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Taking the knee in Rugby

Started by Mozart20 REPLIES1,029 VIEWS· 28 Oct 2021, 23:39
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2021, 23:39
#1
28 Oct 2021, 23:39#1

…..it’s going to happen. Anybody who watches soccer in the UK has to wonder how rugby got a pass. More than likely participating in the next RWC will require the knee. 


It’s astonishing but the de Kock debacle made clear what we should  already have known. No sponsor can stay with a team or player who doesn’t comply once they askew asked. And they will be asked.



BE
becsPro4,378 posts
28 Oct 2021, 23:45
#2
28 Oct 2021, 23:45#2

It happened throughout the last season, Mozart. This year has been more sensible thus far. 

Some of the England team have done it but others refused. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Oct 2021, 23:46
#3
28 Oct 2021, 23:46#3
Surely by 2023 the knee gesture will have long run its course, it already has
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
29 Oct 2021, 00:32
#4
29 Oct 2021, 00:32#4

I would rather take a bow for Poor Lives Matter rather than just make it about race. The impact of Covid has hit the poor the hardest all around the world. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Oct 2021, 00:50
#5
29 Oct 2021, 00:50#5

It will be back for RwC 2023 for sure.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
29 Oct 2021, 09:00
#6
29 Oct 2021, 09:00#6

The freedom of our minds is being usurped everywhere and now moving into sport...it's pure rape of the right to think independ ently and believe according to private values, beliefs and convictions...turning people into human robots and automatons.

Freedom of thought is under attack – here's how to save your mind


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Oct 2021, 09:25
#7
29 Oct 2021, 09:25#7

I have no doubt at all that there will be a lot of defiance displayed from players, and possibly also the paying public.... if this is enforced on all or most sporting codes....

It would be a real shame if this happened

Focusing and submitting to just the issues of one race, is absolutely pathetic and despicable

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
29 Oct 2021, 11:59
#8
29 Oct 2021, 11:59#8
Bowing is saying that the problems black people face around the world (like poverty) are entirely caused by other races, especially whites. 
I am yet to see anything from Black Lives Matter that takes any ownership of the problem - like parenting where most black children grow up without a father. 

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Oct 2021, 12:12
#9
29 Oct 2021, 12:12#9

"like parenting where most black children grow up without a father"

Sadly this is a irrefutable fact, that has also just never improved at all, over a long period of time...

Exactly like the founder of the BLM movement itself.... look what the first thing she did for herself with all the millions that she got from donations towards her movement....

I want to get me a new house

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Oct 2021, 22:28
#10
29 Oct 2021, 22:28#10

They won’t change as long as they are winning. And they will continue to win as long as the opposition consists of single individuals, or even single countries that are easily branded as racists.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
31 Oct 2021, 10:35
#11
31 Oct 2021, 10:35#11

How it is going to happen.

Comical how people favour a short memory.

It has already happened with the SA slackers who took every opportunity possible to take a knee and ruin the 100 th game between SA and NZ.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Oct 2021, 12:07
#12
31 Oct 2021, 12:07#12

Support for the BLM movement is collapsing in the USA.

I say to hell with taking the knee and with BLM. These people are extreme racists who have a fit if anybody says ALL lives matter.

The Founders of BLM were on the Communist News Network proudly proclaiming they are trained Marxists!

Just like the woke feminist movement they have zero interest in black folks welfare. Zero. Their violent protest, burning and looting hurt, killed and destroyed black lives and businesses.

BLM is just another Globalist Marxist ploy to destroy Western Civilization and the democracies they birthed. They have many tools in their toolbox all aimed at destroying the USA and the western democracies en route to their Globalist One World Government Tyranny.

The same goes for these 'vaccine' mandates passports etc. They have zero to do with health issues. 


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Oct 2021, 12:29
#13
31 Oct 2021, 12:29#13
On the surface it’s seems BLMs support for community parenting is opposed to two-parent households. Yet, in a population where single parent households are so abundant, doesn’t it make sense to promote community parenting? It wasn’t BLM that caused black dads to hit the road. That’s something that curved upwards directly in correlation with blacks gaining more freedom. The same is true in SA, the US, Europe… Problem is, I don’t think I’m the only one that sees “community parenting” resulting in more and worse ghettos because it means less people are directly responsible for what happens in their neighbourhoods. Were I a gangbanger I’d also be calling for less cops, less dads and more power to woman that nobody listens to.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Oct 2021, 12:48
#14
31 Oct 2021, 12:48#14

Black woman Candace Owens has been highlighting single parents as the biggest issue facing Black folk. 

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
31 Oct 2021, 12:57
#15
31 Oct 2021, 12:57#15

They've halved their population over the past 45 years through abortion. They have around 77% fatherless homes. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Oct 2021, 17:34
#16
31 Oct 2021, 17:34#16

Nothing wrong with taking the knee, but everything wrong with forcing people to do it.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
01 Nov 2021, 23:47
#17
01 Nov 2021, 23:47#17

Any support for a racial mob or any form of discrimination is wrong and fuels the fanatical zombies.

Sure their has been discrimination in this world from day one in one form or another but that does not excuse the act or make it right.

I took a stand when the MCC selected an ex Saffer of color to tour South Africa not to be a hero but to keep politics out of sport and also to honor the man for his skill as a cricketer who could not represent his country of birth because of his skin color.

Not only was I physically attacked but my business was deleted from municipal and government tendering, our property damaged on numerous occasions.

Hindered and hunted in every avenue of social life but never buckled under all that pressure to surrendered my stand.

But I will never support any group who are militant and violent to force their mandate and infringe on our sport, religion or security.

So screw the knee, the clenched fist and all that BLM garbage and act like decent human beings and find acceptance by being one of us not against us and time will eventually help us all to live in harmony.

Force and hate never works in any form.


TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Nov 2021, 14:26
#18
04 Nov 2021, 14:26#18

So much hatred in this thread.

What jesus did say about the speck and the beam... Well, it does not matter.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
04 Nov 2021, 14:54
#19
04 Nov 2021, 14:54#19

The only "hatred" on this thread is posters for each other...I used to think they did it out of some sort of twisted sense of humour but I'm not so sure anymore. Couple of them need to approach professionals in regards to mental health, it seems.

As for "issues" like BLM and "bending knee" are just tactics by politicians and activists with hidden political agendas.

All lives matter, period and bending knee is an invasion and mockery of an individuals personal values and beliefs to get compliance and obedience of what are politicians indoctrination agendas.

It's plain bullshit.

Black people tend to harbour too much resentment and are blamers for every thing that goes wrong in their lives, on the whiteman.

That too is plain bullshit.

In fact in the SA ,black people are far more conscious of the colour of your skin than whites.

When you are so conscious of this that's discrimination in the worst terms.

To be free of this one should not be conscious, at least in judgement of the colour of anybody's skin.

However a worse syndrome has always been in the world and that is hatred for nations. Anti Japanese, anti English, anti Americans, anti Chinese and anti Russians as well as many others. This ugliness in people is even worse because it's based on perception that is propagated by politicians.

That sadly is never addressed and is thought to be justified. 

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Nov 2021, 16:37
#20
04 Nov 2021, 16:37#20

Very well said Seb

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
04 Nov 2021, 18:03
#21
04 Nov 2021, 18:03#21


Yep fatherless families are common among most countries in Africa and my family helped a black women with three children to survive and receive a decent education in RSA. 

No father around and no offer from him of assistance or care for his family.

Shocking but true.

Unfortunately in the USA and other parts of Africa a large portion of the abortions that are carried out are on blacks.

No abortion is right.

But try telling BLM members that.

ALL LIVES MATTER.

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