Swiel to Sharks....continued

Don't know what happened...it appears that when you copy and paste from a Word Document...it goes haywire

I'll try again...Tim Swiel, Patrick Lambie, Frans Steyn and Fred Zeilinga.

Judge for yourselves...some contradictions here by previous posters;

Sharks   31–16    Bulls      Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                19:10     Try: Paul Jordaan Try 10'

Cobus Reinach Try 21'

Odwa Ndungane Try 40'

Patrick Lambie Try 83'

Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 40' (1/4)

Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 4', 32', 47' (3/3)

François Steyn (0/2)

Cards: Jean Deysel Temporarily suspended from 66' to 77' 66' to 77'         Report[11]

22 February 2014              Sharks   27–9      Hurricanes          Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                17:05     Try: Willem Alberts Try 20'

Lwazi Mvovo Try 65'

Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 21' (1/2)

Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 6', 43', 58', 78', 81' (5/5)

                Report[27]

8 March 2014     Sharks   37–23    Lions     Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                19:10     Try: Paul Jordaan Try 8'

Cobus Reinach Try 38'

Odwa Ndungane Try 50'

Marcell Coetzee Try 80'

Con: François Steyn Kick 9', 39', 51', 81' (4/4)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 21', 24', 34' (3/3)

Cards: Ryan Kankowski Temporarily suspended from 64' to 74' 64' to 74'                Report[60]

Scoreboard[61]                 Try: Faf de Klerk Try 64'

Deon van Rensburg Try 68'

Con: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 65', 69' (2/2)

Pen: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 12', 16', 37' (3/3)

Cards: Corné Fourie Yellow card 74'         Attendance: 28,158

Referee: Jaco Peyper

Bye/s: Chiefs, Highlanders, Waratahs

Round 5

15 March 2014   Sharks   35–20    Reds      Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                17:05     Try: Willem Alberts Try 27'

Dale Chadwick Try 77'

Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 28', 78' (2/2)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 10', 37' (2/2)

Patrick Lambie Kick 19', 23', 26', 34', 59' (5/5)

                Report[74]

Scoreboard[75]                 Try:

22 March 2014   Bulls      23–19    Sharks   Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria             

                19:10     Try: Jacques du Plessis Try 48'

JJ Engelbrecht Try 53'

Con: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 49', 54' (2/2)

Pen: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 15' (1/1)

Handré Pollard Kick 79' (1/1)

Drop: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 22' (1/2)

Handré Pollard (0/1)

                Report[88]

Scoreboard[89]                 Try: Willem Alberts Try 8'

Con: Tim Swiel Kick 9' (1/1)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 37', 40', 67', 70' (4/5)

Drop: François Steyn (0/2)

29 March 2014   Sharks   32–10    Waratahs            Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                17:05     Try: Marcell Coetzee Try 50'

Keegan Daniel Try 72'

Con: Fred Zeilinga Kick 51', 73' (2/2)

Pen: Fred Zeilinga Kick 10', 17', 22', 65', 80' (5/5)

François Steyn Kick 38' (1/2)

                Report[100]

Scoreboar

12 April 2014      Lions     12–25    Sharks   Ellis Park Stadium, Johannesburg            

                19:10     Pen: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 19', 33', 58', 65' (4/4)

Drop: Marnitz Boshoff (0/1)

                Report[126]

Scoreboard[127]              Try: Lwazi Mvovo Try 67'

Con: François Steyn Kick 68' (1/1)

Pen: Fred Zeilinga Kick 4', 6' (2/3)

François Steyn Kick 48', 51', 63', 72' (4/6)

Drop: François Steyn (0/2)

Cards: Jannie du Plessis Temporarily suspended from 18' to 28' 18' to 2

19 April 2014      Sharks   19–8      Cheetahs             Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                15:00     Try: Jean Deysel Try 71'

Con: François Steyn Kick 72' (1/1)

Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 32' (1/3)

François Steyn Kick 46', 51', 62' (3/4)

Drop: François Steyn (0/1)

                Report[136]

Scoreboard[13

25 April 2014      Sharks   18–34    Highlanders       Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                19:10     Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 7', 13', 21', 40', 44', 50' (6/8)

Drop: François Steyn (0/1)

                Report[144]

Scoreboard[145]              Try:

2 May 2014         Rebels 16–22    Sharks   AAMI Park, Melbourne                

                19:40     Try: Patrick Leafa Try 70'

Con: Jason Woodward Kick 71' (1/1)

Pen: Jason Woodward Kick 20', 28', 55' (3/3)

                Report[154]

Scoreboard[155]              Try: JP Pietersen Try 64'

Con: François Steyn Kick 65' (1/1)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 21', 26', 30', 35', 38' (5

10 May 2014       Brumbies            16–9      Sharks   GIO Stadium, Canberra                

                19:40     Try: Sam Carter Try 63'

Con: Christian Lealiifano Kick 64' (1/1)

Pen: Christian Lealiifano Kick 2', 37', 48' (3/6)

Nic White (0/1)

                Report[172]

Scoreboard[173]              Pen: François Steyn Kick 15', 45', 72' (3/6)

17 May 2014       Crusaders            25–30    Sharks   AMI Stadium, Christchurch        

                19:35     Try: Colin Slade Try 13'

Con: Colin Slade Kick 14' (1/1)

Pen: Colin Slade Kick 17', 31', 48', 59', 65', 74' (6/9)

