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Springboks set to win the Rugby Championship?

Started by clevermike36 REPLIES605 VIEWS· 27 Jul 2019, 11:51
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 11:51
#1
27 Jul 2019, 11:51#1

The beginning of the series they were given no chance by the Mozart idiort set and the attack on Erasmus was endless.


However, at this stage SA has a 14 point difference advantage over New Zealand - but most importantly the Springboks have 7 points and New Zealand 6 points on the log.


If SA beat the Argentinians they will win the  RC trophy.


Let us dearly remind the members in the 2015 series the Springboks lost all three tests, now they have  win and a draw - so is it not time that the idiot squad on site apologize to Erasmus for their vicious attacks on him personally..      

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 11:56
#2
27 Jul 2019, 11:56#2

What Rassie & co. are getting right is the rush defense. It creaked a bit at times today but they held on to shut NZ out every time they looked like establishing overlaps on the outside. Only Barrett's pace got them through once.

With regards to attack the Boks are still a big fat zero out back. There's nothing constructive or smart going on, it looks a shambolic mess.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:02
#3
27 Jul 2019, 12:02#3

Pakie, we had a few moments in the first half. If the invisible man caught that Willie pass, it would have been a try!


Maaik, we must still beat Argie with a bonus point...New Zealand is going to destroy the Ozzies.

Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:07
#4
27 Jul 2019, 12:07#4
We have to get Fransie into the starting line up. We look so settled and composed with him. And his boot will come in handy in tight games. It’s a bit of a no brainer.
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:09
#5
27 Jul 2019, 12:09#5
Agree flash. He seems to have sorted his attitude problem out. I reckon Rassie will bring out the best of him, much like JW did. Don’t you agree mike?
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:09
#6
27 Jul 2019, 12:09#6

Perhaps the invisible man did score for us, but no one saw him doing so

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:12
#7
27 Jul 2019, 12:12#7

I guess we have to take into account that there were a number of players on both sides who lacked match sharpness, having not played in weeks.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:13
#8
27 Jul 2019, 12:13#8

I'm not sold on Fransie yet...neither on his improved attitude...let's see. Dom Alende didn't do much wrong today....unless Rassie wants to see if Fransie can go all 80, I'll leave things as they are, but Mapimpi must go.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:27
#9
27 Jul 2019, 12:27#9

DA was safe on defense and the same old predictable blunt force on attack, but I'm not sure how much defensive pressure he generated. Both Frans and Esterhuizen are very active in rushing the line, but I will check on the replay.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:52
#10
27 Jul 2019, 12:52#10

Duplication

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 12:52
#11
27 Jul 2019, 12:52#11

FD

And totally bugger up the backline - Steyn is not up to standard and did Zero today to prove that he was capable of better after last weeks zero rated performance as well. ..  

Draad

Add to that Vermeulen must go. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:06
#12
27 Jul 2019, 13:06#12

I would make the following changes to the team for the trest against Argentina:-

15   Willie le Roux

14  Cheslyn Kolbe

13  Jesse Kriel

12   Damian de Allende

11   Sbu Nkosi

10   Handre Pollard

  9    Herschell Jantjies

  8    Marcell Coetzee

   7   P-S du  Toit

   6    Kwagga Smith

   5    Lood de Jager

   4    Eben Etzebeth

   3    Frans Malherbe

   2     Malcolm Marx

   1    Steven Kitshoff

Replacements:-

  16   Bongi Mbonambi

  17   Tendai Mtawrira

  18    Trevor Nyakane

  19    RG Snyman

  20    Francois Louw

  21    Cobus  Reinach

  22    Frans Steyn or please find a player that can still play rugby

  23    Lukhanjo Am

Not ideal - since we are stuck  with Steyn as the only alternative option at center.   He did squat in the Aussie test and just a bout the same today. 

       

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:27
#13
27 Jul 2019, 13:27#13
Bullshit Frans adds zero value other than seeking contact. We don’t need a slow old man at 12, who no longer has any creativity
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XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:49
#14
27 Jul 2019, 13:49#14

Cos duh Allende did much else but head down crash. 

TOOTHLESS!!!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:51
#15
27 Jul 2019, 13:51#15
At least he makes metres and has more speed and has the agility to step something old man Frans lost a few seasons ago
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:51
#16
27 Jul 2019, 13:51#16

We have no creative 12s, Dave.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 13:57
#17
27 Jul 2019, 13:57#17

Seven runs for 16 m. No clean breaks or defenders beaten.

Two passes and penalised twice. 

He MIGHT have the agility and speed to evade tackles but not the brain power. Head down. Crash. Squeeze ball. Yawn!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 16:07
#18
27 Jul 2019, 16:07#18

Xavi - this is rich

Your normal attack on De Allende who gave away NO penalties is funny.   The supporters at the breakdowns were the ones who gave away penalties  - get real for a change.

De Allende did not hang onto the ball like you claimed - the support at the two breakdowns was late and the supporters gave away the penalties.   What you said is accordingly utter BS.

