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TEAM OF THE WEEK

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Nov 2013, 02:23
#1
19 Nov 2013, 02:23#1

The Southern Hemisphere's giants won three of their four encounters with their Northern Hemisphere rivals at the weekend.

Wales's 40-6 demolition of the hapless Argentina was the only triumph for a Six Nations team against a Rugby Championship (SANZAR) opponent.

And these results are reflected in our famous weekly selection.

New Zealand and Australia provide the bulk of our starting XV with five players each, after they beat England and Ireland respectively.

South African, following their impressive shut-out of Scotland, provide three players of our first-choice squad - while Wales and England make up the numbers with one each.

The Springboks are further rewarded for their fine performance in our back-up squad with six members 'bubbling under'.

Australia, France, England (two each), New Zealand, Ireland and Tonga (one each) make up the numbers.

Three players return from last week - centre Jean de Villiers (South Africa), flyhalf Quade Cooper (Australia) and No.8 Kieran Read (New Zealand).

Team of the Week - November, Round Three:

15 - Willie le Roux (South Africa):
There were two sublime moments of magic, but what won our vote was the vision he showed in setting up JP Pietersen's try.
Bubbling under: Israel Folau (Australia)

14 - Charles Piutau (New Zealand):
Won a crucial penalty turnover and produced a number of promising and incisive runs.
Bubbling under: JP Pietersen (South Africa)

13 - Ben Smith (New Zealand):
Was very active on attack and making great strides as an outside centre, even though he is not the finished article yet.
Bubbling under: Gaël Fickou (France)

12 - Jean de Villiers (South Africa):
Amazing that he still has so many critics, given the form he is in.
Bubbling under: Matt Toomua (Australia)

11 - Julian Savea (New Zealand):
His defence may have been below par (three missed tackles), but it was on attack where he was at his most destructive.
Bubbling under: Fergus McFadden (Ireland)

10 - Quade Cooper (Australia):
He is repaying the faith shown in him by Ewen McKenzie.
Bubbling under: Pat Lambie (South Africa)

9 - Mike Phillips (Wales):
Not the most consistent player, but when he is on form he can be pretty devastating.
Bubbling under: Fourie du Preez (South Africa)

8 - Kieran Read (New Zealand):
Simply the best ... player in the world!
Bubbling under: Duane Vermeulen (South Africa)

7 - Michael Hooper (Australia):
Received a yellow card and missed a few tackles, but still the most influential openside flank at the weekend.
Bubbling under: Richie McCaw (New Zealand)

6 - Francois Louw (South Africa);
Made a real nuisance of himself at the breakdown, won a line-out and had a few decent carries. However, it was on defence where he was most effective.
Bubbling under: Tom Wood (England)

5 - Sam Whitelock (New Zealand):
Anytime a lock makes 19 tackles, take five line-outs and touch the ball seven times in open play you can write his name down for our team.
Bubbling under: Flip van der Merwe (South Africa)

4 - Rob Simmons (Australia):
He provided the physical presence that the Wallabies needed against the Irish bruisers.
Bubbling under: Tukulua Lokotui (Tonga)

3 - Dan Cole (England):
Probably not the most mobile prop, but does the basics so well.
Bubbling under: Nicolas Mas (France)

2 - Stephen Moore (Australia):
Had one of his better days at the office and the Wallabies reaped the rewards.
Bubbling under: Adriaan Strauss (South Africa)

1 - James Slipper (Australia):
You would not expect to see an Aussie prop here, but it was his work outside the scrums that saw him edge Cian Healy, Marcos Ayerza and Joe Marler.
Bubbling under: Joe Marler (England)

Our individual selections:

Paul Dobson XV: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Charles Piutau, 13 Gaël Fickou, 12 Luke Marshall, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Morgan Parra, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Courtney Lawes, 4 Tukulua Lokotui, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Cian Healy.

Michael de Vries XV: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Ben Smith, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Tom Wood, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Marcos Ayerza.

Quintin van Jaarsveld XV: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 George North, 13 Ben Smith, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Fergus McFadden, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 James Slipper.

