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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
20 Jul 2019, 23:58
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20 Jul 2019, 23:58#1

Rob Houwing, Sport24 chief writer - Here’s how I rated the Boks at Ellis Park: 

Warrick Gelant: 7

Overcooked a touch-finder early on, but that didn’t deter the slippery fullback. Some pleasing intrusions into the line, deft use of his swerve, and a broad sense that he wanted to help boss things strategically. Important tackle on a marauding Michael Hooper late in contest.

S’bu Nkosi: 6.5

Had some second-fiddle moments in high-ball contests with his marker, the Aussies’ 1.91m Reece Hodge. But otherwise showed composure and constructive energy, including in issuing final pass for scrumhalf Jantjies’ first try … and later getting in that column himself.

Jesse Kriel: 6

Did little wrong, though also no special own potency on attack. Made his tackles, and engineered one alert poach in second half.

Andre Esterhuizen: 5  

Not all bad, but one of the less accomplished Bok performers on a collectively vibrant day. Sterling yards in lead-up to first Bok try, though blotted copybook with rash high tackle that led to sin-binning (period when Wallabies cashed in with a dot-down).

Makazole Mapimpi: 6

Despite conceding five tries, Wallaby defence was outstandingly resolute and organised at times … and they’d clearly done their homework on the hot-stepper; space seldom opened up for him. Brave last-ditch Mapimpi tackle very nearly thwarted a flying Dane Haylett-Petty en route to his try. Maybe lured infield a tad too much on defence …

Elton Jantjies: 6.5

Streets better than on his last start for Boks on SA soil, in the slush against England in Cape Town last year. Didn’t immediately dictate, but conviction soared as game progressed. Goaled every one of five conversions and missed just one, longish-range penalty which fell short. Defence also seemed to get progressively steelier; some unsung, brave interventions in second half.

Herschel Jantjies: 9

Utterly rousing debut. Began Test life with a well-weighted box kick, and things just mushroomed in all the right ways for the Stormers’ pocket dynamo from there. Great anticipation, assured handling, gutsy defence … and, especially importantly, a fine service and wonderful sniping/linking. His second try was a blind-side beauty, one for any tries-of-the-season compilation video. 

Francois Louw: 8.5

Those inclined to believe the Bath-based, seasoned campaigner was a spent force internationally would have been forced to think again, and then some: this turned out to be perhaps one of his best showings in all 66 Tests. Constant menace over the ball - including steal to initiate first Bok try - and also vitally helped slow down some Aussie recycles at a time when Bok defence was routinely being stretched in first period.

Pieter-Steph du Toit: 7.5

When Du Toit gets involved in play, it is so often to profound effect - certainly was the case again here. Made some crunching tackles (though he was a little at fault in one Wallaby breakout for an eventually disallowed try through forward pass) and even one memorable, unusual – for him - deft chip ahead after a personal rampage, shortly preceding Lood de Jager’s try.

Rynhardt Elstadt: 6.5

Obvious relish for his maiden Bok appearance, and customary earthy physicality wasn’t always matched by precision, at least initially. But he was getting increasingly assertive before his replacement (by Marcell Coetzee) right on hour mark … and also kept his sometimes costly temper admirably in check.

Lood de Jager: 6.5

Credible showing for someone who has had only had some 50 minutes (last weekend) of Currie Cup action after a few months’ layoff. Bagged seven lineouts - more than anyone in the Test - but guilty of one rare aerial fumble that led to turnover and another slightly inaccurate provision of the ball to his scrumhalf.

Eben Etzebeth: 7

First half seemed to confirm that he’s been short of a recent gallop. But that valued engine of his warmed up very nicely in second 40. Produced important pass out of a tackle in lead-up to Nkosi’s try, and made great ground for one key cover tackle on the touchline. Captained the cause coolly.

Trevor Nyakane: 6.5

As the all-important tighthead anchor-man, must take credit for a dominant Bok performance at that set-piece, even if Boks might want a bit more of his carrying potential to come to the fore next time.

