Rumour is that Swiel has left WP and signed for the Sharks. Jake White working away quietly .
Huge fuck up by WP and Stormers.
The shit van Aswegen and Coleman have had too much backing.
Rumour is that Swiel has left WP and signed for the Sharks. Jake White working away quietly .
Huge fuck up by WP and Stormers.
The shit van Aswegen and Coleman have had too much backing.
No problem mate.
He was 4th choice at 20 and instead of sitting on the bench, he was getting regular game time in a record breaking WP u21 team that won the Currie Cup.
But he was still very much in the picture for the first team and got a short debut this currie cup. Allister and Fleck have often mentioned him to the media also.
They say he has been badly advised.
Not sure how he is going to fit in at the Sharks but without doubt White's Bishops connection played a role.
Very good news for me - a Shark supporter. I am not sure why White would contract Swiel - unless he has other options in mind. Maybe he wants to Move SP Marais to wing and use Swiel as full back - or maybe e wants him to alternate with Lambie as flyhalf abd Marais at full back. One of the best ball sense players I have eve seen - so it would be interesting to see how White intends to use him.
Likely to be a very important player in the Sharks backline next year. Whatever he does - a backline of the following would be electric insofar as the Sharks are concerned - expect fire works from them next year in Super 15:-
15 Swiel
14 Marais
13 Jordaan
12 Whitehead
11 Mvovo
10 Lambie
9 Reinach
All the above has serious speed and since they play clever games - thy would be hard to contain.
Shezza
As I said - I am not sure why the Sharks contracted him - because they have already Lambie and SP Marais as flyhalf and full back. Swiel can play both - matter of fact from what I have seen of him he is really excellent in both positions. Maybe it is for backing up those two players.
The other backline player I have not mentioned is Francois Steyn. I do not know how he can fit into the backline - since he is rather slow as a center. Despite all the talk about his performance and all the laurels handed out - if you analyse every time he touched the ball and every tackle he attempted - his tackle count and his ball handling during the game was limited and his work rate on the low side -so what White intents to do with him is also somewhat of a mystery. Probably put him on a strict diet to get his weight down to about 105 kgs and put him on a speed enhancement programme. From his early days with the Sharks I always was a strong Steun supporter. On his return from France he was over-weight and slower than I remembered him. Despite all the criticism - I hope that he would get really back to his form he had before going to France. If so he would have an excellent chance to regain his previous form.
Anyway - lets wait and see what happens next year in Super 15. If Swiel plays - he will be nice and cheap in fantasy selection anyway.
kingcorn
Careful what you say here - Mozart is not the forgiving oke - his hero and great no 13 - the best in SA at present - is Juan de Jongh. Since I am past the forgiving stage insofar as Mozart is concerned, I will be frank - the best of that lot you mentioned is Van Awegen - but even he is not anything better than a back up flyhalf - the rest are not really near even that level.
Thje worst flyhalf I have ever seen in a CC final was Coleman after he came on as a result of the injury to Catrakillis.
Kolbe is nice to look at and slippery - but at 69 kgs he is way too small to ever play 15 man rugby - he should be worthwhile in Sevens rugby.
And what happened? White picked Far Fransie and he on his own destroyed the Sharks backline in 2014 Super Rugby. The center that is not a center and a flyhalf who cannot decide on anything but handing over ball possession to the opposition - setting a record in that which will stand for the next 50 years,
End result White got fired by the Sharks after a year because of Fatso.
E njoy
Frans carried that team in 2014. That was where they were undone, by the passengers. Lambie and Jordaan let the team down.
Here is the 2014 history of the Sharks in Supers...I have high-lighted, Frans Steyn, Pat Lambie, Tim Swiel and Fred Zelinga.
