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Springbok Player assessment against Australia

Started by clevermike15 REPLIES308 VIEWS· 06 Sept 2014, 23:30
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Sept 2014, 23:30
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06 Sept 2014, 23:30#1

Bonzo the Apemoron gave an assessment of the performances of the Aussis thi morning - I will make him and the other two resident morons unhappy about how I see the performnce of the Springboks this morning:-


Willie le Roux   -   Sound at full baclk - but his kicking out oif habd was inaccurate  6/10

Cornal Hendricks  -   Serious defensive liability     -   4/10

Jan Serfontein -   Strong in defense and had a good run at one stage   6,5/10

Jean de Villiers -  Good defense - but nothing much else   -    6/10

Bryan Habana   -  Good ball carries - but gave away two penalties  -  6/10

Morne  Steyn - Poor kicking out of hand - horrible defense -  2,5/10

Ruan Pienaar -  Slow service - aimless out-of-hand kicking - lost ball possession  3/10  

Duane Vermeulen  -  Very hard worker   -   missed too many tackles - penalties given away - 6/10

Marcel Coetzee  -  Very hard worker - top performance  -  7/10

Francois Louw -  Very hard workker - top performance  -   7/10

Victor Mtafield -  Low work rate - ineffective tackling -  missed too may tackles  -  3/10

Eben Etzebeth -  Top performance in all-round play  -  8/10

Jannie du Plessis -  Poor scrumming - done nothing in other aspects of the game -  3/10

Adriaan Staruss -  Very quiet game - 5,5/10

Tendai Mtawarire -  Tried to deliver the goods  - 5,5 /10

     


  

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:03
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07 Sept 2014, 00:03#2
 The Beasts hands are terrible, when he dropped that ball 5m from Australia's line I almost lost it. Reminiscent of the Wales EOYT last year. 
Pienaar did make two good runs, but everything else was poor and the rating is correct. 
What rating did you give Vermeulen? He was awesome. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:27
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07 Sept 2014, 00:27#3
 Chezza
Sorry - I made a mistake there - I originally thought to give Vermeuen 7/10 - but he got carried away and gave away two penalties.   He missed too many tackles as well  - he missed 4 out of 17 tackle attempts.  Maybe I was too harsh on him and I have now changed ghis assessment to 6/10.
Thanks for raising the Mtawarire issue - I have change dhis ratibng to 5,5/10
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:27
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07 Sept 2014, 00:27#4
 Chezza
Sorry - I made a mistake there - I originally thought to give Vermeuen 7/10 - but he got carried away and gave away two penalties.   He missed too many tackles as well  - he missed 4 out of 17 tackle attempts.  Maybe I was too harsh on him and I have now changed ghis assessment to 6/10.
Thanks for raising the Mtawarire issue - I have change dhis ratibng to 5,5/10
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:31
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07 Sept 2014, 00:31#5
Here are:
Rugby 365 Ratings

Your mate Steyn got very low ratings CleverMike.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:39
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07 Sept 2014, 00:39#6
 Telling comment re Habana by Rugby 365
11 Bryan HabanaMade a few trademark runs to get his side on the front foot and did not deserve to sit in the sin bin in his 100th Test. 7/10
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Sept 2014, 00:41
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07 Sept 2014, 00:41#7
 Telling comment re Vermuelen by Rugby 365:8 Duane VermeulenA big peformance at the back of the scrum, he was everywhere on both attack and defence, making (perfectly legal) tackles, turnovers and carrying the ball up powerfully.8/10
Ou warped DUD and some other kbbs need to take note!!!

