Springbok Squad: 1st Test team announced

Springbok squad for the International season:

Props: Thomas du Toit (Sharks), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Sharks), Ox Nche (Sharks), Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92)

Hookers: Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Sharks)

Locks: Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks), Eben Etzebeth (Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Bulls), Marvin Orie (Stormers)

Loose forwards: Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Marcell Coetzee (Bulls), Siya Kolisi (Sharks), Elrigh Louw (Bulls), Evan Roos (Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers)

Utility forwards: Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse), Deon Fourie (Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat)

Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks), Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Grant Williams (Sharks)

Flyhalves: Johan Goosen (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes), Handre Pollard (Montpellier Herrault)

Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Munster), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles)

Outside Backs: Aphelele Fassi (Sharks), Warrick Gelant (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks)

Utility Backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Damian Willemse (Stormers)

I know Deon Fourie has been playing out of his skin, but at 35, relatively small and didn’t cover at hooker when the Stormers needed him. Not sure if it is a wasted cap or Rassie just bringing in an hungry old dog to show the young pups what determination looks like very much in the same mould as schalc Britz. 

I have know idea what Orri and Moerat is doing in the squad other than paint by numbers. 

Glad to see the new caps and Coetzee there. 

Will be interesting to see who gets picked for the Whales test and A games. 

Salmaan Moerat and Marvin orie are not in the same class as Eben for example....I have not seen much of joseph dweba so cant really say.....but Johan Grobelaar is a very good hooker.....Wilco louw for me is a immensely strong scrummager, player and don't understand his omission....mchunu is not in the same class as louw and although Vincent is good, he is a bit older already....looking at guys like Simelane, Rickus, Ruan Nel dont understand Jesse kriel's inclusion??? Although Willie is not my favourite,  his inclusion can guide the younger Guys so that is ok I guess....Only 2 flyhalfs with Goosen most probably joining as soon as his fit....Libbok is a pity and unlucky not to be picked....Deon plays with heart, and even at 35 he is hungry....but looking at Butelezi, Tshituka with there form, it's hard to understand.  Otherwise it looks good.....as I said in different post, dont want the new guys to turn into bench warmers like Du preez twins and elstadt....what he is doing there I dont really know....Roos must start before Wiese and Pieter Stef must be eased in with Erigh Louw starting....Any case let's see what happens.....was rather hoping for Ireland or French tour than Wales....would have given us  real stiff opposition from the start, not to take anything away from Wales and I hope they come here with a real mission and give us Tough games to prepare for NZ, OZ....if we beat them to easy it won't be good for our preparation for the tough ones later on.

Mpower, you bozos fight over pallet swaps. Everyone else can see it, wake up!

I'm not a big fan of Wiese as he reminds me of a flat track bully, but watching him play for Leicester I can understand why he is the next in line. On stats alone he is above Roos. He makes the same amount of meters, maybe less line breaks and off loads but his work rate and tackle count is right up there. He also has the bonus of knowing the system. So it makes sense that he retains his spot. Our backrow would probably be 8. Wiese, PSDT and Kolisi, but not sure if PSDT is in form as he didn't look  that sharp in top rugby and missing some series game time due injuries. 

I would love to see the likes of Roos, Louw and Coetzee start but that is wishful thinking. 

Also, the boks have to field 50 % players of colour and that is the only reason Moerat and Orri is in the team. 

Dweba is an explosive hooker with good pace, i rate him and probably better than grobler in open play but I also think Grobbler has been our form hooker. Bongi is till producing the goods but his lineout throws were awful and probably cost the sharks a few games due to not getting set piece dominance. 

We are going to continue to see the likes of Ox, Bongi and Nykane start with our best front row on the bench. Look at Kittshoff, he played the entire game on Saturday. Where as the likes of Kolis and Ox can't last a full game. I do think there is value in keeping players as long as you can on the field as it helps with the rhythm of the team. 

I also feel sorry for Phepsi and Vincent, but I think Vincent is not eligible yet to play for SA

I almost Forgot about RG Snyman...." The Viking" needs to come back...his size and mobility and the forward momentum he gets + the way he free,s his hands in a tackle to offload is superb....much better than orie....hope he can get back into form and come back to Bok Squad where he belongs.

