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EK
EkPro1,464 posts
03 Apr 2012, 15:04
#1
03 Apr 2012, 15:04#1

I hope Brendon Does not sue me for this but i thought it would be a good thing to post here. Beautifully written and for once I agree with him.

To go to the original blog

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/blogs/brenden-nel/The_death_of_sportsmanship

The death of sportsmanship -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Brenden Nel 02/04/2012, 09:12

 

It was such a refreshing change from Super Rugby when I found myself a week ago at the Affies-Waterkloof schools derby among some 15 000 other folk, and found that sportsmanship still does exist in crowds. Every time a kick was lined up at posts, the crowd went “sssshhh” and fell into a deathly silence as the kicker lined up for his shot at posts. Once it was over they broke out either into wild celebration or into a slow hand clap, depending who they were obviously supporting. It got me thinking: why have we lost the sportsmanship in our crowds nowadays? From Loftus Versfeld to Newlands, from Sydney and Christchurch, crowds feel it is right to boo an opposition kicker when he lines up a ball at posts. It has even gone so far that some teams – like the Cheetahs and now the Stormers – have even started to play music as the opposition kicker lines up his shot at goal. A few years ago continuity announcer Rian van Heerden was fired from his job at Loftus Versfeld for calling the Waratahs “sheep shaggers” over the stadium microphone. While Van Heerden revelled in the limelight and fretted over the injustice he was done, it was the right thing to do. There have been cases where a certain ex-Director of Rugby has been accused of bugging team rooms, and change-rooms of opposition to learn their secrets at halftime and before the game. One Super Rugby team now stays on the field at halftime, ostensibly in fear of being bugged as they have been victims of this before. In Bloemfontein, they enjoy playing music while the opposition kicker takes his aim, and then follow it up with his signature tune when he misses. On Saturday the Stormers reverted to playing their “Stormer” song whenever Morne Steyn lined up at the posts. In South Africa, in particular, any call for a moment of silence is greeted with chatter, and never the respect such an occasion deserves. There is no doubt the Bulls this past weekend asked for some stick with their pink outfits, and it was made even more ludicrous when their sponsors tried to convince everyone it was a “purple” kit. And while Super Rugby is high-stakes action, with a lot on the line, surely there has to be some honour among thieves when it comes to hosting a game. Don’t get me wrong, the banter between fans is one of the best things about rugby, and the bragging rights after a big victory means a lot to people who take this wonderful game of ours very seriously. But why resort to underhanded tactics – like bugging a team room – or playing music when an opposition kicker takes aim? I accept that I may be idealistic in this, and probably will get slated for this in the comments section below, but surely we have to rise above this pettiness? I remember having a late-night argument with a senior Free State rugby official who tried to convince me it was his job to do everything in his power to make sure the opposition kicker is put off when he takes his kicks. I disagreed and still feel that if your team is good enough, they should be able to beat the opposition with their game plan, composure and by taking the chances that are offered to them. After all, if not, then we are a small step away from the disgraceful isolated crowd incidents we have seen at stadiums in the past few years. In the end if we look at the players, they have it right. While there may be some grudges that never see the public surface, after a tense game ends, they walk to each other and shake hands, exchanging pleasantries and often share a cold beverage afterwards in the changerooms. The friendship supercedes the rivalry and the healthy respect they have for each other shines through. They don’t carry on like spoilt children, but are humble in victory and gracious in defeat. A prime example of this was how the All Blacks and Springboks shared a flight back to Johannesburg after last year’s match in Port Elizabeth. Sitting on the same flight it was a pleasure to watch the likes of Jerome Kaino and Fourie du Preez share stories, Graham Henry and Heinrich Brussow talk about the aspects of the game and Danie Rossouw and Ali Williams laugh loudly at something they shared while sitting next to each other. If the players can do it, then why can’t the administrators? Sure we all want to win, but do it honourably. And the same goes for the crowds. Booing a kicker may seem fun at the time, but it is disrespectful and shows the manner of sportsmanship and respect you have for the game. Embrace those who visit your stadiums, enjoy their talent and be happy when your team matches up to them and wins fairly on the field. After all, as we are often reminded, it is only a game. We all get emotional and hot under the collar at things that happen on the field, but the idealist in me would love to see a big stadium show the respect that schoolboys do in their games. Somewhere we’ve lost our sportsmanship. Somehow we need to find a way to bring it back.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Apr 2012, 15:17
#2
03 Apr 2012, 15:17#2

Thanks for posting this. It is something that irritates the crap out of me as well. I know that some might say that it is something brought along by the professional era, but that is a lame excuse, IMO.  Why can a crowd keep during a London Irish/Leicester game at a packed Madejski stadium keep quite for Toby Flood to take his kick, and the Newlands/Loftus/Durbs/Bloem/Jo'Burg crowd have to behave like flippin hooligans?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Apr 2012, 18:35
#3
03 Apr 2012, 18:35#3

Come now....can we remember the vitriol directed at players like Bobby Skinstad and Percy at Loftus? No this hostile stadium thing, was born at Loftus and has now take root at Newlands.