Judge for yourselves...there are some contadictions by posters
Sharks 31–16 Bulls Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
19:10 Try: Paul Jordaan Try 10'
Cobus Reinach Try 21'
Odwa Ndungane Try 40'
Patrick Lambie Try 83'
Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 40' (1/4)
Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 4', 32', 47' (3/3)
François Steyn (0/2)
Cards: Jean Deysel Temporarily suspended from 66' to 77' 66' to 77' Report[11]
22 February 2014 Sharks 27–9 Hurricanes Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
17:05 Try: Willem Alberts Try 20'
Lwazi Mvovo Try 65'
Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 21' (1/2)
Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 6', 43', 58', 78', 81' (5/5)
Report[27]
8 March 2014 Sharks 37–23 Lions Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
19:10 Try: Paul Jordaan Try 8'
Cobus Reinach Try 38'
Odwa Ndungane Try 50'
Marcell Coetzee Try 80'
Con: François Steyn Kick 9', 39', 51', 81' (4/4)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 21', 24', 34' (3/3)
Cards: Ryan Kankowski Temporarily suspended from 64' to 74' 64' to 74' Report[60]
Scoreboard[61] Try: Faf de Klerk Try 64'
Deon van Rensburg Try 68'
Con: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 65', 69' (2/2)
Pen: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 12', 16', 37' (3/3)
Cards: Corné Fourie Yellow card 74' Attendance: 28,158
Referee: Jaco Peyper
Bye/s: Chiefs, Highlanders, Waratahs
Round 5
15 March 2014 Sharks 35–20 Reds Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
17:05 Try: Willem Alberts Try 27'
Dale Chadwick Try 77'
Con: Patrick Lambie Kick 28', 78' (2/2)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 10', 37' (2/2)
Patrick Lambie Kick 19', 23', 26', 34', 59' (5/5)
Report[74]
Scoreboard[75] Try:
22 March 2014 Bulls 23–19 Sharks Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
19:10 Try: Jacques du Plessis Try 48'
JJ Engelbrecht Try 53'
Con: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 49', 54' (2/2)
Pen: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 15' (1/1)
Handré Pollard Kick 79' (1/1)
Drop: Jacques-Louis Potgieter Kick 22' (1/2)
Handré Pollard (0/1)
Report[88]
Scoreboard[89] Try: Willem Alberts Try 8'
Con: Tim Swiel Kick 9' (1/1)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 37', 40', 67', 70' (4/5)
Drop: François Steyn (0/2)
29 March 2014 Sharks 32–10 Waratahs Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
17:05 Try: Marcell Coetzee Try 50'
Keegan Daniel Try 72'
Con: Fred Zeilinga Kick 51', 73' (2/2)
Pen: Fred Zeilinga Kick 10', 17', 22', 65', 80' (5/5)
François Steyn Kick 38' (1/2)
Report[100]
Scoreboar
12 April 2014 Lions 12–25 Sharks Ellis Park Stadium, Johannesburg
19:10 Pen: Marnitz Boshoff Kick 19', 33', 58', 65' (4/4)
Drop: Marnitz Boshoff (0/1)
Report[126]
Scoreboard[127] Try: Lwazi Mvovo Try 67'
Con: François Steyn Kick 68' (1/1)
Pen: Fred Zeilinga Kick 4', 6' (2/3)
François Steyn Kick 48', 51', 63', 72' (4/6)
Drop: François Steyn (0/2)
Cards: Jannie du Plessis Temporarily suspended from 18' to 28' 18' to 2
19 April 2014 Sharks 19–8 Cheetahs Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
15:00 Try: Jean Deysel Try 71'
Con: François Steyn Kick 72' (1/1)
Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 32' (1/3)
François Steyn Kick 46', 51', 62' (3/4)
Drop: François Steyn (0/1)
Report[136]
Scoreboard[13
25 April 2014 Sharks 18–34 Highlanders Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
19:10 Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 7', 13', 21', 40', 44', 50' (6/8)
Drop: François Steyn (0/1)
Report[144]
