When Willie was carded was the time for boldness. The kick wasn’t assured and with a man up it was time to kick for the corner. Tactically we saw NZ the more timid team, kicking away good ball with short box kicks and really having no leadership in the back division.
If I were an AB supporter I’d be proud of the effort, but somewhat bemused about what the vaunted Razor leadership was bringing. Odd selections and timid tactics so far.
NZ is going through what is on the horizon for the Boks in a few years - lost the bulk of their best players to retirement last year, new coach and no settled starting team or style of play . I think it's clear now that Ireland was indeed our biggest challenge. NZ is not on that level at the moment.
Pakie
Your forecasti is what in polite society is called BS. Erasmus has a replacement program for every elderly player to be replaced and two are already regulars in the team - namely Sacha and Fassi, The rest will be brought in regularly in future. In the case of the forwards there ae a question in respect of Du Toit and the same applies to Etzebeth - they are exremely rare freaks happening only once every 50 years. But replacements are alsready looked at and will come clear in the coming two years,
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Mozart
They did not because they were under too much pressure and the kicks they made was not strategic at all.
Pakie and Mpwer
Do you think Erasmus is an idiot? Do he know more than you 2 on the issue of replacment of players and would hve planed the situation as well.
Noolaa
Sorry to disappoint you - but so is he Springbok team. However, Erasmus is a top star copach - much like Hansen was in New Zealand - but unlike Hansen is planning the transition carefully and bringing in new players. And more will come in as time goes by ntil 2027 when the Springboks will win their 3rd World Cup title in a row IN 2027.
So far this year Erasmus brought in Feinberg-Mngomezulu, Fassi and Moodie in the backline and Steenekamp, Nortje and Dixon amongst the forwards, Others are to follow sooner rather than later, Elsewhere I mentione to locks in Van Heerden and Schickerling not even n the squad against teams yet. Both are better than any locks the All Blacks have, - but neither is even in the squad this year - but will show up in the squad next year,
In the NZ discussion of the Springboks the past week in thE Breakthrough progrm the commenttors referred to the huge resources the Springbok management under Erasmus have to bring into the team - more than any other country in the world. That is expanding also due to the increasing number of Black and Coloureds in the talent poo l.
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"Would you have been able to do that in NZ??"
Probably not...but we did twice on neutral ground...ja, ja red card, I know...4 - Zip...lekkerrr...it doesn't get much better than this.
moolaa, you sound almost surprised that ou Maaik might say something ridiculous.
All Blacks played well. I thought it was a brilliant test match by both teams.
"It will if you can beat us in NZ Draad! We’ll be waiting….."
Rassie's 1st match we did...but yes, I agree with you...this streak would have been way better if it included a win in NZ....over the last 30 odd years we only managed to beat you in NZ 4 times...3 times in Wellington and once in Carisbrook.
Mozart
The memebrs are harping on abou the ag of gthe team and you claimed that for instance Willie and Polard are still key players despite the fact what Erasmus himself said about them. Effecctively both have already been replaced and it was for me what is surprisng he played the majority of the tests this year they have not played in the tests as starters.
You also spoke about players like Malherbe who is still in the team as a starter - but has often only played for half of te match. Sacha started in more tests than Pollard did and even though it is early days was clearly better than Pollard is at present. .
I do not rate the present AB Locks - they have poor ones a present ad no sign that they can be replaced. .
What make it weird is that the Breakthrough NZ commenttors said that the Springboks has a better talent pool than any other top team in the world and you and Moolaa claimed otherwise.
I am amazed about the fact that despite the claims that the Springbok team changes and bringin new payes are being ignored by you and Moolaa and that both of you know better than Erasmus for the need to replace te old gueard and Erasmus is doing nothig about it. You climed all the time that Erasmus is a poor coach and is idiotic in that regard,
My claim is that unlike everybody else who claim Erasmus is a top class coach - you claim otherwse and has been since he was appointed in 2018 and claimed he should never have been appointed.
You both claimed that the players he has need for all to be replaced - while you in idiocy claimed that Meyer was right to bring back retired players into his squads and you supported that idiocy all out. Erasmus has never brought back a retired player into the team. You claimed that Erasmus is an idiot and does not realize the team needs to be changed gradually to phase out key players and that Erasmus does not realize the need for change and is not changing anybody.
My clam is that the Sprinmgboks are also in a changing phase and althouh players like Etzbeth and Du Toit are really going to be difficult to replace they will be in tme to come. / . . . .
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Moolaa
Let me be more explicit. New Zealand's biggest mistak was to force SA and Argentina out of Super Rugby ending up playinmg substandard teams on franchise level - a bad way to find replacement players and NZ also lost major money in making changes.
To be quite frank the three locks a present used are substandard and if they play franchise rugby i SA they will struggle to make the S franchise teams. That is why I made remarks about Schickerling and Van Heerden.
Any renewal is largely influenced by the level of rugby played on franchise level and hat is where te NZ prb;m is a present. SA went north after that decision of NZ and is playing much stronger NH teams than New Zealand does in heiresion fo Super Rugby and t eases he emergence and that makes i easier to identify top potential players.than it is for New Zealand.to do he same.
So ive th t te declining value of eam selection by NZ is he result of a wrog and faulty decison by NZ rrugby in 2020 and that remans a wrngdecision irrespective of how you view it. SA had three shtcoaches in a row and now have a real coach for the first time in decades has a really good coach and it is showing in the results of the team after Erasmus was appointed in 2018. Two WC's and 2 C wins in five years sohows growth and unlike mzar's clais to the contrary the Sringboks are making changes and those will continue in 2025.and 2026.
I am now making a bold forecast - under Erasmus the Springboks will win the 2027 wc as well. I will be dead by then - but my spook will see it happening. LOL , .
I am sarcastic about my own situation - I am already 82 years old and by 2027 will be 85 year old. My parents had 3 sons and a daugher and am the only one still alive. Hope I make 2027 - but live on short term targets at present and the 2027 target is not one at all.
Like the great Russian Field Marshall Kutuzov who destroyed the French invasion in 1812 - I have a problem - I find it hard to sleep at night and fall asleep easily durng the day. So it is a problem for older people and in my case I made to many errors when posting for which I apologize,
Who is Eskom in the team anyway? .
Yes, Marco's selection baffles me...