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Springboks vs England - Bok team announced

Started by Chippo14 REPLIES971 VIEWS· 07 Jun 2018, 11:44
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
07 Jun 2018, 11:44
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07 Jun 2018, 11:44#1
S’busiso Nkosi, Aphiwe Dyantyi and RG Snyman will make their Springbok debuts on Saturday when South Africa face England in the opening Test of their three-Test series in Johannesburg.

I can't wait to see Dyantyi on the test stage.

The exciting wing pair and imposing young lock were included in a revamped Springbok team for the clash at Ellis Park, which starts at 17:05. The Boks will also be skippered by a new captain in Siya Kolisi.

Saturday’ starting team is a completely revamped combination from the side that lost by a narrow margin to Wales last Saturday in Washington, with only Wilco Louw possibly starting again if Trevor Nyakane is not cleared to play.

Nyakane, who is nursing a rib injury, has been bracketed with Louw and will be given until Friday when a call on his inclusion will be made.

Experienced fullback Willie le Roux and lively scrumhalf Faf de Klerk were included in the starting team, while Duane Vermeulen has been named at No 8. Le Roux, who like De Klerk last played for the Springboks in 2016, provides valuable experience to a new-look back trio with Nkosi and Dyantyi.

De Klerk, who had an outstanding season with English Premiership side Sale Sharks, partners Handré Pollard at halfback, while Vermeulen teams up with Jean-Luc du Preez and captain Kolisi in the loose forward combination.

The uncapped Snyman has been a steady force for the Bulls this year and he deservedly earns his first Springbok cap as lock partner to the industrious Franco Mostert, while Pieter-Steph du Toit will play off the bench.

Tendai Mtawarira (prop) is now just one Test away from a century of Springbok caps after he was named to start next to Bongi Mbonambi in the front row.

SA Rugby’s Director of Rugby, Rassie Erasmus, said the Springbok match 23 is an exciting combination.

“We have some good experienced players while there are some really exciting young men who have earned their opportunity to play for the Springboks,” said Erasmus.

“I am especially pleased for the three newcomers, Aphiwe, Sbu and RG, and I am looking forward to see how they will perform in tough Test match conditions against a formidable opponent.”

According to Erasmus his side know what to expect from England, whom he described as a very well-drilled team under the leadership of Eddie Jones.

“England are a top-class, quality side and they will do doubt be very determined to be successful in this series, and with us desperate for success as well it means that the supporters can expect a really good Test match Saturday,” said Erasmus.

“We have prepared as well as we could and the players are looking forward to playing in front of our passionate supporters in Johannesburg.”

Teams:

South Africa

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Trevor Nyakane/Wilco Louw, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Wilco Louw/Thomas du Toit, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Ivan van Zyl, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Warrick Gelant


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bluebokPro3,977 posts
07 Jun 2018, 11:51
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07 Jun 2018, 11:51#2
Not the worst team ever! Lets s ee how well drilled they are on Saturday. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Jun 2018, 12:19
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07 Jun 2018, 12:19#3

Poor starting front row ... awful back row .. second rate midfield pair.

The bench is not much better other than at front row cover.

Eddie has a great opportunity to make history on Saturday.

Go England!!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2018, 13:19
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07 Jun 2018, 13:19#4

I have no faith in the team.   I have serious doubts about the following player:-

*    Am - in Super rugby weak against stronger teams and average in other matches.

*    Vermeulen - has an average to poor record playing for his club - not the player he used o be before injured in 2015.

*    Du Preez has butter fingers and no ball protection and recovery credentials*    Kolisi - not an opensider - low tackle counts and no ball protection and recovery - was substandard for the Stormers throughout the season*    Mostert is not physically strong enough to be a lock - he was tried as a blindside loosie in Super 15 this season and and failed in that as well.   The English lock is going to have a field day against him.*   Snyman is always a discipline liability - frequent penalties and card candidate - not good enough in line-outs and generally not a thinking player at all/*   Nyakane is a real joke and will fail.   However, Louw is not much better.   He came on the  scene last year to replace the disgustingly poor Dreyer as scrummager.   This year in Super Rugby he was very average and last week in Washiungton was shown up badly by Du Toit when he replaced him.*    Mbonambi never ever had a good game for any team he oplayed in - his line throw-in s always was bad and inaccurate.  Has not played for months and I do think he will contribute zero to he team.
Eight of the starting players are seriously deficient - so are four of the bench players.    Despite reputed problems in the England team they will not need much to beat this SA team - hope it is not by more than 15 points.  
Please note I have thus far failed to call the players selected by Erasmus Springboks and I will not do so until players are selected on merit.      
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
07 Jun 2018, 13:39
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07 Jun 2018, 13:39#5

I have no faith in these wannabee Springbok team, so, I can not say Go Bokke.