Jan de Koning XV: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Charles Piutau, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Matt Toomua, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Joe Marler.

Previous selection:

Team of the Week - November, Round Two: 15 Brice Dulin (France), 14 Cory Jane (New Zealand), 13 Tevita Kuridrani (Australia), 12 Jean de Villiers (South Africa), 11 Nick Cummins (Australia), 10 Quade Cooper (Australia), 9 Fourie du Preez (South Africa), 8 Kieran Read (New Zealand), 7 Willem Alberts (South Africa), 6 Thierry Dusautoir (France), 5 Courtney Lawes (England), 4 Joe Launchbury (England), 3 Nicolas Mas (France), 2 Bismarck du Plessis (South Africa), 1 Marcos Ayerza (Argentina).

Team of the Week - November, Round One: 15 Mike Brown (England), 14 Charles Piutau (New Zealand), 13 Ben Smith (New Zealand), 12 Francis Saili (New Zealand), 11 Frank Halai (New Zealand), 10 Daniel Carter (New Zealand), 9 Fumiaki Tanaka (Japan), 8 Billy Vunipola (England), 7 Chris Robshaw (England), 6 Tom Wood (England), 5 James Horwill (Australia), 4 Jeremy Thrush (New Zealand), 3 Dan Cole (England), 2 Shota Horie (Japan), 1 Mako Vunipola (England).

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 02:27
#2
19 Nov 2013, 02:27#2
Where are Bakkies, Fourie and the mighty Steenkamp huh?
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 02:48
#3
19 Nov 2013, 02:48#3
 Where are Habana, JDV, Bismarck, Adriaan Strauss, Coenie, etc, etc, huh?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:02
#4
19 Nov 2013, 03:02#4
Vlagtwat you really are a thick shit.....last I checked Coenie and Bismark never started........Jean, Habana and Strauss dont make my Bok starting side
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:05
#5
19 Nov 2013, 03:05#5
 Who gives a flying shit about your Bok start ing side in any case?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:06
#6
19 Nov 2013, 03:06#6
 Saffex
 
Status: Rugby Legend 
Posts: 6109The side that should play France
November 17, 2013, 23:29:57

Lets hope Meyer is honest with himself and concedes that some of his experiments have flopped. None more so than Fourie at 13 who has left the Boks with no attacking clout out wide.



The team I would select would be:



15. Willie 14. JP 13. JJ 12. Jean 11. Habana 10. Lambie 9. du Preez 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Coenie 4. Etzebeth 5. Flip 6. Kolisi 7. Alberts 8. Vermeulen 



16. Strauss 17. Steenkamp 18. Adriaanse 19. Steph du Toit 20. Coetzee 21. Pienaar 22. Goosen 23. Serfontein

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:09
#7
19 Nov 2013, 03:09#7
  "12. Jean 11. Habana"

"Jean, Habana and Strauss dont make my Bok starting side " Huhh?

I think you are getting tired. Go make yourself a Horlicks and go to bed before you humiliate yourself even more.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:13
#8
19 Nov 2013, 03:13#8
Twatbok................bit difficult to select players that are not in the squad.......try again you twit.
My Boks backline, injuries aside would be:
15. Frans/Taute 14.JP 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Willie 10. Goosen 9. Hougaard.........Moz will confirm this as he has it noted.

