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Springbok team for Saturday . . .

Started by Rooinek11 REPLIES988 VIEWS· 21 Sept 2021, 12:05
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Sept 2021, 12:05
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21 Sept 2021, 12:05#1

South Africa


15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Trevor Nyakane


Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn


Oh dear . . .

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
21 Sept 2021, 12:43
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21 Sept 2021, 12:43#2

I  have been resisting calling it out, but these quotas are hurting us right now. What a pathetic selection here. 

Great to see they  have gone back to the 4 / 3 split but other than Kittshoff and Marx, don't see any of these players making a difference. 

So lomp is back, Qwagga at in the team, very light  pack. We need real grunt and a proper seven that can pack a punch, not this retreaded  backline player posing as a forward. 

I still don't understand what Trevor is doing in the team. He hasn't done anything. 

Rassie and Niena has painted themselves into  a corner here. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Sept 2021, 12:55
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21 Sept 2021, 12:55#3

Hamburger is a better tighthead. Are they really that desperate to get the colour mix right?

Rather have the useless Kwagga at 6 in place of the wing Kolisi.

Mostert should have started in place of the weed they've selected at 5.

Give the captaincy to Vermeulen.

There is just too much wrong with this side.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:10
#4
21 Sept 2021, 14:10#4

Kwagga is probably in the team to add some pace to the back row and be more competitive at the breakdown. 

Good to see Corrie has been dropped, he was absolutely hopeless against Australia. He is not a test-level player.

The tight 5 looks good, except not starting Marx which is stupid. 

Elton Jantjies comes in as a backup kicker. Perhaps if/when he gets onto the pitch, Pollard will shift to 12. 

Delande persists... If he plays badly again, he will be subbed, hopefully...

Damien Willemse is gone, and in comes Frans Steyn. 

Nkosi also lingers on the right-wing, despite this being the weak spot in the Bok defense. 

Morne Steyn is still given the bird. In the current one-dimensional Bok game plan, this would have suited him. 




AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:51
#5
21 Sept 2021, 14:51#5

Front row, Lood, entire midfield are questionnable. Thor should have been dropped for Wiese, but for that very stupid shoulder charge. Reinach is better than Faf. Not much more we can do than drop Damian for Frans. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:25
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21 Sept 2021, 15:25#6

This is a team to please all the critics….Lomp for those who believe he adds more grunt….Kwagga for those who want a fetcher and to take heat off Kolisi who can’t fetch…all the quotas in the front row.

I don’t think this coaching team has understood that we are in a bit of a crisis….no more glow. Marx and Kitshoff needed to be starting. Morne should have been on the bench….what, at the 70th minute Jantjies is going to come on to throw pop passes?

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:50
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21 Sept 2021, 15:50#7

Just watched Use it or loose it where Schalk Buger and Jean De Villiers interview PSDT. Looks like we  are definitely missing  Rassie. The  players are not being  won over by Niena, can't seem to get them motivated. 

Heavens knows what Stick and Davids is really doing as coaches. We lost our forwards coach, now we have a defence coach as our head coach.  

Rassie needs to catch a wakeup. Bring back Jake

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Sept 2021, 17:02
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21 Sept 2021, 17:02#8
Oh boy imagine believing that Lood does not add more grunt than Orie and Mostert Unbelievable
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 17:12
#9
21 Sept 2021, 17:12#9

Not starting Marx makes no sense. Not sure if this is transformation related. 

Bongi is a very good player, but his form has not been good in 2021. 

Better to start with Marx and try set the tempo from the outset. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
21 Sept 2021, 17:47
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21 Sept 2021, 17:47#10

Enough with the window dressing. Rassie has stripped it back to its basics to minimise error by players hence the very  simple 10 man rugby, or should we say 9 man rugby. This allows  inferior  players  to get on  the pitch. 

You can teach a player to tackle and fit into a defensive system but you can't get away when basic skills are lacking. 

What we really lack is creating  or attacking space. We don't have the skills of players that can run good angles, draw defenders and pass the ball into space. Willie use to be able to do that. Am can  be great but not seen anything on Dud. Pollard has had some clanger passes too. 

But unfortunately our best team is in  Europe and too white to meet Rassies KPI's 

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
21 Sept 2021, 18:41
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21 Sept 2021, 18:41#11

It's all about meeting the ANC code kingcorn.

Agree with you about Trevor, but what the hell is Malherbe doing on the field as well.

I would have thought that they would have chanced it with Elton starting seeing that Pollard is missing so many kicks.

Perhaps both Jantjies should have started.

But I expect the AB's to come out and fire from both barrels.

Oops.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
21 Sept 2021, 18:54
#12
21 Sept 2021, 18:54#12

With the odds stacked against the Boks it is worth wagering a $100 on them to win.

Good odds available.

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