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Stop your whining and stop being arrogant!

Started by Gonzo the Great10 REPLIES252 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2014, 02:23
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:23
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24 Aug 2014, 02:23#1

So people are upset because the boks didnt donder the pumas well i say pull your head out of your big fat azz! this argie side is awesome and they have really petfected their style. give them credit and just accept that we won a really tough test. im so sick and tirrd of the sour divkheadx in south aftica who havr no respect fir opposition and cant give credit whete it us due, even to our side when they have a fight on their hands and prevail. weve had by far the tougher opposition in this comp so far.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:25
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24 Aug 2014, 02:25#2
There's nothing wrong with wanting improvement.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:31
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24 Aug 2014, 02:31#3
 Bonzo the Apemoron
The Argentionians were good - but that do es not excuse the disgusting display of some of our players.   There need to be some urgent changes to the squad - there are two many passengers in that squad of ours.    
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:35
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24 Aug 2014, 02:35#4
Spot on Bonzo, these big mouths have no conception how much guts that took  
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:50
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24 Aug 2014, 02:50#5

Mike, you call for urgent changes. How about starting with the front row? Tighthead?


If we can solve the problem with our front row, I would guess that we have solved more than 80% of the Boks' problems. 

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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 13:52
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24 Aug 2014, 13:52#6
 let me guess mika morne and frans hahahahahahaha! Alberts? hahahahahaha!!! or is it matfield, or du preez or de jongh? please tell us who exactly.

Shezza,i said nothing about wanting improvements i said that we must stop being so arrogant. i dont remember new zealanders trashing their tea when we nearly beat them on home soil in 2003 that could have been called disgusting. or how they nearly lost to munster and canada at one point. they arent as stupid as south africans and far more loyal when the chips are down or if their team fight tooth and nail. bok fans are generally big fat bloated losers who are only there when the skies are blue and wind behind their sails. when anything doesnt go to plan then thy jump ship and turn on the team and thats a really bad mark of really shocking poor character. how many times in the past have i cautioned bok fans not to expect easy beats? like the second welsh test. historically they always come back way stronger in a second test but the fans predicted an even bigger win how god dmn pig headed can you be. no respect or sense of reality from the six toed fools. perspective is all i am calling for here. not much.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2014, 14:04
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24 Aug 2014, 14:04#7
blikkies
We need to start with the front row and get rid of two passneger that is letting the team down - I think that Jannie was up-and-down (mostly down) for the Sharks as well this year.   Problem is that with Malherbe injured - there is no real present contenders.   
The only player tha Springs to mind as a very strong sxrummager is Dreyer of the Lions. Wonder whether they should not see whether Thomas du Toit cannot scrum at Tighthead as well.  The back-up could come from Marcel van der Merwe.     However, any combination would eb ebtter than Jannie is at present.  
Once the rot in teh front row is fixed - we are likely to get better in the Tight 5.  


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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 14:13
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24 Aug 2014, 14:13#8
 its a tough decision mika. if you drop jannie there is No other alternative really. we dont lack for strong people at prop but they are nearly all technically garbage. thats the biggest flaw. and when forming a frontrow combo you have other things to take into consideration like the height for a start. some guys are not physically compatible. bissie might be the guy whol lets it down with his height. maybe try strauss as a starter and try beast or gurthro and I think that will be a big improvement. but man trying another novice? hahahahaha no chance in hell. its been done before and backfires so badly. as things stand i hope our frontrow dont cost us the aussie test like they did in 2012. but then australia and new zealand are way weaker in the scrum than argentina, scotland or wales right now so it may not be as much of a factor,
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
24 Aug 2014, 15:41
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24 Aug 2014, 15:41#9
I agree...don't see eye to eye with you sometimes but this is something I've felt strongly about and I really wish the Pumas can kick butts now and then especially the 3  southern giants...they've kicked arse before in Bloem some time back when Hugo Porta was capt and drew with AB's in NZ around about same time.

I hope one day a minnow side like Georgia or Canada or Romania kick big big butt...I suppose it's a little touch of Irish blood in me that sticks up for the underdog
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 16:14
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24 Aug 2014, 16:14#10
 romania used to be quite a tough side so too canada. professionalism really killed them off but the minnows have a lot of sides with really tough packs like georgia etc. a tough pack in a minnow side can really stuff you up even if they arent really going to win. most people like aussies particularly cant see this. they dont understand how important a strong pack is. when argies are up for it they make contest for possession too hard to allow you to just run rampant and score easy tries. canada in 2007 where ahead of new zealand in a warmp up before the world cup. they just didnt have the legs to sustain the pressure so fell away badly in the second half but it showed what they were capable of!
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
24 Aug 2014, 16:57
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24 Aug 2014, 16:57#11
Yeah , it's all about finance back up...Georgia despite being a small country which is quite poor has incrediblily strong men...wrestling champions...leading sport, then rugby...good front rowers...the Southern giants could import some...French clubs attract some...that monster Mamuka Gorgodze (loosie and/or lock)...could have easily been a star in NZ, SA or Australia. Wasted but these guys are very patriotic...met a few in Russia and in Georgia, I like these people...their food (lamb kebabs is delicious) Not all of them are anti Russian, thugs and violent, it's just the poor uneducated and ignorant.

Nearly took out Ireland in 2007 World Cup...led right up to eleventh hour then Ireland just managed to pip them.

The 1995 WC champions struggled against Canada...only won by 20 points and beat Romania in a match before in Newlands by only a few points...quite a lot will happen one day I'm sure...the best rugby players in the world are the Pacific Islanders, if Fiji,Samoa,Papua and Tonga merged as one rugby union and had money nobody would touch them and they wouldn't live in NZ...and ofcourse with their total absence NZ wouldn't be the giant today (sorry this is a sore point but it's a fact).
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