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Squad of 34 that should be going to Oz

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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Aug 2022, 23:12
#1
16 Aug 2022, 23:12#1
15. Willie / Gelant / Fassi 14/11. Mapimpi / Nkosi / Tambwe 13/12. de Allende / Am / Esterhuizen / Willemse/ Sango Xamlashe 10. Pollard / Jantjies 9. Faf / Hendrikse / Jantjies 1/3. Ox / Kitshoff / Malherbe / Thomas du Toit / Wilco Louw 2. Marx / Dweba / Grobelaar 4/5. Etzebeth / Lood/ RG Snyman / Jason Jenkins 6/7/8. Kolisi / Kwagga / PSDT/ JL du Preez / Roos / Dan du Preez
AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
17 Aug 2022, 00:46
#2
17 Aug 2022, 00:46#2

Dweba looked out of place in the last game.

Not seen him play prior to that game but was not impressed with his play.

What happened to the Mighty M at #2?

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2022, 01:13
#3
17 Aug 2022, 01:13#3
Dweba is very good but has been thrown in the deep end at test level Your judgement is based on a skew throw in, hardly defining now is it? He is a very physical player who is hard to contain when he gets going He should have been introduced off the bench I take it by mighty M you mean Mbonambi? He is injured
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:56
#4
20 Aug 2022, 19:56#4

There is a very big difference between your "very good" and mine, Stupid. 

I look for talent while you look for ... well not sure what it is that you look for. 

Talent doesn't seem to be a priority in your case.


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 20:12
#5
20 Aug 2022, 20:12#5

He's got potential,  but hasn't deserved a start for the Boks by a long shot...

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Aug 2022, 12:38
#6
21 Aug 2022, 12:38#6

Dweeb doesn't deserve to be considered for test duty. 

He's short, fat and talentless.

I know he's a favourite of Stupid's ... which isn't surprising as Stupid loves to promote the useless. 

Potential?? ... I don't see it.



KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Aug 2022, 11:35
#7
23 Aug 2022, 11:35#7

Couple names on that list I would scratch off completely. No room for Kolisi, he is out of form and yet to put in the same display he did last year. He only comes through in patches, but right now he simply haven't showed up. Even wee kwagga is a better prospect. 

Although, look into the players in the wider group and you'll notice they all have ties when Rassie was at the Stormers, Fourie, Elstadt have no value but are all former stormers players. Rassie picks players that fits into his mould and knows he operates. He doesn't take risk on new players and want to coach all of that out of them before he picks them. That is why Roos isn't ready, neither Marcel Coetzee. 

The team I would select, based on form would be as follow

  1. Kitshoff / Du Toit  (at a push, I would go with Ox, Bongi, Nyakane to appease the politicians but on the bench only in the last 10 min)
  2. Marx / Gobbler
  3. Malherbe / Kock
  4. Etzebeth
  5. Lood / Pieter Steph Du Toit
  6. Marcel Coetzee
  7. Elrich Louw / Kwagga Smit
  8. Even Roos
  9. Hendrikse / Zack Burger / Faf De Klerk
  10. Willemse / Pollard
  11. Tambwe
  12. Estehuizen
  13. Am / Kriel (No other proven 13, Simalane not quite there yet)
  14. Moodie (Kolbe Injured)/ Fassi
  15. Gelant / Le Roux
6 players of colour and there on merit 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Aug 2022, 12:43
#8
23 Aug 2022, 12:43#8

I wonder how many of these "merit" selections would still be merit selection had we not lost an entire army of talented youngsters to contracts abroad.

Chumps like the average Gelant I'm assure would not be viewed as a merit selection. Neither would Willemse, Moodie and Fassi.

Such a pity that all we have to select from are the dregs.

Goooooooooooooo Wallabies!!!

 


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 Aug 2022, 14:30
#9
23 Aug 2022, 14:30#9

"I wonder how many of these "merit" selections would still be merit selection had we not lost an entire army of talented yo ungsters to contracts abroad"

So bloody true... and not just in rugby

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Aug 2022, 23:20
#10
23 Aug 2022, 23:20#10
I see merit in Gelant / Fassi Mapimpi / Kolbe / Nkosi / Tambwe / Skosan / Ismeil / Maxwane / Penxe / Senatla / Stiaan Pienaar / Sergel Petersen / Zas / Angelo Davids / Moodie / Lleyds / Rhule / Kasende / Jacobs / Specman Am / Similane / Gans / Xamlashe / Willemse Jantjies / Hendrikse/ Libbok Jantjies / Hendrikse / Williams / Papier / Nohamba Ox / Nqoboko / Nyakane/ Mchunu / Matanzima Mbonambi / Dweba / Scara Moerat Kolisi / Buthelezi / Vincent Tsituka / Emanuel Tsituka / Carr / Notche / Dayamani / Augustus / Xaba All Black side: 15. Gelant 14. Mapimpi 13. Am 12. Willemse 11. Kolbe 10. Jantjies 9. Hendrikse 1. Ox 2. Mbonambi 3. Nyakane 4. Moerat 5. None 6. Kolisi 7. Tsituka 8. Augustus
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Aug 2022, 07:15
#11
24 Aug 2022, 07:15#11

Of course you do, Stupid.