Scoreboard[145] Try:
2 May 2014 Rebels 16–22 Sharks AAMI Park, Melbourne
19:40 Try: Patrick Leafa Try 70'
Con: Jason Woodward Kick 71' (1/1)
Pen: Jason Woodward Kick 20', 28', 55' (3/3)
Report[154]
Scoreboard[155] Try: JP Pietersen Try 64'
Con: François Steyn Kick 65' (1/1)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 21', 26', 30', 35', 38' (5
10 May 2014 Brumbies 16–9 Sharks GIO Stadium, Canberra
19:40 Try: Sam Carter Try 63'
Con: Christian Lealiifano Kick 64' (1/1)
Pen: Christian Lealiifano Kick 2', 37', 48' (3/6)
Nic White (0/1)
Report[172]
Scoreboard[173] Pen: François Steyn Kick 15', 45', 72' (3/6)
17 May 2014 Crusaders 25–30 Sharks AMI Stadium, Christchurch
19:35 Try: Colin Slade Try 13'
Con: Colin Slade Kick 14' (1/1)
Pen: Colin Slade Kick 17', 31', 48', 59', 65', 74' (6/9)
Report[182]
Scoreboard[183] Try: S'bura Sithole Try 9'
Cobus Reinach Try 42'
Kyle Cooper Try 76'
Con: François Steyn Kick 10', 43' (2/2)
Tim Swiel Kick 77' (1/1)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 40', 52' (2/3)
Tim Swiel Kick 69' (1/1)
Drop: François Steyn (0/1)
Cards: Jean Deysel Red card 17'
Willem Alberts Temporarily suspended from 64' to 74' 64' to 74'
23 May 2014 Blues 23–29 Sharks QBE Stadium, Albany
19:35 Try: Luke Braid Try 43'
Tevita Li Try 67'
Con: Simon Hickey Kick 43' (1/1)
Ihaia West Kick 68' (1/1)
Pen: Simon Hickey Kick 8', 18' (2/3)
Ihaia West Kick 73' (1/1)
Report[191]
Scoreboard[192] Try: Bismarck du Plessis Try 11'
Cobus Reinach Try 55'
Con: François Steyn Kick 12', 56' (2/2)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 6', 34', 51' (3/4)
SP Marais Kick 70' (1/1)
Drop: François Steyn Kick 27' (1/1)
Cards: Jannie du Plessis Temporarily suspended from 42' to 53' 42' to 53'
François Steyn Temporarily suspended from 62' to 72' 62' to 72'
31 May 2014 Sharks 19–21 Stormers Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
19:10 Try: Cobus Reinach Try 39'
Con: François Steyn Kick 40' (1/1)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 3', 10', 29', 48' (4/6)
Drop: François Steyn (0/1)
Cards: Marcell Coetzee Temporarily suspended from 63' to 73' 63' to 73' Report[217]
5 July 2014 Cheetahs 27–20 Sharks Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein
19:10 Try: Torsten van Jaarsveld Try 8'
Philip van der Walt Try 33'
Lood de Jager Try 49'
Con: Johan Goosen Kick 9', 34', 49' (3/3)
Pen: Johan Goosen Kick 3', 56' (2/2)
Cards: Johan Goosen Yellow card 80' Report[239]
Scoreboard[240] Try: Cobus Reinach Try 22'
Bismarck du Plessis Try 74'
Con: Tim Swiel Kick 23', 75' (2/2)
Pen: Tim Swiel Kick 19', 27' (2/3)
12 July 2014 Stormers 10–34 Sharks DHL Newlands, Cape Town
19:10 Try: Nizaam Carr Try 16'
Con: Kurt Coleman Kick 17' (1/1)
Pen: Kurt Coleman Kick 36' (1/2)
Report[255]
Scoreboard[256] Try: Paul Jordaan Try 38'
S'bura Sithole Try 76'
Stefan Ungerer Try 81'
Con: François Steyn Kick 39', 77' (2/2)
Fred Zeilinga (0/1)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 4', 22', 25', 28', 45' (5/6)
Cards: Willem Alberts Temporarily suspended from 15' to 26' 15' to 26'
19 July 2014 Sharks 31–27 Highlanders Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
17:05 Try: Marcell Coetzee Try 13'
Bismarck du Plessis Try 53'
Tonderai Chavhanga Try 56'
Con: François Steyn Kick 14', 54' (2/3)
Pen: François Steyn Kick 3', 30', 74', 80' (4/5)
Report[259]
26 July 2014 Crusaders 38–6 Sharks AMI Stadium, Christchurch
19:35 Try: Kieran Read Try 17'
Nemani Nadolo Try 49'
Willi Heinz Try 65'
Johnny McNicholl Try 70'
Matt Todd Try 78'
Con: Dan Carter Kick 18', 66' (2/5)
Pen: Dan Carter Kick 3', 28', 31' (3/4)
Report[261]
Scoreboard[262] Pen: Patrick Lambie Kick 22', 35' (2/4)