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Stormers do everything to try and lose....and fail

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES379 VIEWS· 24 Mar 2012, 02:00
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2012, 23:13
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24 Mar 2012, 23:13#1

The Lions were tough biltong today. With incredible phase play and dominance at the breakdown they kept the ball all game. They only made their second phase mistake at minute 75 as Jean ripped out the ball. After how many phases?

 

By contrast the Stormers found every possible way to concede the ball. Isolated runners kept being turned over by Minnie et al.  Duvenage kicked the ball out directly. Duvenage throws a looped intercept pass near the Lions tryline. That hopelessly inexperienced  young hooker throws it in skew twice. Liebenburg concedes yet another penalty failing to retreat. Koster fumbles a simple kickoff. Peterson up and unders aimlessly. Kolisi doesn't even contest Minnie as he closes in on the down ball.

 

The Stormers ended with a massive penalty deficit. And even where they had an advantage in the scrums, they were negated by early hits. Finally Glen Jackson, lauded by Bobby, but to me only just competent....called it in the last 10 minutes. But those penalties just kept driving them back.

 

This will require a lot of analysis by the Newlands brains trust. To me Koster looked too flimsy to really impact things. Vermeulen was strangely absent and Kolisi is energetic but weak on the ground. The Bools will be even harder to contain in the ground game.

 

On the positive side de Jongh and Jean did brilliantly defensively. Aplon, size protestations aside, put his man in touch with conviction. Habana is rounding into form.

 

In the pack Etzebeth continues a huge work rate and Kitshoff has that second shove power that we haven't seen in a while from a SA loosehead. Habana's try came from his scrummaging.

 

But mostly well done Lions. A narrow but massive effort from them. What a shame either of the Lions or Cheetahs are history.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
24 Mar 2012, 23:45
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24 Mar 2012, 23:45#2

Wow! Pretty thorough. I have nothing much to add to that other than very much agreed. I think we could see de Jongh outside Frans this year. Exciting prospect.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2012, 02:48
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25 Mar 2012, 02:48#3

 Card - de Jongh did absolutely nothing of note at all. Did he play?

Josh Strauss was huge

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2012, 03:50
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25 Mar 2012, 03:50#4

Strauss was so huge, so critical to the Lions win, that they subbed  him early. And in one of his two runs Jean ripped the ball off him. Strauss got it back a phase later, but he seems to lose the ball every second time he carries it.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2012, 03:57
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25 Mar 2012, 03:57#5

 He lost the ball once - FACT, carried it many times making yards everytime. He was huge today and given his workrate in attack and defence, there is no surprise he ran out of steam. Strauss showed again why he would easily fit into test rugby - certainly a better attacking player than Schalk

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2012, 04:36
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25 Mar 2012, 04:36#6

Stormers will have to get their act together before their away games.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2012, 08:42
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25 Mar 2012, 08:42#7

Strauss is not a better attacking player than Schalk. He is poor with ball retention and little more than a basher. Schalk has looped round creating space eg in his try with Bekker against NZ. He also has an outstanding pass and the ability to link in open field moves. And he loses the ball about as much in a season as Strauss does in a match. This is just another of your obsessions.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2012, 10:17
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25 Mar 2012, 10:17#8

How on earth he can trump Strauss above Schalk is beyond understanding, Schalk our shining light at the WC and at every test his played. He obviously just hates Schalk...finish & klaar.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2012, 10:18
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25 Mar 2012, 10:18#9

Glad to see Habana has his pace back again.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Mar 2012, 01:00
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26 Mar 2012, 01:00#10

 Now now Moz, we all know the one weakness Schalk has is his inclination to head straight into traffic, much like Strauss does in fact - but Strauss makes more of an impact as he is stronger and makes more yards, he also like Etzebeth drives players back in the tackle. 

Schalk is a body on the line kind of player as is Strauss - Strauss is just a younger more physical version - hence me opting for him as Schalks successor - natural progression

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Mar 2012, 11:22
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26 Mar 2012, 11:22#11

DAve and moz if i may butt in. Why do you think Strauss and and burge rar ecompeting for the same spot?

Question is who will play 6 forthe Boks. Now please d onot give me  aknee jerk answer brussouw o fcourse. wee brussouw is struggling to make any impression a tall. So are we back to burger at 6?  Strauss looks to me like a 7.

I like the look of Jaques Potgieter for the bulle.  This boy is the real deal.

I note that Alberts is not making the impact he needs to yet. Maybe still getting fit.

 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2012, 18:42
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26 Mar 2012, 18:42#12

Marcel Coetzee outplayed Potgieter.....there's your future ball carrier.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
26 Mar 2012, 20:00
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26 Mar 2012, 20:00#13

Brussow and Hooper are far and away the leading opensiders in the competition. I've lost count of the amount of try saving turnovers and tackles Brussow has made alone. He has made a big difference this season. No other South African 6 comes close to him, not from any era. Do we have a more complete loose forward than him? I can't recall one. Hooper should overtake Pocock for the Australia no.7 jersey; that after comprehensively outgunning Pocock in Round 1.

Alberts is not a big impact player. He is much like Strauss, just doing the bare minimum required. He did look very good for the Boks at lock though. Maybe another player not in his best position perhaps.
 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Mar 2012, 23:12
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26 Mar 2012, 23:12#14

 Beeno, one certainty is that Schalk is no 6, never has been never will be. Brussouw walks the Bok 6 spot blindfolded - easily one of the best 6's in the game, if not the best. Schalk is competing with Strauss for the 7 spot as he is with Coetzee. Second to Brussouw for the 6 spot is Daniel, who plays more of a linking role as Luke did.

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