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Springboks Venter: Boks showed great improvement in 2017

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Feb 2018, 17:09
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02 Feb 2018, 17:09#1

Ex Sport 24

ape Town - Former Springbok consultant Brendan Venterinsists the 2017 season was not as bad as many believe.

STATS: How Coetzee's tenure stacks up

Venter, whose official role with the team was defence and exits specialist, shared his views on Friday after it was announced that SA Rugby and Springbok head coach Allister Coetzee had parted ways.

During Coetzee’s two-year tenure, the Springboks won only 11 out of 25 Tests for a 44% win record.

Venter, however, believes the Boks showed progression in the 2017 season in which they won seven, lost four and drew two Tests.

Venter took to Twitter after hearing of Coetzee’s departure on Friday.

He said the Boks can take a lot from the lessons learnt and also called on SA Rugby to sit down with Coetzee and ask him for input on how the Springboks can be improved.


Contrary to popular belief the Boks showed great improvement last year. Won 7. Drew 2. Lost 2 by a point and lost 2 matches badly. This young Bok side was outplayed on only 2 out of 13 matches. With a bit of luck they could have won 11 out of 13.

Personally I have never believed Coetzee was up to much as a coach but has V enter a point here?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Feb 2018, 17:11
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02 Feb 2018, 17:11#2

Venter says:

The point i am trying to make is that this group has real potential. Last year was not wasted. They learnt a lot and if new coaches back this group they could become world beaters.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
02 Feb 2018, 17:24
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02 Feb 2018, 17:24#3
you can only sugarcoat and polish a terd so much. Venter has already made his exit strategy, and now hailing himself as the difference between the two years. Probably does not want to get pulled down with the Coetzee ship and get associated with the failure. 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
02 Feb 2018, 18:00
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02 Feb 2018, 18:00#4

That is the past. Usually to fiddle on that.

Now is the future, steps toward SA rugby domination over the world. Which means steps toward termination of rugby in SA.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Feb 2018, 00:15
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03 Feb 2018, 00:15#5
Nope....look at the YE tour. They lost badly to Ireland and Wales and just scraped past France by 1 point (that logic cuts both ways). There was no improving momentum. In fact if you exclude the first 5 tests against the basket case French and Bargie teams....we won 2 of our last 8 games...against Italy and, you guessed it, France. We never beat a decent team all year. This is the same kind of defensive logic that saw Venter castigate Bok fans. If he was really the coach, which seems likely, he did an awful job.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
03 Feb 2018, 00:47
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03 Feb 2018, 00:47#6

Some excellent points Moz. I am tempted to copy and past them on the Twitter profile of twitter.com/BrendanVenter

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Feb 2018, 01:23
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03 Feb 2018, 01:23#7
Feel free....no pride of authorship.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Feb 2018, 13:50
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03 Feb 2018, 13:50#8

There was a slight improvement in the 2017 iro the Springboks performances - but I would not call it a great improvement.

The improvement could have been much better and the major losses during the season reduced with smaller margins iro losses was it not the BS game plan employed as well as the seriously deficient selections.    In fact the question could be asked - was there in fact a game plan or was it a continuation of the situation under Meyer in 2015 and the BS dished up by Coetzee as Stormers coach?

I would not entirely blame Venter and Smith for the mess - it was basically Coetzee who had the major say.        

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