Bongi Mbonambi: 5.5

Typically tigerish a lot of the time, though generally a bit short of his A-game here and lineout throwing didn’t always go meticulously to plan. Leaked an off-side penalty.

Tendai Mtawarira: 6.5

Was a little quieter than usual in open play; the “Beaaast” chant was seldom summoned on the stands. But the 108-capper pulled his weight at scrum time -- including a killer personal shove just before his substitution in 48th minute - and had a build-up hand in first SA try.

Standout substitute:

Frans Steyn: 7.5

Welcome back, big guy … the hefty utility back earned 28 minutes in the second half (his first appearance in just over two years for the Boks) and oozed directness, urgency and raw power in the inside centre channel, including giving flyhalf Jantjies renewed confidence nearby. That said, most of the reserves contributed quite fulsomely.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
21 Jul 2019, 00:12
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21 Jul 2019, 00:12#2

The correct ratings.. 

-- Sharkbok, RuckersForum chief writer - 

Warrick Gelant: 6.5

Average, had a few decent runs. Was missing on defence on some Ozzie breaks

S’bu Nkosi: 7.0

Good on attack, but exposed under the high ball. 

Jesse Kriel: 5.5

Did little wrong, because he done very little period.

Andre Esterhuizen: 3 

One decent contribution, otherwise useless. Frans Steyn schooled him. The team seemed to improve when Esterhuizen got a yellow card. 

Makazole Mapimpi: 5.5

Done very little. 

Elton Jantjies: 7

He had good service from Herschel - and controlled the game. A solid performance. Could combine well with Frans Steyn. 

Herschel Jantjies: 9.5

Man of the match. Done nothing wrong. Took to test rugby like a duck to water. Good combination of quick service, while keeping the defence guessing with snipes around the rucks. Frans Steyn was heavily involved in his second try. The scrumhalf cupboard has been bare for some time, so it is great to see him in the mix. He is 23, which is probably around the right age to make a Springbok debut in the open division. 

Francois Louw: 8.5

He owned the breakdown, turning over or slowing Ozzie possession at will.

Pieter-Steph du Toit: 7.5

Solid. 

Rynhardt Elstadt: 5

Average, and looked like a player out of position. 

Lood de Jager: 6.5

Good thinking play controlled a good attacking movement by showing awareness to put his foot over the ball at the ruck, to keep the Ozzie defence in check while the scrumhalf had time to clear.

Eben Etzebeth: 7

Looked good, appeared to also captain the team well. Showed his physicality and bulled the Ozzies.

Trevor Nyakane: 6.5

The scrums looked solid.

Bongi Mbonambi: 5

Average

Tendai Mtawarira: 6

Scummed well, otherwise absent. 


Standout substitute:

Frans Steyn: 7.5

Showed that South Africa may well have a test standard inside centre. Much better than Carthuizen, or the revolving Delande. It seems Frans Steyn will be on the bench next week against the All Blacks to challenge for a starting position as the season progresses.  He is the most effective crashballer in world rugby. Allways takes a few backline players to rope him in, and the ball is always retained as quick front foot possession for the next wave of attack. Sometimes crash ball is the best option in a tight situation with no space- as long as it is done properly. Was also a link passer in the best bok backline move of the match. 

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
21 Jul 2019, 00:12
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21 Jul 2019, 00:12#3
Mike See Frans rating. I agree.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2019, 04:29
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21 Jul 2019, 04:29#4

Sure Steyn Crashbaled and made NO Tackles and mi ssed 1.   I do not think he deserves anything more than 5.5 for that effort.  Was better than Esterhuizeen - but that says nothing extra since Esterhuizen was very poor.   Steyn passed the ball exactly ONCE and crashballed 6 times - bad news,   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Jul 2019, 04:54
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21 Jul 2019, 04:54#5