 

I regret that. When I was a school boy watching at Newlands, great play by opponents was loudly cheered. I remember, for example, Newlands errupting in applause as Pat Jennings and his Boland pack mauled 50 metres through WP to score a brilliant forwards' try. 

 

Rugby is an inclusive game and we should welcome all opinions.....in stadiums, in pubs and on Boards!

US
UsernamePro1,098 posts
03 Apr 2012, 20:19
#4
03 Apr 2012, 20:19#4

This is a cultural thing. The deterioration in culture worldwide can be reflected in these things. Sadly it will only get worse.

CA
canrugbyClub Pro640 posts
03 Apr 2012, 23:31
#5
03 Apr 2012, 23:31#5

"This is a cultural thing. The deterioration in culture worldwide can be reflected in these things. Sadly it will only get worse."

 

^ That.

 

 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Apr 2012, 23:43
#6
03 Apr 2012, 23:43#6

Must also agree, unfortunately its the truth Aristo.

US
UsernamePro1,098 posts
04 Apr 2012, 00:35
#7
04 Apr 2012, 00:35#7

One of my fondest memories of culture at a sporting event was when we absolutely thrashed the French in Paris. I believe this was 1998. The French gave the Boks a standing ovation. It's old values and etiquette like that which I miss; things which imbued everything that was captivating about rugby in particular.

EK
EkPro1,464 posts
04 Apr 2012, 09:36
#8
04 Apr 2012, 09:36#8

My question is this to all of us me included. Would it then not be our resposibility then to get that old sportsmanship conduct back? I am sure there are alot of people that feel the way we feel. I for one don't even go to newlands anymore, well Parking has alot to do with it as well at least they don't drink at the stadium so I don't have a drunkard hanging over my shoulder when i watch rugby, however the attitude we have there and I include myself when i am there, as I am part of the organism called a crowd, stinks. As with everything no use pointing fingers and blaming it on a certain crowd. I am not one for looking back problem solving 101 - find a solution to fix the problem - not find someone to blame. So yes in essence, Culture is defined by the people involved - us.

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
04 Apr 2012, 12:13
#9
04 Apr 2012, 12:13#9

 good topic Ek - enjoyed it! You are right - Culture is defined by the people involved - us!

EK
EkPro1,464 posts
04 Apr 2012, 13:21
#10
04 Apr 2012, 13:21#10

Therfore the thing we need to keep in mind is that we are the ones that have to change this.

We need to open our mouths and tell them this is not the way we do it.

We need to keep the sport we love clean.

Our culture, our sport, our responsibility.

Nothing big, just next time, don't just keep quite, irrespective of who you support have some respect. And breed that respect.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Apr 2012, 15:57
#11
04 Apr 2012, 15:57#11

Look I dont mean to be awkward but a few well timed boos are great for atmoshpere, it means someone cares!

When carter line sup fo r apenalty at newlands he is wel land truly booed. Meaning we want him to miss!. It hardly put sou carter off as invariably he slots the kick. Booing a bit of foul play is the right thing to do or .when a ref misses a point. The crowd is involved  and the atmosphere is electric.

But moenie throw the oke with a naartjie please  - that is taking it to far and may put you shoulder out.

If a great try is scored by ones opponents a few (a few I say ) polite claps would not be out of order - this is more to show we are sportsmen rather than that we appreciate the skills of these visiting twits.

Sportsmanship will only entertain you so far. Passion, white hot , is what makes certain games unforgettable. After the game of course a player  must shake hands with his opponents and pretend he never ment it.

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Apr 2012, 17:16
#12
04 Apr 2012, 17:16#12

Boo them but don't throw naartjies at them. The next guy says throw naartjies at them just don't throw plastic bottles at them. The next one says throw plastic bottles at them, just don't throw glass bottles at them. The next says throw glass bottles at them, just don't throw full glass bottles at them. Bullshit. Start at the top. Don't be rude and don't boo. Finish. Beat them fair and square on the pitch. The home crowd support together with the noise, shouiting and banter is already advantage enough.

US
UsernamePro1,098 posts
04 Apr 2012, 17:44
#13
04 Apr 2012, 17:44#13

You don't need to boo Carter, he is more than capable of missing alll by himself. Such a shoddy kicker ou Carter.

EK
EkPro1,464 posts
04 Apr 2012, 17:54
#14
04 Apr 2012, 17:54#14

Booing someone shows your class man. Really bad taste, honestly.

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