BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Feb 2014, 13:32#2
Alistair was the Bok backline coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That says it all re quota appointments.
Hurricanes maybe in for a surpirse but I cant think ou Allistair has the nous even to pick the right team.
STSun-Tzu
Club Pro713 posts
24 Feb 2014, 13:48#3
I'm not so sure that Coetzee had much to do with that bok backline. They were running Brumbies plays that Jake liked - he was very influenced by Eddie Jones' Brumbies. I think the Bok attack stalled once the centre pair changed. But as head coach, I have to agree, not much from anyone really. Perhaps Peter De Villiers is available, he loved picking Stormers players, lol.
I hope I'm wrong - I never enjoy backing foreign teams over South Africans - but I think the Canes will take this game. Not a try fest, but comfortably.
STSun-Tzu
Club Pro713 posts
24 Feb 2014, 14:15#5
Hahahahaha!! From Bok coach to Varsity Team? Are you serious?
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Feb 2014, 14:16#6
Coetzee does not have a clue.......its the same year after year
STSun-Tzu
Club Pro713 posts
24 Feb 2014, 14:21#8
He should be coach of a team in a TV series. There used to be one like that in the UK Dream Team I believe it was. I think Peter would be a legend.
Agreed Saffex, no growth for four years now.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Feb 2014, 14:55#9
The only thing Coetzee is a master at, is marginalising talented players, forcing them to seek greener pastures elsewhere........centre Pat Howard will be the next to go.........the list of youngsters is endless........Quinn Roux, Nick Koster, Kitshoff (flanker) , JJ Engelbrecht, JP du Plessis, Gerhard v/d Heever, Tim Swiel, Dom Armand, Duvenhage etc
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Feb 2014, 16:27#11
Not one of the group Coetzee let go has proven a thing....Quinn Roux, JJ, Koster hahahaha.....and there are no greener pastures than CT, Dave.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Feb 2014, 16:53#12
You missed the point completely. Venter has a medical practice in the Str and and is certainly available to get the Stormers out of the rut they are in.
MDMonkey D Luffy
Pro6,277 posts
MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
24 Feb 2014, 16:55#13
john mitchell is being wasted coaching at that level, would love for him to come to the hurricanes, hell i would take PDV over hammet.
he gave up coaching the sale sharks Iithink it was them) to coach at that level, muppet is the first thing to pop into my head.
if their was a reality show, then i would love for PDV the funniest coach to be on one team, and mitchell to be on the other.
mitchell has quite a history with his charges, both the force and lions turned into bullied little girls saying that mitchells approach was to harsh. a coup detat of sorts was the result in both his tenures at the force and lions.
@suntzu,
stormers could be just suffering a case of the first round blues where cobwebs are still very much in the system. mix that with bizzaro midas touch where everything they touched turned to poo, and u have urself the perfect storm, (wooohoo, fit that in perfectly, :oP)
ive never seen any team show so much nothing when attacking an oppositions line.
years of putting all attacking nous on the shelves has seen what little it had go off.
as kak as coetzee is, there was still plenty of class in that stormers team, that they should have been able to do something.
coetzee is not bad enough to negate the talent that is there, aplon, JDV, de allende, caterkilis, malherbe, kitshoff, elsdat, vermeulen.
this is why IMO the rnd one blues was one of two of the main contributors to their loss to the lions.
the other was the lions were just the better team.
to get a try early on, followed be a relentless barrage of drop goals, topped up with a 100% penalty and conversion success rate at almost regular intervals.
i doubt any team could come back from that, let alone the worst attacking team for the last 3 years playing thier first spXV game of the season.
AJArthur John
Pro1,748 posts
AJArthur JohnPro1,748 posts
24 Feb 2014, 17:08#15
The Stormers have three problems:
1. No manager/coach.2. No Captain.3. No flare.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Feb 2014, 08:33#18
AJ I give you 2 out of three. Nothing wrong with the captain.
The point is this. Allistair showed nothing as the Bok backline coach. I can only think Jake selected him for quota reasons. Its all quota rubbish from begining to end.
The Stormers attack has been the worst in the competition for years now. Allistair is to blame. Who else?
We do keep losing players at a remarkable rate. We overlook players. Wille le Roux is from the Boland! Boland beat the Stormers.
It is nothing short of a disgrace how badly the WP union is run. The results are appaling in relation to the fan base and club strength.
That Venter is not the coach or a Mallet or Rassie is beyond words. Frankly the best thing would be for the Stormers to finish last and we bring in a real rugby man like Venter etc Allistair has had amazing talent at his disposal and has played one dimensional rugby. Something has to change. Gettin g in some brain power is the biggest need.
RURugganut
Club Pro183 posts
RURugganutClub Pro183 posts
25 Feb 2014, 10:49#19
Beeno......................agreed. Ahmen !
STSun-Tzu
Club Pro713 posts
25 Feb 2014, 11:58#20
Yes Beeno, I quite agree, the union is being run poorly . As the Brits would say; Lions led by donkeys.
25 Feb 2014, 16:06#21
Agreed Beans. Although, how the bulls have managed to get as crap as they are with the massive budgets they have and the assets at their disposal is also mind boggling. Yes they lost a lot of players but they should easily have been able to replace them considering the resources they have available.
It points to one thing and that is poor management.
