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Statisticians and mathematicians floored by Sharks win.

Started by generaltit8 REPLIES169 VIEWS· 13 Jul 2014, 14:20
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
13 Jul 2014, 14:20
#1
13 Jul 2014, 14:20#1

Just goes to show...this can be totally misleading...the real essence of talent cannot be worked out by a computer...lolz


Metres run: Stormers 355-270 Sharks
Carries: Stormers 110-53 Sharks
Defenders beaten: Stormers 16-6 Sharks
Clean breaks: Stormers 1-2 Sharks
Tackles made: Stormers 53-104 Sharks
Tackles missed: Stormers 6-16 Sharks
Turnovers won: Stormers 5-7 Sharks
Kicks in play: Stormers 32-38 Sharks
Rucks won: Stormers 79-35 Sharks
Rucks lost: Stormers 5-3 Sharks
Mauls won: Stormers 6-2 Sharks
Lineouts won: Stormers 17-14 Sharks
Lineouts lost: Stormers 2-4 Sharks
Scrums won: Stormers 7-6 Sharks
Scrums lost: Stormers 0-0 Sharks
Penalties conceded: Stormers 13-13 Sharks


Good on you Sharkies...keep them guessing!

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jul 2014, 14:37
#2
13 Jul 2014, 14:37#2
 Wow, some impressive stats. I would have to see the game to know how the stormers lost.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jul 2014, 16:45
#3
13 Jul 2014, 16:45#3

Wave after wave of Stormers attacks broke up on a reef of Sharks tacklers 5 metres out. In all those phases the Stormers never threw one pass that wasn't totally telegraphed.....never changed the direction of play.....never had one runner cutting onto the ball at pace.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jul 2014, 16:49
#4
13 Jul 2014, 16:49#4
Sounds like maximum effort with minimum brains.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Jul 2014, 20:16
#5
13 Jul 2014, 20:16#5
 That is why I don't particularly use/favour/take into account statistics, they never tell the full story and miss the context of the game. Players like Conrad Smith would look average if you only take a statistics perspective (Apart from his winning ratios) but a lot of what those sorts of players do get's unnoticed by statistics. 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
13 Jul 2014, 21:14
#6
13 Jul 2014, 21:14#6
Precisely and amen to that Shezza.

Passion versus clinical execution of plan is a question that is ambiguous...we often hear the remark...a side won because they wanted it more but the truth is that both ingredients are needed...it has to be balanced (the AB's have generally been the masters of it of the balance). Passion is however the ingredient that comes first and the priority.That's why France on it's day is a formidable opponent,and when it dies even Tonga can beat them. England,Australia in particular can be clinical but lack the oomph...the AB's most times have both and Boks sometimes have both...they however never lack the passion but the passion often leads to clinical execution being fumbled.

That's why stats are flawed.

In 2 hours time we'll see Argentina against Germany in football. Both have the clinical execution but I think the Argies have the passion...to overcome that Germany will have to be clinically better.

I'm backing the Argies to win but this is not always foolproof...the Germans will have to be technically superior to take it.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Jul 2014, 23:01
#7
13 Jul 2014, 23:01#7
 Summed up very well Seb, wished other's would read this. If rugby was a statistics based game it would be boring, the only time I would definitely take statistics into account is things such as win/ratio, points scored, tries and other thing's of that nature. All these stats such as tackles, line breaks, meters gained and what not can be morphed to look good when in game the player has done very little and vice versa.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Jul 2014, 15:51
#8
14 Jul 2014, 15:51#8
So She's za have you ever taken a stats course?  
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
14 Jul 2014, 22:44
#9
14 Jul 2014, 22:44#9
 Not one of significance as I've only done compulsory maths because I don't require an advanced level in maths in my life. Weasel, have you ever stuck you're head out of your arse to breath? 
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