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Swyss Debruin Slams New Zealand Moaners & Excuses

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
28 Jul 2018, 01:02
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28 Jul 2018, 01:02#1
Swys slams Kiwi complainers of Super Rugby format2018-07-27 12:05
Swys de Bruin (Gallo Images)

Cape Town - Lions coach Swys de Bruin has fired back at the perception of New Zealand sides that the Super Rugby format is favoured against them. 


The Waratahs and Lions ended the Super Rugby regular season with fewer points yet finished above the Hurricanes and Chiefs in the overall standings due to what the New Zealand media have branded as an unfair system.


But Lions mentor De Bruin hit back, saying that South African sides had to travel much more in comparison to their New Zealand opponents, which he said had been shown to unfairly disadvantage them towards the latter part of their tours.

“That’s their perception,” De Bruin told Reuters.

“All I can tell you is that we never moan about travelling four weeks (to New Zealand and Australia) or blaming that.

“We travel four weeks and they travel two. It makes a hell of a difference. Look at our results week three and four overseas.”

The Lions emerged victorious on just one of four occasions when playing in New Zealand and Australia this season. Many have called for a return to the round-robin format where every team plays each other at least once, something that De Bruin agrees upon.

"They (should) just get on the with the job,” he said.

We’re a no-moan team. I’m almost feeling sorry that I said it now because it sounds like I’m moaning.

“But sport is an interesting thing, it can’t always be the ref ... or the competition format or injuries. You’ve got to play the hand that was dealt with you.

“But honestly now every time I’ve read something from down there (in New Zealand) it’s just reading that, so I would like to read something else for a change.”''


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The New Zealand forward fetchers would be shipped home black and blue if they had to feel the might of our packs in four home games. I am tired of hearing these excuses myself. 

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Jul 2018, 02:51
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28 Jul 2018, 02:51#2
Sharkbok, they’d only be excuses if we were losing....
PO
polyboyClub Pro601 posts
28 Jul 2018, 06:24
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28 Jul 2018, 06:24#3

In this professional area surely if teams know they have long haul flights where jet lag is a factor, you use the scientific knowledge available and fly your team out as early as possible to acclimatize and lessen the effects.  This is the professional era where travel is expected as part of SR, but also the structure of the competition dictates standings and this should also be accepted.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
28 Jul 2018, 11:00
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28 Jul 2018, 11:00#4

Well then just play each team once home and away .Get rid of another Aussie team and the Sunnies if you have to.Would rather no t see endless home derbies thanks all the same .

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Jul 2018, 11:05
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28 Jul 2018, 11:05#5

The complaining  Kiwis are very tiresome. They need to take some St John's Wort - hear it improves the mood!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
28 Jul 2018, 21:40
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28 Jul 2018, 21:40#6
The Jaguars have a much harder travel schedule than any team in the tournament, and this has surely affected their results. Their travel schedule is ridiculous. 
New Zealand has 4 local teams to play against (due to having the most depth of any country in the competition).Australia is a short flight. Then a short 2 match tour of SA, and maybe a game in Argentina.
It does seem as if the schedule is designed for New Zealand teams, then the other teams are just lumped with whatever is given to them 

If the Jaguars were being scientific about flying would mean that their are never home... This is one of the reasons that SA wanted more teams in the tournament, as it meant less travel.
I agree that Auckland Blues and one Australian team should be dropped, along with the Sunwolves. What is the point of going to play an average team that just complicates the travel schedule more? If Argentina had more depth (or fewer players in Europe), then it would be better to have a second team here.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Jul 2018, 02:39
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29 Jul 2018, 02:39#7

So geography is our fault ? 

SARU pushed for the system in place and NZ just have no real choice but to go along with it .4 saffa teans 3 Aussies the Jags and the 5 Kiwis would be about right .

Round robin id the go.

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
29 Jul 2018, 03:09
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29 Jul 2018, 03:09#8

Got to love it, Beeno moaning in a thread about Kiwi's moaning hahahahahaha

Us Kiwi's only come to this site so we can laugh at all the Saffa's moan about everything  so its probably expected that they will moan in case someone takes their only trophy (in moaning) off them. Saffa's the whinging poms of the Southern hemisphere

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2018, 03:12
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29 Jul 2018, 03:12#9

Everyone made decisions for wrong reasons. For South Africa it was political reasons, for Australia it was to guarantee a playoff team, and New Zealand would indirectly benefit. There was also greed. At no point was rugby a priority in these decisions. What a tragedy. 

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