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Springbok alignment camp . . .

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 11:25
#1
15 May 2025, 11:25#1

Rassie has announced 56 players for the Springbok alignment camp.


There will be two camps, one for locally based players and a virtual camp for overseas based players. The local camp is in Cape Town on Thursday 22 May and the virtual camp is on Friday 23 May.


The players named are as follows:


Players invited to Springbok alignment camp in Cape Town:

Forwards: Renzo du Plessis (Lions), Eben Etzebeth (Sharks), Neethling Fouche (Stormers), Cameron Hanekom (Bulls), Vincent Koch, Siya Kolisi (both Sharks), Wilco Louw (Bulls), Bongi Mbonambi, Ntuthuko Mchunu (both Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (Stormers), Ox Nche (Sharks), Ruan Nortje (Bulls), Asenathi Ntlabakanye (Lions), Gerhard Steenekamp (Bulls), Vincent Tshituka (Sharks), Marco van Staden, Jan-Hendrik Wessels, Cobus Wiese (all Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks).

Backs: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Aphelele Fassi (all Sharks), Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (Stormers), Jaden Hendrikse, Jordan Hendrikse, Ethan Hooker (all Sharks), Quan Horn (Lions), Willie le Roux (Bulls), Manie Libbok (Stormers), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), Ntokozo Makhaza (UCT), Canan Moodie (Bulls), Morne van den Berg, Edwill van der Merwe (both Lions), Damian Willemse (Stormers), Grant Williams (Sharks).

Players invited to virtual Springbok alignment camp:

Forwards: Juarno Augustus (Northampton Saints), Lood de Jager (Wild Knights), Jean-Luc du Preez (Sale Sharks), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Thomas du Toit (Bath), Jean Kleyn (Munster), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), RG Snyman (Leinster), Marnus van der Merwe (Scarlets).

Backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Dynaboars), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Cheslin Kolbe (Tokyo Sungoliath), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier).


Five players were specifically named as being unavailable because of injury. They are:


Frans Malherbe, Elrigh Louw, Ben-Jason Dixon, Deon Fourie and Trevor Nyakane.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 11:28
#2
15 May 2025, 11:28#2

No Evan Roos is the biggest surprise for me.


Andre Esterhuizen is included so ou Maaik looks like he's going to lose all that money he is betting on AE not being a Springbok this year.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 11:36
#3
15 May 2025, 11:36#3

Geez so many good players missing - Roos, how the hell did he not make it


Ruan Venter

Ludwig

Theunissen

Manu Tsituka

Dan du Preez

Buthelezi

Horn

Ruben v Heerden

Ruan Vermaak

JF v Heerden

Jenkins

JD Schickerling

Andre Smith

Dweba

Grobelaar

AH Venter

Sadie

Hanro Jacobs

Frans Klopper

Nohamba

Papier

Jantjies

de Wet

Nico Steyn

Masuku

David Kriel

Jurenzo Julius

Henco v Wyk

Sebastian de Klerk

Zas

Tyrone Green

Hartzenberg

Gelant


Too much emphasis on the old and not enough new added - very disappointing if this is how Rassie is going to proceed


Surely it’s time to move on from the likes of Reinach, Mostert, Koch, Mapimpi etc given their ages

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 May 2025, 12:10
#4
15 May 2025, 12:10#4

There seems to be somehing wrong with Roos - he is not playing for the Stormers this week. So it may be the reason why he is not in the Alignment group.


The fact that Dumbo was invited does not mean he would be selected to play for the Springboks in any match this year,

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 12:28
#5
15 May 2025, 12:28#5

Ja well, Roos wasn't mentioned among the players not considered due to injury.


I suspect Rassie was only ever going to consider one of Roos or Hanekom and he's gone for Hanekom.

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
15 May 2025, 13:40
#6
15 May 2025, 13:40#6

I’m quite surprised at some of the ages of the players he’s picked. I think you need a lot of new blood.

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
15 May 2025, 13:44
#7
15 May 2025, 13:44#7

Roos is quick... but average.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 13:45
#8
15 May 2025, 13:45#8

Yes Becs very disappointing

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 13:50
#9
15 May 2025, 13:50#9

Team of non selected


15 Gelant


14 Green


13 JJ


12 David Kriel


11 Tambwe


10 Masuku


9 Papier


1 Matanzima


2 Dweba


3 Hanro Jacobs


4 Jenkins


5 Ruben v Heerden


6 Buthelezi


7 Ruan Venter


8 Roos


16 AH Venter 17 Matongo 18 Klopper 19 Ruan Vermaak 20 Manu Tsituka 21 Nohamba 22 Henco v Wyk 23 Zas

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 13:50
#10
15 May 2025, 13:50#10

Chippo and you are a rugby ignorant prick

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 May 2025, 14:05
#11
15 May 2025, 14:05#11

Any international side would welcome Roos.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 May 2025, 14:06
#12
15 May 2025, 14:06#12

Chippo and you are a rugby ignorant prick


Why bother?