Will I pay a lot of money for a ticket to go and watch these kabouters (jokers I guess)? Nope, I've seen enough circuses in my time.

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
07 Jun 2018, 13:46
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07 Jun 2018, 13:46#6

England will target the line outs...and play a conventional and controlled game getting the set phases right which will be to our detriment with all our weakenesses in line out...that fool hooker cannot even throw a line out ball straight...the locks are 2nd grade...the front row apart from Beast is a disaster waiting to happen.

We had better not kick for line outs as we will lose most, if not all.

England will exploit all these weakeness...I'm very certain they will gain the upper hand in all these departments...England will take this...by 15-20 points.

"Dan sal die poppe dans!"

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2018, 15:10
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07 Jun 2018, 15:10#7
So what are the improvements that could be made: Esterhosen forAllende...yep that would be better, but still not test class. Kitshoff for the Beast.....the Beast is the better player, still Stephanie for Mostert.....has Stephanie ever had a good test. Anybody for Kolisi.....yep, he is a non fit, a fetcher sized flank who can't fetch. Anybody for du Preez....yep, these much hyped twins have turned out to be bog ordinary. .... So there you have it, there are some improvement possibilities. But are the replacements massively better? More to the point Rassie has already created the strong impression that merit isn't the driver....the KPI index is.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2018, 15:43
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07 Jun 2018, 15:43#8

Another foolish comment from a prejudiced fool.   One should refrain to comment on his BS.  He comments on matches he did not see and that is a fact as well..   

Read what I said above - based on actual performance and reach your own conclusions - or better still - who would you have selected - since the poor selections to the squad that you supported all-out has been dropped because of so-called injuries nobody saw happening.  Much rather - they were so atrocious in the Top 14 final that Erasmus gave up on both of them.   Fat Fransie is a joke in bad taste and that is a fact. 

  

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BokBFClub Pro421 posts
07 Jun 2018, 16:05
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07 Jun 2018, 16:05#9
As we are going to be defending for 80 minutes you could argue that it would be better to play with 14 that way the defenders would not be fooled into thinking that there was cover at 12! 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2018, 17:15
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07 Jun 2018, 17:15#10

We will see on Saturday who are the real weak links in the team.   My bet is it will be from the Tight 5 and the loosies - but would not be surprised if Am fails as well.       

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
07 Jun 2018, 20:07
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07 Jun 2018, 20:07#11
So mike In essence our entire pack is useless. Not sure I agree with you... As usual. I try refrain from making extreme statements in general. ... But in your case... You are the weakest link. Goodbye!
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
07 Jun 2018, 20:07
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07 Jun 2018, 20:07#12
So mike In essence our entire pack is useless. Not sure I agree with you... As usual. I try refrain from making extreme statements in general. ... But in your case... You are the weakest link. Goodbye!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jun 2018, 20:12
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07 Jun 2018, 20:12#13

Not a standard conventional team. Let's see what happens. It seems that the consensus is that we should lose badly with this team. I'm the forever optimist hoping for a win against the odds. Go Bokke!

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
08 Jun 2018, 01:48
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08 Jun 2018, 01:48#14

Solid Side. Good tight five. De Allende bn prob the inform back of SA rugby in Super rugby. I would have K Smith at 7. Seems the  Bok Quota of picking overseas players. Has influenced the selections You could argue better players in Super Rugby.

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sbu Nikoshi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Trevor Nyakane/Wilco Louw, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira

I would of made some changes

15. Curwin Bosh 14. Travis Ismail 13. Aphiwie Dynanti 12. D De Allende 11. M Tambwe 10. Handre Pollard 9. R Cronje 8. J Luc Du Preez 7. K Smith 6. Siya Kolsi 5. P Steph Du Toit 4. RG Snyman 3. S Kitshoff 2. Akeer Van Der Merwe 1. T Mettawaria

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Jun 2018, 08:45
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09 Jun 2018, 08:45#15

Good tight 5?

Really? So why did you change it then?

Kitshoff is a loosehead ... rather play him there.

Dyantyi at 13 is a interesting choice. Definitely worth a shot. I have no faith in Am.

Kwagga is hopelessly too small to play as a test blindside flank.We need an enforcer there.

Seeya is simple useless ... a token to make Rassies masters happy.

Goooooooooooooooo Pommiiieeeesssssssssssssss!!!!



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