Red Rose you still have not got over that WC loss to the "Yarpies" the hurt must be deep.

The Yarpies in that final outplayed you Poms at all levels.

Keep trying you loosers.

Keep living off scraps. That's the life blood of Bok rugby, the one off wins here and there that keep you thinking you are still relevant. Who has the winning trend over the Boks huh? We do. And it's "loser", "looser" is what yarpy arses become after we finish with them. Have a nice day.

"The national rugby union teams of England and South Africa (the Springboks) have been playing each other in Test rugby since 1906, and, by November 2021, had met in 44 Test matches. South Africa lead the series by 26 wins to 16, with 2 matches drawn. "- get your facts straight you Tosser.....do us all a favour and shut the fuck up...go use your mouth as a Bog Roll and flush yourself down the Toilet  

Do we have to educate you fricks on everything? We build a civilization for you and you fuck that up, I cant help you on that one but I can teach you about the state of your rugby. We have won 3 of the last 4 tests between us. 

We won the one that counted most.

"We build a civilization for you and you fuck that up,"

Er, no...we built it and you lot did your best to fck it up...but let’s let bygones be...

Well good to see Esterhozen there…after he gave Vunipola his calling card I guess even Harrassmiss finally twigged. He beat the most defenders from either team and made the joint most offloads….the man is productive.

With regard to Wilco Louw he was really rolled up in a crucial scrum when Quins still had a shot. I’m not sure why but he almost seems to have gone backwards.

In which game was that and against who did he scrum?

 Orie, Elstadt and Fourie are not good selections. 
Elstadt is proven to have no thinking ability. A slow loose forward that is not worse at lock. Orie is a joke.

Both creatine twins missed the selection bus. 

In the Saracens/Quins match at about minute 70. I believe Mako Vunipola was still on for that scrum.

It was the Semi Final...I tried to watch that scrum, but In the highlights it's not shown... Wilco came on as a replacement...and Mako got a Yellow card, also not sure if he was the guy scrumming...but ok sometimes even the best props in the world can get pushed back, generally the games i watched in the premiership, wilco destroyed loosehead props....still worth investing in him.

It was Eroni Mawi that replaced Vunipola late in the game, that forced Wilco on the back foot in that scrum.

It was Eroni Mawi that replaced Vunipola late in the game, that forced Wilco on the back foot in that scrum.

Sorry double post

It looks  like  if you want to get selected that you will have to come back and play  in the URC. There are 45 spots open per season and playing abroad makes it much harder. Only players that stand out in their respective leagues get selected like Wiese and Esterhuizen who have been clocking up MOM week in and week out. Tyrone green was really unlucky not to get the nod as he has been the standout 15 in the English Premier league these last couple of season. 

The Kreatine twins played well at times but looks like Roos , Louw and Coetzee got the not there even though they both have been capped. 

But I do think if we can get 10 or 20 players abroad to come back that our rugby teams would be so much stronger. Would love to see us dominate the French and English teams. 

It is great that we have two teams in the URC but I think Leinster and Munster put all their effort into the European cup and therefor were weaker in the URC finals. 

Red Nose,

                The English history and occupation in African countries and India is nothing to be proud of.

                 Amen.

Especially the Zulu and Boer Wars...and then over correcting by letting previous colonies like Zim go to sh!t...

So the genius called Harrassmiss leaves out the Deysel twins again.

Saffex, your are right. I  so agree on your list and felt that there were better 9's and definitely agree  with you on that. As I said before, not a fan of Wiese, but he is our most consistent 8 this year on stats.

The only problem with your team is that it will tank Rassies KPIs that is his 50/50 representation. 

Moersegat and Marvellous Marvin Orie are the worst locks at the moment. Moersegat also have been yellow carded the most in the URC. Don't want him near a bok team

Powerful pack my arse! Big slow fatties with no skills. All the same shit. 

I would if I could because I'm so fucking sexy. 

Well Mr. Sexy, by folding you double, you can at least Blow yourself 

Too much muscle. 

The " Big slow Fatties " in the Bok Squad, can definitely help you with that 

Red Rose, you actually made me laugh with that sexy comment 

He's a hoot Becs...the "English" Saffex of this board in some respects, but is he all that English indeed?...not that it matters...