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 May 2025, 15:21
#13
15 May 2025, 15:21#13

I don’t think alignment camp players are the final pick?? The other players like Roos, JJ, might still be in the final group…


Who is Makhaza from uct? Well let’s wait and see what the final group will be….Don’t forget transformation ….ha ha

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 18:08
#14
15 May 2025, 18:08#14

He is a wing that looks pretty handy - Cheetahs have signed him. He also kicks for poles

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 18:40
#15
15 May 2025, 18:40#15

I get the impression Roos is going to be another the du Preez twins story under Rassie


Which is pretty pathetic

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 18:42
#16
15 May 2025, 18:42#16

Roos will get a shot under Rassie. You'll see.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 18:56
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15 May 2025, 18:56#17

At some point in time, we're going to have to do without the great Siya Kolisi. If that moment is now, then . . . .


15 Fassi

14 Cheslin

13 JJ/Hooker/Am/Kriel

12 Damian (Willemse!)

11 Arendse

10 Sacha

9 Grant

8 Roos

7 PSdT

6 Hanekom

5 RG

4 Eben (capt)

3 Ntlabakanye

2 Marx

1 Ox


16 Bongi

17 Mchunu

18 Wilco

19 Moerat/C Wiese

20 JLdP/Louw/Juarno/Vincent/Manu/Renzo/Theunissen/J Wiese/DdP/Kwagga/Phepsi

21 Krappies

22 Moodie


Apologies for the cop-outs for the #13 and #20 positions. Just so many options and no clear stand-out.


Hope that's enough black players.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 18:59
#18
15 May 2025, 18:59#18

Not convinced Rooi - as much as I rate Rassie some of his selections at times leaves me despairing


du Preez twins is a perfect example


Also the reliance on the old guard is at some point going to bite us - he needs to let go and the only way he can do that is by including the younger players in these camps to get them aligned

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 19:00
#19
15 May 2025, 19:00#19

Rassie has his own views on the age thing. I also see it your way but I'm no longer questioning Rassie's RWC-winning wisdom . . . so I'll accept his calls . . . for now.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 May 2025, 19:28
#20
15 May 2025, 19:28#20

Oh my goodness you want to start Ntlabakanye ?? That guy is like two Busses put together, slow, no muscles and not the best scrummer ….


Wilco is light years infront of him and will Anker the scrum the best…so if you didn’t know, a tighthead,s job is to Anker the scrum…. There is no one better than Wilco!!


And I agree with Saffolk that Erasmus is relying to much on the old gaurd ….it actually seriously looks like he wants that old gaurd at the next World Cup??


But all will be revealed sooner than later…..If he is this real genius or the

" Poephol “ I have long been suspecting:)


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 19:41
#21
15 May 2025, 19:41#21

"Oh my goodness you want to start Nchankanye??"


Sorry, giMp, you're going to have to be a bit clearer than that if you want to join adult discussions.


"Nchankanye" (sic) . . . Do you mean Ntuthuko Mchunu, the Sharks amazingly mobile loosehead or do you mean Asenathi Ntlabakanye, the best performing tighthead in this year's URC?


Not trying to make you look like a dick again, I honestly don't know which one you're referring to.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2025, 19:53
#22
15 May 2025, 19:53#22

giMp, let me start off by saying that I'm the biggest Wilco Louw fan. I think he's brilliant.


If you prefer to start Wilco and bench Marx then you go right ahead. I won't complain too loudly.


If you're too naive or ignorant to recognise that one of Bongi or Asenathi needs to start, then rather go talk rugby with one of the Grumpy Old Men. I'm not interested.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 May 2025, 20:20
#23
15 May 2025, 20:20#23

Which one do you think, if I talk about two Busses put together??


The prop that plays for the lions….is maybe not that bad but not on the level of Wilco…we want to win right??


Aah and still you want to carry on about my mix up ??!! You really are a pathetic loser….


So go ahead and pick some fat guy and let our best performing SA TH sit on the bench??!! Talk about being a dick, and you proclaim you know Rugby??!!


Your name should be Gimp retard :) and don’t flatter yourself, I don’t want to talk to you , you absolute horror of a human being!!


I am just shutting you up, because of this absolute KAK you sprouting again!!


And by the way, leave the Team picking to Dave, you are fucking Kak:)

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2025, 20:26
#24
15 May 2025, 20:26#24

Lol


So...no JJ...and no Roos.


Seems like you need to start listening to us, Dawid.


The inclusion of Nortje is just pure icing on the cake.




PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2025, 20:51
#25
15 May 2025, 20:51#25

Denise, I bet that Chippo watches far more rugby than you do and has probably watched hours of Roos this season alone.


Oh, my bad, I forget you live in Australia where they don't have internet access and so you can't watch rugby even though you love it much.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 22:11
#26
15 May 2025, 22:11#26

Plum stop being a fucking prick

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2025, 22:26
#27
15 May 2025, 22:26#27

How so, Dawid?


You call JJ the best thing ever...but he doesn't even cut the alignment camp.


Rassie knows nothing about locks, and I guess we can add 13s to the list, right?





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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 22:38
#28
15 May 2025, 22:38#28

Did JJ make the last alignment camp?