                Report[182]

Scoreboard[183]              Try: S'bura Sithole Try 9'

Cobus Reinach Try 42'

Kyle Cooper Try 76'

Con: François Steyn Kick 10', 43' (2/2)

Tim Swiel Kick 77' (1/1)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 40', 52' (2/3)

Tim Swiel Kick 69' (1/1)

Drop: François Steyn (0/1)

Cards: Jean Deysel Red card 17'

Willem Alberts Temporarily suspended from 64' to 74' 64' to 74'

23 May 2014       Blues     23–29    Sharks   QBE Stadium, Albany    

                19:35     Try: Luke Braid Try 43'

Tevita Li Try 67'

Con: Simon Hickey Kick 43' (1/1)

Ihaia West Kick 68' (1/1)

Pen: Simon Hickey Kick 8', 18' (2/3)

Ihaia West Kick 73' (1/1)

                Report[191]

Scoreboard[192]              Try: Bismarck du Plessis Try 11'

Cobus Reinach Try 55'

Con: François Steyn Kick 12', 56' (2/2)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 6', 34', 51' (3/4)

SP Marais Kick 70' (1/1)

Drop: François Steyn Kick 27' (1/1)

Cards: Jannie du Plessis Temporarily suspended from 42' to 53' 42' to 53'

François Steyn Temporarily suspended from 62' to 72' 62' to 72'

31 May 2014       Sharks   19–21    Stormers             Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                19:10     Try: Cobus Reinach Try 39'

Con: François Steyn Kick 40' (1/1)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 3', 10', 29', 48' (4/6)

Drop: François Steyn (0/1)

Cards: Marcell Coetzee Temporarily suspended from 63' to 73' 63' to 73'                Report[217]

5 July 2014          Cheetahs             27–20    Sharks   Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein         

                19:10     Try: Torsten van Jaarsveld Try 8'

Philip van der Walt Try 33'

Lood de Jager Try 49'

Con: Johan Goosen Kick 9', 34', 49' (3/3)

Pen: Johan Goosen Kick 3', 56' (2/2)

Cards: Johan Goosen Yellow card 80'       Report[239]

Scoreboard[240]              Try: Cobus Reinach Try 22'

Bismarck du Plessis Try 74'

Con: Tim Swiel Kick 23', 75' (2/2)

Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 19', 27' (2/3)

12 July 2014        Stormers             10–34    Sharks   DHL Newlands, Cape Town        

                19:10     Try: Nizaam Carr Try 16'

Con: Kurt Coleman Kick 17' (1/1)

Pen: Kurt Coleman Kick 36' (1/2)

                Report[255]

Scoreboard[256]              Try: Paul Jordaan Try 38'

S'bura Sithole Try 76'

Stefan Ungerer Try 81'

Con: François Steyn Kick 39', 77' (2/2)

Fred Zeilinga (0/1)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 4', 22', 25', 28', 45' (5/6)

Cards: Willem Alberts Temporarily suspended from 15' to 26' 15' to 26'

19 July 2014        Sharks   31–27    Highlanders       Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban             

                17:05     Try: Marcell Coetzee Try 13'

Bismarck du Plessis Try 53'

Tonderai Chavhanga Try 56'

Con: François Steyn Kick 14', 54' (2/3)

Pen: François Steyn Kick 3', 30', 74', 80' (4/5)

                Report[259]

26 July 2014        Crusaders            38–6      Sharks   AMI Stadium, Christchurch        

                19:35     Try: Kieran Read Try 17'

Nemani Nadolo Try 49'

Willi Heinz Try 65'

Johnny McNicholl Try 70'

Matt Todd Try 78'

Con: Dan Carter Kick 18', 66' (2/5)

Pen: Dan Carter Kick 3', 28', 31' (3/4)

                Report[261]

Scoreboard[262]              Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 22', 35' (2/4)

Sure - goal kicking does not indicate the functioning of the backline/ That would obviously not be understood by you.    

The second issue is out of hand kicking of Fatso -- which caused more handovers than anything else.   Fatso set a record in possession handovers and because White protected Fatso and would not deal with his inadequacies White was fired at the end of his first year at the Sharks,   Fatso in fact caused the problems that led to the White firing.

Another beauty was Fat Fransie was on contract with SARU between 2012 and 2015 and seconded to the Sharks,   The contract terminated at the end of 2015 because he was not test standard anymore and not even Super Rugby standard as well,   No Super Rugby franchise would touch him with a bargepole.              

I did not stress only the kicking but when you compare the games...it looks like the other flyhalves did not do too badly...it was Sharks best year for sometime, ending at the top of SA Conference.

I'm not knocking Frans Steyn but it appears that both Lambie, Swiel and Zeilinga weren't as useless as some posters indicated.

There's something wrong with us, when we are better than most we fire the coach...JW and previously John Plumtree and then go from bad to worse....the Sharks never settled down after this...every franchise in SA is at sixes and sevens...like our past national coaches.  I'm not sure why Jake White really left...I heard was because of factions developing in the team but I'm not entirely convinced...I think there's something wrong with the Saffa mentality, I'm sad to say. We can see it clearly on this forum how we behave...we are our own worst enemies. Some of you live in the past, others in cloud cuckooland...we aren't able to face realities...we are bloody contentious and arrogant...we blame others instead of accepting responsibility ourselves...

Give me the source material and I'll post it in a more readable format.