealand? i cant think of any off the top of my head but i do know a lot of foreigners have played for south africa. so whats the fucking point anyway?

"this thread is pretty stupid. paranoid much?"

This is just stupid. Can't believe this is still used or argued? 

Polly … there’s a big difference between an individual losing his head and a planned assault by one team on another.

No Cleancut. You are misinformed

Spoon

Well of course not polly.

And the Irish coming over having a fist fight to keep the score down to 30 - 0? Canadians punching their way through a WC pool match in 95? Le Roux biting Fitzpatricks ear? Greyling on McCaw? Van Zyl attacking the referee? Really say much about our own culture doesn't it?

Spoon - are you saying that the team decided before hand that they would get into a fist fight or that Le Roux was given the go ahead by his team mates, captain and coach to bite Fitzpatricks ear?

Rooitwit you say I must stick to my copy and paste - well rooitwit I did - I copied this from Wiki!! I actually disclosed this as well. Bwahahahahahahhahaha what a hatter.

The Irish and Canadians had not much intensions of playing rugby in those game. 

Spoony you are trying to be argumentative. What we see from Samoa does not happen on this scale and with this consistently from any other side.

Yes ... that's exactly what I'm saying.

 Sheesh, no wonder South Africa is widely regarded as an intellectual backwater where those with more than 2 brain cells to rub together quickly make their escape and head to greener pastures (NZ more often than not).  Rooi and Spoony, if you both left SA( if you haven't already) the national IQ level would halve overnight. Mind you, if bean brain emigrated it would instantly double.  

Hehehe. Yeah, that's right, Saffas reputation as dirty players is unjust (insert sarcastic snigger).  Of course they would never intentionally set out to maim opposition players ( pfffffft)

huh??