It's what you do..



DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Aug 2022, 08:33
#12
24 Aug 2022, 08:33#12

    6 Marcel Coetzee

    7 Elrich Louw / Kwagga Smit

    8 Even Roos

    There's value in the above loose trio.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Aug 2022, 09:54
#13
24 Aug 2022, 09:54#13

Well, Stupid ... I know you're strutting your stuff with that all black team of yours ... you probably rate it as world class ... capable of competing against the top international sides ... and winning.

Well ... lets compare your black team to an all white team.

See how they do.

Your front row of ...

Ox, Bongi and Fat Trevor ... vs ... Kitshoff, Marx and Malherbe

Who do you think wins that contest?

How about your lock pair of Moerat and none ...vs ... Etzebeth and RG Snyman.

Who do you think wins that contest?

Lets go to your back row of ...

Kolisi, Tsituka and Augustus ... vs Kwagga, PSDT (Elrich Louw) and Roos.

Who do you think wins that contest  

So far I have your pack going backward at a rate of knots never seen before. 

Totally dominated ... in every aspect ... in the tight loose ... in the lineout set piece ... and in the scrum.

One scrum penalty after the other ... all match long.

Yellow cards galore.

Stealing every ball you put into the lineout. All match long.

Winning every breakdown contest with a fetcher you claim you don't need.

More grunt than your weedy side.

Totally bullied. 

They'll be begging for mercy within the first 20 minutes.

Does the white team even need a backline is my question?

For the sake of argument ... lets compare the backlines.

Your Hendrikse ... vs ... Faf.

Who do you think wins that contest?

How abo ut Elton Jantjies ... vs ... Pollard?

Who do you think wins that contest.

Then we have the midfield.

Your Willemse vs the best 12 in the game today De Lindy ... or against Rohan Janse van Rensburg.

Your Am vs Rohan Janse van Rensburg.

Who do you think wins that contest?

How about Willie vs Gelant or even Jesse Kriel at 15?

Who do you think wins that contest?

From what I see, the white team will easily chalk up 60 pts on your all black side ... and that's only in the first half.

There is no comparison. 

No need to thank me. 

Glad to help you move away from your deluded view.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Aug 2022, 10:57
#14
24 Aug 2022, 10:57#14
Clown Cunt you spent a lot of time coming up with that shit all for nothing Where did I say a black side would beat a white side huh My all black side is a damn good one except for not having a second merit black lock Get it Dries?
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Aug 2022, 11:37
#15
24 Aug 2022, 11:37#15

Feeling like a tottie, huh?

A damn good side you say!?

To do what with?

Play club rugby ... maybe try to qualify for the Currie Cup?

We all know that test rugby isn't an option ... not unless you want to challenge 4th or 5th tier nations like Malawi or Lesotho.

That's why I keep telling you, Stupid ... you have no business talking about top tier rugby nations.  

Rather stick to your endless lists of the useless ... like the one above.

That's where your strength lies.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Aug 2022, 13:50
#16
24 Aug 2022, 13:50#16
Clown Cunt yes it’s a very good side Having you tell me it’s not counts for fuck all for the following reasons: 1. You are as thick as pigshit 2. You know fuck all about rugby 3. You know fuck all about what constitutes a good player - evidenced by your laughable selections like Boshoff, Dylan Smith, Bands and Dries Scholtz - seriously you are fucking clueless 4. You are a raving racist so of course you are going to be anti any black player you scum of the earth Do you honestly think anything you say about rugby has any credibility? I don’t read your posts other than a few lines for a laugh You are the most ignorant rugby poster on here and I mean that sincerely
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Aug 2022, 16:35
#17
24 Aug 2022, 16:35#17

I'm curious ... did your mommy drop you on your head when you were a baby?

It must have been from a doozy of a height.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Aug 2022, 17:58
#18
24 Aug 2022, 17:58#18
You are the most rugby ignorant twat on here Dries and that’s a fact Dries Scholtz at 12 bwaaahaaaaaaaaas Fucking classic
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Aug 2022, 18:02
#19
24 Aug 2022, 18:02#19

Soooo ... does that mean yes?

Certainly would explain a lot 


MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
24 Aug 2022, 18:29
#20
24 Aug 2022, 18:29#20

What is it with this fucking dweeb and lists of names. This dopey cunt talks like playing coach is just drawing names out of a fucking hat. Just because you can write a name down doesn't mean they are any good now does it Bilbo? Huh? Give me some fucking sign that you have more than shit floating around your ugly fat head! Oh and here's a reality check you egotistical fucktard... YOU don't count for fuck all! Understand that prick? 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
24 Aug 2022, 19:35
#21
24 Aug 2022, 19:35#21

Playing the selection game is a common sport amongst supporters.

It never goes hand in hand with providing a way to get those players to play together.


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