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
07 Sept 2014, 01:21
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07 Sept 2014, 01:21#8
 Bean Brain,   boks got off lightly against the Aussies but yr gunna get smoked in Wellington...sorry to be the harbinger of bad news but it's all down hill from here on in for Bok fans...culminating in a loss to Samoa in the RWC...
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
07 Sept 2014, 04:59
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07 Sept 2014, 04:59#9
 Ha ha so predictable Mike. I could have told you before the game that your ratings for Morne, Victor, Jannie, Cornal and co would all be sub 4's!!
Morne easily won the kicking battle. SA easily won the kicking battle.. Thats what put us in that strong position to win. A serious of dubious reffing calls (hell there was a few in the Argies v AB's game too) and a brain explosion to send Habana off really stretched a very tired Bok team. 
Not great use of the bench from Heynecke. Excellent use of the bench from Ewen!
Boks were out on their feet and replacement players had no impact! Yet we still managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Morne really messed up by missing touch. He didnt need any distance on the kick. We were 5 metres from our tryline. He needed to put the ball out around the 40m mark. Just a 35m gain which is a little chip by his standards. That would have allowed Habana back on and the Boks ball. We take around a min to walk to the lineout making the time around 78 mins. From there, we go to the front of the lineout and the ball stays with the forwards for 2 mins. Close the game out. Morne went for the miracle 50+ metre gain and it was a poor decision and even worse execution which is what you get from a tired player. Morne should have been experienced enough to know that but the much fresher Pat Lambie should have been tasked with putting that ball into touch!
I was cursing Morne last night after that too believe me but in all honesty, he didnt have a bad game. I saw one moment of really weak defence from him where he was run right through and never slowed the man down but truth be told, he was instrumental in putting us in a position to win that game. He dictated play for long periods in that game.
Its time that Heynecke looks at either of Juan De Jongh, Paul Jordaan or Sbura' Sithole at 13. Jan Serfontein was solid defensively but he offers no cohesion on attack. We need a live wire there. Juan De Jongh needs to be given a series of games instead of the usual one offs he gets. He needs to be allowed to settle into the position because he is our best 13 at the moment.
Anyway, with this result last night, this all but wraps up the 2014 edition in NZL's favour..
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Sept 2014, 22:01
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08 Sept 2014, 22:01#10
Hahaha....in Rugby 365 TOW we have....Jannie du Plessis and Cornell Hendricks. Bubbling under we have Victor. So let's look at the ratings from a biased fool for these three standout players.,....3, 4 and 3. What a laugh! 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2014, 22:09
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08 Sept 2014, 22:09#11
 When looking at the game a second time I thhink Jannie was a 6 - and Crincke Paper Matfield a 2,5.  That is more or less nearer the mark.    I have problems with Hendricks defence though and that remains my conviction.  However, he did score a try so let put him at 5,5.
Matfield a stand out player - any body who thinks that  has an asshole for a brain.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Sept 2014, 22:13
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08 Sept 2014, 22:13#12
So you were wrong.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2014, 23:28
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08 Sept 2014, 23:28#13
 
I was wrong in the case of Jannie and 100% right in the case of matfield  he was worthless.   I dd concentrate too much on defense in the case of Hendricks - so I have corrected it - he scired a try made for him by Serfontein.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2014, 23:28
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08 Sept 2014, 23:28#14
 
I was wrong in the case of Jannie and 100% right in the case of matfield  he was worthless.   I dd concentrate too much on defense in the case of Hendricks - so I have corrected it - he scired a try made for him by Serfontein.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 00:48
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09 Sept 2014, 00:48#15
Not according to five independent experts. Two of the five chose Thrush, two chose Matfield and one chose Whitelock. Maybe de Kooning gets the tie breaker. But Victor was basically a TOW alternative. Not ....lol....a three, you old fool.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Sept 2014, 01:21
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09 Sept 2014, 01:21#16
Mozartron
The diuds you get everywhere - when a writer writes the truth about Cricnkle Paper you crap all over him - but when they come up with crap they are correct.   But Victor was basically a TOW alternative - what a sick joke.
You are still too cowardly to answer why the rolling maul went absent with Crinckle Paper in the Tight 5.   So what will happen if Cricnckle Paper is selected for Saturday - the scrums will go awry on the side he is scrumming in and the rolling mauls will be the prrivilege of the All blacks and not the Springboks.   His tackles will be even weaker than they were on Saturday and more players will just bump him out of the way - also as happened on  Saturday.
There are enough hyoe about that show pony to fill the rugby world.   If he and Morne and Ruan is in the team we are going to lose b ig time on Saturday.
  
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