Its not only JJ that is missing - get a fucking life you loser

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
15 May 2025, 22:48
#29
15 May 2025, 22:48#29

haha, I love how Dave can create 15 springbok sides that can beat the one that Rassie picks. So take Rassies 54 and Dave can pick a 30 man squad that will beat Rassies team.


But I think Dave is onto something. Remember when SA A player the bulls during the covid BI Lions tour and the bulls end up beating the boks. So I do think he might be onto something.


Tyrone Green is a mystery, he had a blinder over the weekend. Had a hand in almost every Harlequins try except for the one where he knocked his own try scoring chance in the goal area due to stupid messing around.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2025, 23:13
#30
15 May 2025, 23:13#30

Yeo King - yet Rassie ignores Green and adds a wing that has only played in the Varsity Cup


Fuck me if Rassie had me as his selector he would have a 100% winning record


Willie, Mhakaza, Mapimpi, Faf, Reinach, Koch, Mostert, Kleyn, Nortje, Fouche, Renzo and v Staaden are all poor calls


The likes of Lood, Malherbe, de Allende, Kolisi and Bongi are also reaching their sell by dates as are Am, Jessie and Esterhuizen


The only 30 plus year olds worth hanging on to are Kolbe, Pollard, Marx, Eben, PSDT, Wilco, RG and maybe Kwagga - with enough other experience provided by Arendse, Willemse, Ox and Wiese


Thats a core of experience - 12 players worth - build around this core with younger players I say

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 May 2025, 06:17
#31
16 May 2025, 06:17#31

Its not only JJ that is missing - get a fucking life you loser

I wouldn't give a toss of what ButtPlug says, Dave........a loudmouth jammed with self importance.

His selections are a laugh.....bangs on about Loosie at 12 which in my not so humble opinion is a specialist position reliant on a number things, as an example, guile and instinct which comes after years of experience. So here you have a Loosie who has gained his experience in that certain position now because he can run he qualifies to play as an inside centre.

Hilarious!

Then the Nutter goes onto say everyone is doing it but when asked to name the teams....UHHH OHHH out comes the deep dive.

The funniest is when he picked a supposedly world class cricket 5.........headed by a player who only really represented in T20......a white ball player who isn't even good enough to represent the Proteas in ODI cricket.

You can be forgiven if you believe he comes out of the ANC academy of cricket and rugby.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 06:28
#32
16 May 2025, 06:28#32

Lol


According to us then we should drop players as they reach 31 lol


Rassie is just smarter than you boys. Well, it doesn't take smarts to see what's happening, just a teensy bit of logic.


NONE of the players you've mentioned are over the hill.


...did you see who and where we are playing this year? Two away games against the world's biggest cheats and then also away against France and Ireland.


Rassie won't be blooding much new talent in those games. I can see Hanekom and Hooker becoming regulars this year buts that's about it. I think Henekom will likely get the most caps but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Hooker starts some important games too - the kid has everything you'd want from a Bok.


Rassie needs his strongest side to give him one more solid season and then we'll see bigger changes.


So calm down Dawid.


Anyway, don't worry. If JJ doesn't get selected he can always represent SA in the 100m because he "glides" and because Joel says he's "Vinnig" bhahahaha


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 06:31
#33
16 May 2025, 06:31#33

Lol and Mike rates that AE will get no caps.


One can only laugh

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 May 2025, 06:48
#34
16 May 2025, 06:48#34

Yep Roos at 12 - case closed


Nothing more needs saying

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 07:13
#35
16 May 2025, 07:13#35

It's called a speculation, Dawid.


Unlike the "facts" you share which are mostly never facts at all but rather the ramblings of a fake.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 May 2025, 07:34
#36
16 May 2025, 07:34#36

You have to be pretty fucking rugby ignorant to suggest Roos at 12 - that is the definition of fake fucking stupidity. But we are pleased with the fact you speculated - for that dumb call now defines you as a so called rugby follower


You clearly know fuck all about the game

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 08:39
#37
16 May 2025, 08:39#37

Haha if only we could trust your calls though.


You've still never provided a clear answer as to why couldn't play 12.


The catcher from your knuckle-dragging self was..."Becos Roos have 8 on hims jersey"


We will never get an answer from you. And when we do, it's likely be riddled with contradictions like "There is no space in the modern game but there is space, but there ain't, but there is."




DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 May 2025, 08:55
#38
16 May 2025, 08:55#38

Yep Roos at 12 - case closed

Actually, it's his mighty effort to think outside the square.......oh my aching sides!

The comedy continues with 'everyone is doing it'........sure as hell not holding my breath waiting for a response.



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 May 2025, 09:03
#39
16 May 2025, 09:03#39

My advice for Rassie .................. give Etzebeth a complete break from rugby & tell him to take the missus on a lekker holiday & return in the new year.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/94793659/how-rugby-sabbaticals-helped-the-all-blacks-win-the-last-world-cup

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 09:19
#40
16 May 2025, 09:19#40

Denise, you've been so embarrassed on here that the best you can do is to side with others in disagreements...like the beta that you are.


You make me cringe to the bottom of my soul.


A repulsive and cowardly beta.

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