21 Jul 2014, 19:56#2
Oh crap!
Looks like we may be down to 14 men permanently again sometime soon.
NTntanga
Club Pro336 posts
21 Jul 2014, 20:32#4
@ Chippo; that was my reaction too. Spies has a fight on his hands if he's serious about getting a Boks call. Personally I don't see it happening without Duane Vermeulen getting injured.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Jul 2014, 20:45#5
I didn't know much about Spies until he showed up in the Boks and he had what seemed like a couple of great seasons & disappeared again. He was being praised to the sky when he was at his best. I guess he got injured?
Anyway for him to make it back into the Boks sounds like a big ask.
NTntanga
Club Pro336 posts
21 Jul 2014, 21:01#6
@ JW; its more than a big ask boet. There are so many contenders for the number eight position. I would even slot in Boom Prinsloo (untried at test level) or Kankan (depending on his form) ahead of Spies.
P.S. Spies is a very nice guy.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Jul 2014, 21:04#7
ntanga: I have this mental image of Spies with speed and power crushing people in front of him. That's sports I guess from top to the middle ranks in no time flat. Only a very few stay on top of their game for years - they are the greats of the game.
MDMonkey D Luffy
Pro6,277 posts
MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 Jul 2014, 21:17#8
spies up to 2009 was a sight to behold, i remember heading into the 2010 TriNats it was spies contribution which had me the most worried.
but in recovering from his injuries, he lost that spark which made him a real force and he wont make the Boks on merit IMO, it will be that bulls conection which sees him don the green once more.
vermeulen has locked down the No8 easy and i dont think meyer will ever replace vermeulen as the incumbent heading into the RWC, but spies might come of the bench etc, which means burger would have to start, cos i cant see him not getting selected either.
backrow is the only area where the Boks depth is truly healthy, m coetzee, lappies, a botha, d vermeulen, n carr, j du plessiss, burger, mtembu, kolisi, boom,,,
very solid depth.
my No1 backrow for the Boks if everyone was fit would be,,,
6 n carr, 7 j du plesiss, 8 d vermeulen, 20 m cotzee
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Jul 2014, 22:23#9
Good to see you posting again Sasuke San I guess we will see if Spies has anything left. Maybe he recovered from his injuries in Japan.
Kahui and Kaino both had injuries and went to Japan. Kaino came back fighting fit & we hope Kahui will do the same.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2014, 23:05#10
Spies was done before the 2007 RWC...for reasons best left alone.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Jul 2014, 23:07#11
Moz: drugs...? now you have us all wondering.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jul 2014, 01:04#12
Van der Walt is the best reserve to Vermulen we have.
Spies got seriously ill and was never the same thereafter.
Best debulk bit and play wing if he has the speed.As he was playing he wont or shouldnt make the bulle never mind the Boks
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 02:52#13
This is the guy who is built like Tarzan and play like Jane. He can go and play soft rugby in japan - will not be missed at all.
22 Jul 2014, 10:44#14
Only way Spies will ever become a Bok again is if he attends more braais at Meyer's place.
Like the rest of the Bulls picks.