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Support Runners - Slow Ball

Started by Devil's Advocate6 REPLIES601 VIEWS· 18 Sept 2017, 14:34
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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
18 Sept 2017, 14:34
#1
18 Sept 2017, 14:34#1

There are 2 main areas of concern that I have spoken about over the years, and I have still yet to see any consistent improvement in these two areas.


Watching this last test, the All Blacks looked arrogant with the way they played, but after watching the full game, one could not but admire the complete and utter confidence that they had in their collective ball skills and offloading and handling.


When any All Black player offloads, either in space or even in the tackle, there is almost always one or more of his own players, coming at speed or with some momentum, to receive the ball and create more space or try scoring opportunities, whereas in South Africa's case, the player normally always becomes isolated, which leads to a penalty for holding on by going to ground after being tackled, or we concede a turnover through no support.


It frustrates me to see a lot of ground being made, or getting over the advantage line, but with no support runners at all, we lose most of the advantage that was gained.


Just watch how many times we completely fail to have any supporting players in the offload. 


The other big issue for me is the incredibly slow service.  There was a chasm of difference between the two sides on Saturday, and it is a common problem in the SA game.  Our opponents are almost always given so much time, to get their defensive lines back in place, whilst we decide what move we are going to do next. 


I just laughed at that one time when Lood was just looking and waiting for someone to maybe whisper in his ear and tell him what needed to be done next.


Oh well, I am not expecting anything to change soon

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
18 Sept 2017, 14:48
#2
18 Sept 2017, 14:48#2
The ruck area was very poor. Losing Kriel before the match was a disaster. Things went from bad to worse when Cronje was replaced by the bumbling Hougaard.
Although everyone was to blame, I think if a specialist scrumhalf of international standard had started the game, things would have not nearly have been as bad.
Hougaard is a total liability that cant pass- nor does he command the ruck a rea. He is slow to the ruck, cant pass in one motion, and is very indecisive. He has jitters that spreads across the whole team. 
Meyer learnt the hard way after the 2014 NH tour, where Hougaard was a total disaster.He is not an international scrumhalf and needs to be discarded with. I would drop him from the squad for good, and bring in another scrumhalf.
A backrow of Kolisi, Kriel and Mostert combined with a specialist scrumhalf would see improvement.
Losing to the All Blacks is not so bad, given we have had some good results this year. (e.g the draw in Australia).The problem was the team totally imploding, and being a total embarrassment. The All Blacks put in their best performance of the season- outdoing the 1st half in Australia. 
The All Blacks just moved the ball to the wing, where our defence is pathetic- and it was game, set , match
Also, too many people in the team are not specialists- like Jessica Kriel, 


DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Sept 2017, 15:00
#3
18 Sept 2017, 15:00#3
 Good points DA....I would add another major difference being the Boks mostly take the ball from a standing start whereas good attacking moves and momentum is created from running onto the ball. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Sept 2017, 15:01
#4
18 Sept 2017, 15:01#4
Not only slow ball DA.....slow runners, all moving in one direction across the field, never reversing course to where the defence is imbalanced.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
18 Sept 2017, 16:29
#5
18 Sept 2017, 16:29#5

Very valid points regarding the standing start and the slow runners in one direction across the field.


Also, similar to what Denny is saying, and what Mozart is saying... why pass 5 - 10 meters back, when you are on the attack, to a player who is standing dead still, and is yet to gain any momentum at all, when he could at least close the gap as the receiver and run onto the ball to at least gain as much momentum as  possible.  

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
20 Sept 2017, 00:56
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20 Sept 2017, 00:56#6
 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
20 Sept 2017, 00:56
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