Stop Soccer in South Africa

http://www.africanews.com/2018/06/12/corruption-has-held-back-african-football-anas-aremeyaw//

South Africa linked with a bribe to win the hostin g rights of the World Football Cup, which was an embarrassment. (both the bribe itself, and the performance delivered)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33127146

A key figure in South Africa's football World Cup bid has broken ranks with the government to suggest there might be some truth to a claim that a $10m bribe was paid to secure the 2010 tournament.

Tokyo Sexwale told the BBC the US allegations were "worrisome".

The government says it paid $10m to accounts controlled by then Fifa vice-president Jack Warner to support football development in the Caribbean.

An official said the money, transferred by Fifa, was given without conditions.

But Mr Sexwale - a former Robben Island prisoner, government minister, and a member of both the World Cup bid team and local organising committee - has now openly questioned the credibility of the claim that the money was a "donation".

"Where are the documents, where are the invoices, where are the budgets, where are the projects on the ground?" asked Mr Sexwale.

"If they are not there, you are going to leave the FBI [US Federal Bureau of Investigation] interpretation intact," he said.

Terminate football in Africa...

Being ranked 15th in Africa imo. sounds worse than the 74 world ranking .

Moz I think it should be banned everywhere.

It is a boring ,corrupt and a poor way to spend ones time either watching or playing.The sight of some squeezer on a bajillion dollar salary falling to the ground writhing in "agony " after some other git arches his eyebrow at him is both comedic and horrific.[ not even exaggerating this one!]

Put the scrawny wee gits to work as brickies labourers or some such .Mine field clearance would also be good as the wee fairy-weights barely leave an imprint on the ground [ or each other when "tackling "] and their tiny wee fingers would be good at manipulating fuses etc like a wee monkey picking fleas [ we all know how much soccer players love grooming] 

Must agree.

It's a sport without substance ... totally pointless ... with the most entertaining part being the dramatic dives we see to impress the ref ... who by the looks of it, is stupid enough to fall for the ruse every time.

@ CC. Well yes. The allure of soccer is in the same order as blowing snotbubbles. An utterly uninspiring sport. A testimony to manual uselessness, although I doubt you would grasp what I have just said, no umbrage intended.

As to this Mozart ignoramus: One does wonder if he is capable of discerning between jukskei and any other sport, or for that matter whether he has ANY understanding of the sonata form.

Prediction. DBs (Dom Boere) versus Mighty ABs: Margin of 30+. Bye-bye bokkies. Proteas are our future.

An educated stone c hucker ... !

I'm sure we're all very impressed.

Highly educated. And most certainly not as simple-minded of the 92 voting fodder, who stupidly remain unwaveringly convinced that the majority will at some point assimilate the naive idealistic political abstractions of their misguided era, despite clear indications to the contrary. Regards, Ndaba von Richthofen.

Haaaahahahahaa!!

Yes, I know, BlueBok. Thanks! I've seen this misguided fool's provocative attempts on the board before.

'CC, the problem is, Ndabaningi is not black.' Ah. The heart of the matter. In your preconceptions, blacks are not capable of articulate argument, hence I must be white. To some extent I have sympathy for you, as the apartheid educational system produced exactly what generated and fits your racial attributions which you make quite unwitting of the implications. Fools typically rush without thinking.

Ndaba

You mean the 1991 referendum?   

Anyway - I know there are a lot of bored people around.   Rather than watch a boring soccer repeat game - just switch over to ENCA news and watch the Commission of Enquiry dealing with State Capture.   It is absolutely entertaining and a real eye-opener.

Better do that rather than watching a boring Soccer game and even beats cricket - the enquiry participants must guard their wickets better  than most batsmen ever has to,   

I'm unaware of a referendum in 91 Mike. The only ones I know of were in 1983 and 1992, both of which were way before my time. Rugby preceded Soccer, despite the historical revisionistic nonsense about William Web Ellis purporting the opposite. The Romans played rugby in the middle ages, as is clear from the writings of Herodotus. The WWE story is just another classical example of British cultural imperialism. Playing ball with the hands is likely to have originated before playing ball with the feet. In my estimation soccer probably originated somewhere during the industrial revolution as a phenomenological reaction to the sense of manual uselessness mechanisation would have introduced. Now there's a novel idea eh?

Blue, Nda admitted to being Rooinek...well sort of.

Whatever Mr Ndabiningi is hes not bad at catching little fishies .......

Apparently soccer is supposed to be quite skilful ,so is knitting and who wants to watch Nana making you that lumpy Xmas jumper instead of a real pressie ?

Another tantrum thrown by SA people on this board.

There should be no sports in SA, especially if, as people on here describe the main population inept to sports.

It is a given that there will be no decent player coming from the main population as rugby players, and this when rugby is given the priority on the nation scale.

Football is another topic since rugby was favoured over football and countries that acted the same usually do not have a decent football team.

That being stated, football is different from rugby in that football in SA could have been a profitable venture. If SA were not forced into the rugby over football scheme, and were put in the football development path, today, football could have been an engine for growth, with academies training players with exchange values. This could have led the SA championship to sell in european countries etc

Even african countries got the football over scheme right and a country like Liberia managed to produce a world class player.

The potential was there, football could have been practised as an investment in SA.

Rugby is an industry of debt in SA. Tons of resources are spent training players who bring nothing back.They do not command a transfer fee. They have no pride in the shirt and hide behind the quota policy that never was to avoid the international squad duties.

This to be compared with african football players who play for their country despite all the corruption issues (they are not paid for it) and sometimes, they even paid fom their own pockets to play for their countries.

Kolmanskop incoming to SA. Kolmanskop has no rugby nor football teams.

That being said, rugby over football is a story of misallocation of resources. Football could have been a profitable venture in SA. Rugby no.

rugby players do command a transfer fee- if they are in contracts. 

Just like a football player would obtain a transfer fee- if they are in contacts.

If a football player was not in an active current that had not expired- do you think that an overseas football team would pay the ANC for this player?

The Bulls even sold their Coach Mitchell for a profit- because he was in a current contract. England is desperate to have him asap, so this gives the Bulls the power to negotiate more than he is worth... They made a profit from him. 

Any African run organisation is filled with corruption that the senior management will always steal any profit if there is any due to the incompetent running of the organisation. 

Soccer in South Africa was stunted by black men, not white.n South Africa was a good team until the new South Africa set in. Carlos Quieroz was treated disgracefully by South Africa. He had a plan to revolutionise the game at all levels, implementing development programs and facilities like those in Spain. They ignored it and pocketed the money for themselves. Now Trad blames the wrong people. How can South Africa produce such feeble minded people? Sout Africa doesn't want to succeed, it has an innate desire to fail.