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Springbok Camp Squad Announced (ex Bulls/Sharks)

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
23 Jun 2019, 22:07
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23 Jun 2019, 22:07#1

Cape Town - A group of 26 players gathered in Pretoria on Sunday for the next instalment of the national alignment and conditioning camps as the Springboks continue with their preparations for the forthcoming international season.

Players from the Bulls and Sharks, who took part in the weekend's Super Rugby quarter-final matches, will join the camp from next Monday.


Nine overseas-based players will attend the camp and they include: flank Marcell Coetzee (Ulster, Ireland), utility forward Rynhardt Elstadt (Tououse, France), prop Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), lock Franco Mostert(Gloucester, England), scrumhalf Faf de Klerk, fullback Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), scrumhalf Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints), wing/fullback Cheslin Kolbe and centre Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France).

Fransie returns...


The Springboks kick off their shortened campaign on July 20 against the Wallabies in Johannesburg and that match will be followed a week later by the keenly awaited rematch with New Zealand in Wellington, the scene of last year's epic away win over against the All Blacks.

The Boks conclude their official campaign against Argentina two weeks later, on August 10 in Salta, while the same two teams are set to meet again a week later in Pretoria in a once-off Test before the Boks report for Rugby World Cup training duty.



The following players will attend the Springbok alignment and conditioning camp from Sunday in Pretoria (in alphabetical order):

Forwards

Schalk Brits (Bulls), Marcell Coetzee (Ulster, Ireland), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse, France), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (Stormers), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Marvin Orie (Lions), Kwagga Smith (Lions)

Backs

Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Aphiwe Dyantyi (Lions), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Dillyn Lleyds (Stormers), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)

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For the most part, the squad is as expected, with just a few bolters.

Good to see Kwagga is called up. He could be effective on the fast pitches of Japan.

Fat Fransie has been called up again. He is probably a better option than Delande or Carthuizen. There has been no space for Serfontein?

Have the Deysel twins missed the bus  for being too one dimensional? Will see which Bulls and Sharks will be added.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2019, 22:15
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23 Jun 2019, 22:15#2
A few positive player choices beyond the obvious...Elstadt, Mostert, Koch, Kwagga, Herschel Jantjies, Reinacht and the big one, Frans Steyn.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
23 Jun 2019, 22:20
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23 Jun 2019, 22:20#3
I am not really a fan of Vincent Koch but the other options seem good.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jun 2019, 23:08
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23 Jun 2019, 23:08#4

Marvin Orie!!!!!!!!!!!! One forgets about certain players.eg Elstadt.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2019, 23:15
#5
23 Jun 2019, 23:15#5
I would have agreed about Koch, up until he stood well in the scrums in the NH playoffs. One assumes that portends well for the WC.....but there has to be a measure of doubt.
CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
23 Jun 2019, 23:19
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23 Jun 2019, 23:19#6
I'm delighted to see frans back in the mix. We need him at 12 in Japan Coetzee fucked his career up. Mike, please don't start dust farting again. Let's give frans our support.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2019, 00:04
#7
24 Jun 2019, 00:04#7
Well said Chip-ou.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
24 Jun 2019, 01:13
#8
24 Jun 2019, 01:13#8
It could be interesting having Frans Steyn combine with Pollard. Both have flyhalf and inside centre experience. 
I wonder if Rassie would consider Steyn at 15 - or if he is too slow at this stage for an outside back. 
Frans Steyn gives another kicking option for territory and poles. Steyn no longer has that massive boot he had- but he can still kick far. 

Frans Steyn is not perfect, but he has more brains than Delande and CartHuizen. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2019, 07:41
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24 Jun 2019, 07:41#9

Obviously a few useless players in the squad,   Fat Fransie is the outstanding zero-rated player to be called up. 

Mozxart will never learn ever.  After the 2015 WC - when there was at least 8 players who were unplayable in the squad  - the useless idiot supported Amla, Duminy and Stey n to be included in the CWC squad destroying SA image in cricket,  

He is so useless -as far as I know his contract with Montpellier has NOT been renewed.   And Jantjies was getting worse as the Super Rugby season progressed,   

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 13:38
#10
24 Jun 2019, 13:38#10

Before one applauds any return of Fransie let' s see what he weighs and what remains of the athlete he once was. The Fransie we saw here last was riven with injuries and badly overweight. he looked done.

Fran's career is one of the great tragedies of Bok rugby. A potential great who career collapsed early

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
24 Jun 2019, 14:07
#11
24 Jun 2019, 14:07#11
It seems Damien Willemse has been dropped. He was poor at flyhalf, and pretty average at fullback for the Stormers
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2019, 14:12
#12
24 Jun 2019, 14:12#12
Damian Willemse missed the last two games for the Stormers with a knee injury and will miss at least the next 2 weeks as well.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
24 Jun 2019, 14:51
#13
24 Jun 2019, 14:51#13
So perhaps Willemse will be back in the mix. However, at this stage he has not really done much to say he is worthy of the squad.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2019, 15:56
#14
24 Jun 2019, 15:56#14

SB

Willemse was NOT used at flyhaf by the Stormers =so get your facts u tp date before you talk BS as per no rmal/ 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
24 Jun 2019, 16:01
#15
24 Jun 2019, 16:01#15
@CleverIdiot,
Did Willemse play flyhalf in the first few matches? Also, he played flyhalf most of last season
Also, he played in both position - and ranged from average to crap. 
A good player at the lower levels with more time and space, but other than his step he has offered little to nothing so far for the Boks, or even for the Stormers.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2019, 18:58
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24 Jun 2019, 18:58#16
Mike I ask you civilly to produce proof of where I called for Dale Steyn and Duminy to be in the Proteas team, and where I called for van der Dussen to be excluded. Kindly produce the proof or refrain from lying.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jun 2019, 04:26
#17
25 Jun 2019, 04:26#17

Mozart 

Go back to the stage before and when the squad was announced and you will find your comment on reservations about the three - especially my own and even Denny's comments on the Amla issue.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jun 2019, 05:59
#18
25 Jun 2019, 05:59#18
I checked to see if I said anything like that. All I found was criticism of the way Dussen gave away his wicket in one match.....and a factual statement on Duminy's strike rate in another match.....nothing on Steyn. And nothing on the Dussen, Duminy or Steyn selections. Once again I must ask you to produce the evidence or withdraw your comments.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jun 2019, 06:27
#19
25 Jun 2019, 06:27#19

You have never checked anything as suggested.   Go and what you wrote before the squad was selected and afterwards as to selection of the squad.   Trying to hide your comments again,

By the way you criticized Amla once - very mildly about regaining his form - but for that comments you attacked De Kock constantly and viciously.  You are as per normal in delirium.   .

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