So now Bongi is blamed for Lood's inability to catch a ball? The plodding oaf was so slow to move his hands that Bongi hit him in the face! He was also beaten to the ball a couple of times. A nice heavy throw to the ground which nearly resulted in a turnover. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2019, 05:33
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21 Jul 2019, 05:33#6

So idiot speak at its loudest again.   Not a word about the strength shown by De Jager when scoring that try,    

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Jul 2019, 08:30
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21 Jul 2019, 08:30#7

Steyn made at least 2 tackles that I can recall, as reflected by the stats at full time before the post-game adjustments.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2019, 09:44
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21 Jul 2019, 09:44#8

I rathe r trust ESPN stats than your imagination

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Jul 2019, 10:33
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21 Jul 2019, 10:33#9

You trust ESPN until you don't like what they say. Two weeks ago you told me their numbers were "make belf BS", that I was a "BSer idoiut" for posting them. Then, you were the guy who said video evidence is a gross fabrication of the truth! Whichever shape doesn't fit the hole is what you'll go with.   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
21 Jul 2019, 16:03
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21 Jul 2019, 16:03#10
Here we have 2 sides of the coin. 
1  CleverMike denying that Frans Steyn played well,2. Augenoffner saying that Carthuizen had a good game.
It is very clear that Frans Steyn will make the squad and Carthuizen will miss the bus to the world cup. Frans Steyn put in a better inside performance than Dumblande or Carthuizen during 2018. 
Frans Steyn could walk into a tackle, and could carry half the Australian backline on his back while driving forward.
If a team has a small flyhalf or/and centre, Frans Steyn could win a game just by running a line between them- and sucking in the defence, creating an overlap and quick front football for the Boks to run onto.
It is clear that Frans Steyn is still an international standard, whereas Carhuizen and Dumblande will never make this grade.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Jul 2019, 16:06
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21 Jul 2019, 16:06#11

I challenge you to disprove my points in my ratings. There's where the rugby debate part happens. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
21 Jul 2019, 16:22
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21 Jul 2019, 16:22#12
There is no challenge. You are the only one in the world who believes Carthuizen had a good game. 
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Jul 2019, 16:24
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21 Jul 2019, 16:24#13

I stated clear points. They are either wrong, or they are right. You are presently in the camp of Lügnerin who have yet to provide any insight. Telling someone they are stupid or wrong doesn't mean they are stupid or wrong. It's actually quite lazy. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
21 Jul 2019, 18:35
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21 Jul 2019, 18:35#14
Where have you stated the points? On another thread? I also posted comments on other threads, but I am not going to trawl through various postings to collate all of my comments, and then yours.
In summary, Esterhuizen had one good pass that helped set up the first try. Frans Steyn dominated the advantage line, whereas Esterhuizen made the worst unforced error in the match when the ball bounced off him, before he could even understand it was a pass to him.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2019, 19:16
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21 Jul 2019, 19:16#15

AO  - you have been insulted for idiocy enough this week  so I will be civilized and say you are playing tag with the truth and missed totally  what I wrote.   Misleading - stats can give an indication of what happened in a series of games.  Frans Steyn was a series defense liability in Super Rugby for three seasons and the lack of defense yesterday confirms that it is still the case.   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Jul 2019, 20:10
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21 Jul 2019, 20:10#16

In my rating thread. As per the pass from Elton? He obviously wasn't the go to man for that movement. He was drifting further out. Elton made a ball call. 

As for the worst unforced error in the game? That surely has to belong to Lood, who messed up another lineout by being too slow limbed to prevent the accurate pass from Bongi hitting him in the face. I could cite a few lineouts. Or how about the forward pass short ball from Reinach. Seriously? He can't pass accurately for one or two metres? 

If Andre doesn't dominate Kerevi, the Boks don't win this game. It's that simple. Australia put the game on his shoulders with a big midfield and it spluttered. Fancy that, three of the most maligned players - Andre, Eben, Louw - make the decisive contributions. What a bitter pill to swallow. 

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