Then there is your dead quiet about the real bugger-ups made by Vermeulen - so think again before you write incorrect info on site.         

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 16:07
#19
27 Jul 2019, 16:07#19

Xavi - this is rich

Your normal attack on De Allende who gave away NO penalties is funny.   The supporters at the breakdowns were the ones who gave away penalties  - get real for a change.

De Allende did not hang onto the ball like you claimed - the support at the two breakdowns was late and the supporters gave away the penalties.   What you said is accordingly utter BS.

Then there is your dead quiet about the real bugger-ups made by Vermeulen - so think again before you write incorrect info on site.         

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XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 19:10
#20
27 Jul 2019, 19:10#20
Duh Allende was penalised twice for holding on. 
Dry your eyes liar. It's impossible to give away a penalty for missing a clear out or not being able to shift some one. The penalties were for holding on the ground.
How can you even critique anyone when you can't comprehend the basics.
Oh and eat a bowl of dicks.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:19
#21
27 Jul 2019, 20:19#21

Duh A is no superstar, but still better than any other 12 we have. ATM I can live with Fransie on the bench or starting the odd match, be is there because his experience brings a bit of calmness in tight matches at the death...he won't last a whole match...starting him will waste his best possible contribution...we need another option at 12...Esterhuizen is Fransie without the xp...pity we didn't try willemse there.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:29
#22
27 Jul 2019, 20:29#22

Xavi, it's "bag"!

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:44
#23
27 Jul 2019, 20:44#23

Surely you dont eat your breakfast out of a bag Draad?? 

Heathen!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:50
#24
27 Jul 2019, 20:50#24

Xavi

You said De Allende hung onto the ball and gave away 2 penalties.  That is a totally false description of what happened,  The penalties was given away by the players doing the all protection and recovery.  The ESPN stats also confirmed what I wrote, So learn something about the game and rules for a change.        

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:50
#25
27 Jul 2019, 20:50#25

Xavi

You said De Allende hung onto the ball and gave away 2 penalties.  That is a totally false description of what happened,  The penalties was given away by the players doing the all protection and recovery.  The ESPN stats also confirmed what I wrote, So learn something about the game and rules for a change.        

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:50
#26
27 Jul 2019, 20:50#26

Xavi

You said De Allende hung onto the ball and gave away 2 penalties.  That is a totally false description of what happened,  The penalties was given away by the players doing the all protection and recovery.  The ESPN stats also confirmed what I wrote, So learn something about the game and rules for a change.        

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:55
#27
27 Jul 2019, 20:55#27

Xavie, hou op kak soek...I drink my breakfast from a bottle!

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:56
#28
27 Jul 2019, 20:56#28
Lol Draad
@ liar Mike,Have a 2nd helping.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:58
#29
27 Jul 2019, 20:58#29

Aag Maaik, give it a rest...DdA was part of that lost possession...it's our game plan and it happens when you play top teams...especially NZ.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 20:58
#30
27 Jul 2019, 20:58#30

Why is the penalty for holding on then???

Bro, do you even rugby??

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Jul 2019, 21:09
#31
27 Jul 2019, 21:09#31

Ou Mike rewriting the rugby law books: penalties for holding on now goes against players doing "protection and recovery". 

So by the way Mike, ESPN has so far scored 1 penalty against DA, not 0.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2019, 22:10
#32
27 Jul 2019, 22:10#32

Look

There is a case of players hanging on to balls where penalties are given away.  In cases such as these the referee gives an indication o holdiong onto the ball as the reason for the penalty.  

The ref indicated clearly that in the case of the one Vermeulen was penalized and in the case of the other one Smith was penalized,   In both cases the referee clearly indicated the reason for the pen alty and in both cases holding on was  not indicated as the reason for the penalty.   

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
27 Jul 2019, 22:13
#33
27 Jul 2019, 22:13#33

We're  talking about the penalties Damian gave away not Thor or Smith.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2019, 12:05
#34
28 Jul 2019, 12:05#34

Xavi

A bit of advice - the ref ruled that the supporting players at the breakdown was penalized - not De Allende for holding on and that is confirmed by ESPN stats..  De Allende gave away NO penalties - but you are obviously following your own madcap idea - so carry on with it - it will  get you nowhere. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2019, 12:33
#35
28 Jul 2019, 12:33#35

Pakie

They updated there stats and the last time it was no penalty against De Allende - so I accept the updated version.  

But there were more penalties given away by Smith and Vermeulen - but that was not mentioned by you - the attack was all on De Allende and praising of Steyn - wo did squat to justify the glorification.  Keep it up - you are a joke.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
28 Jul 2019, 12:53
#36
28 Jul 2019, 12:53#36

Where have I glorified Steyn? I've simply been pointing out the double standard you apply in judging him vs judging DA. I am downloading the game for review, can't comment on the performance of either beyond what the stats say until I've reviewed the game in peace to check exactly how and what they contributed.

the ref ruled that the supporting players at the breakdown was penalized

What were the supporting players penalized for?

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Jul 2019, 16:56
#37
28 Jul 2019, 16:56#37
Another priceless thread! 
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