I dont see Jean and Habana's name on that list, do you?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:13
#9
19 Nov 2013, 03:13#9
Saffex you speak so much crap you cant even remember what you said.Here is a "post" from yesterday. 
Both Habana and Jean are in the team which is a surprise given they are not young players. 
Every other week you are saying they are past it, and naming curry cup level players who should be starting in the Springbok squad ahead of them.
Justin Marshall said before the match against Scotland that he thought Habana and Jean were in the form of their lives. 
Other than a joke,  your team of the week, and the team you recommend for the next week is pathetic other than its entertainment value from a self deluded Schizo.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:15
#10
19 Nov 2013, 03:15#10
Vlagtwat......is the squad clueless Meyer has brought on tour, the squad I would have selected you dumbass?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:16
#11
19 Nov 2013, 03:16#11
Are you saying that Serfontein is not in the squad? You are also repeatedly saying that  Leroux should be playing fullback
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:18
#12
19 Nov 2013, 03:18#12
Every time I see your latest squad/team I send up a big thank you that we are so fortunate not to have you as the national coach.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:29
#13
19 Nov 2013, 03:29#13
Oh Sharktwat I really struggle dealing with stupid people........I'LL STICK THIS IN CAPITALS FOR YOU AND HOPEFULLY IT SINKS IN. SERFONTEIN IS IN THE SQUAD BUT THE POOR LAD HAS NOT HAD A SINGLE MINUTE ON THE PARK THANKS TO CLUELESS MEYER DISCARDING HIM, SO AS MUCH AS I AM A BIG FAN, GIVEN HIS LACK OF GAME TIME I WOULD NOT THROW HIM IN THE DEEP END AGAINST FRANCE. I LIKE JEAN, BUT I PREFER SERFONTEIN. NOW IF IT HAD BEEN UP TO ME, FROM THE START OF THIS YEAR, SERFONTEIN WOULD HAVE BEEN MY BOK 12.

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY WITH WILLIE AT 15, AND YOU ARE CORRECT I PREFER HIM THERE THAN ON THE WING.......BUT TAUTE IS INJURED AND CLUELESS MEYER NEVER SELECTED FRANS........SO HERE GOES........AS MUCH AS HABANA MIGHT NOT MAKE MY IDEAL SIDE, I AM STILL A BIG FAN.....SO GIVEN THE SQUAD, WILLIE PLAYS 15 WITH HABANA AND JP ON THE WING. IF FRANS HAD BEEN ON TOUR, I WOULD HAVE PLAYED HIM AT 15, WITH WILLIE AND JP ON THE WINGS.

MY GUESS IS THAT YOU ARE TOO THICK TO COMPREHEND THIS BASIC FACT. YOU CAN TRY ALL YOU LIKE. BUT FACT REMAINS, MY BOK SIDE HAS CHANGED VERY LITTLE OVER THE YEAR - FACT
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:34
#14
19 Nov 2013, 03:34#14
Well Dutchie, I'd expect nothing less from you.........you laaaarger seuns love a bit of rugby conservatism..........magtige Morne!!
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:37
#15
19 Nov 2013, 03:37#15
Boooom there he goes again. On the Morne bandwagon. What a joke.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Nov 2013, 03:49
#16
19 Nov 2013, 03:49#16
The list of conservatism is endless, 61% Morne just happens to top that list. But to keep you happy, I'll retract magtige Morne and replace him with Steenkamp........happier? or would you prefer Fourie?
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Nov 2013, 04:02
#17
19 Nov 2013, 04:02#17
 What are you on about? You have clearly lost the plot. You made a poepol of yourself questioning the absence of the likes of Bakkies, etc on the so-called Team of the Week, compiled by some jack-shit journo. As if anybody at some stage claimed that they should have been in this BS Team of the Week. I took the piss out of your remark and you were too thick to even notice it. You and ou Maaikie are one and the same in that regard. You are so laughable that that is the only thing that one could do with the majority of your posts. Have a piss at them. You are both so predictable that one can predict what your remarks, after the game, is going to be the moment that the teams are announced.

Saffex

 

There is one comment I disagree with you totally and that is on Francois  Steyn.  He is definitely not matchfit and Meyer could not selet him for the squad this time around - especially since -

 

*  before his latest injury he really was not up to standard in Super 15; and

 

*  in evaluating his first game after his 5 month absence he was not up to standard either - despite one good tackle he put in on De Allende. 

 

You yourself said previously that he is too slow to be a full back.  I personally think that from that perspective Taut would be a better option than Steyn and it is likely that SP Marais would also be better.

 

However, I do think that the matter will be clarified during the forthcoming Super 15 series and performances during that series will open up possible selection for the test side.  It would be interesting to see in which position White utilizes  Steyn.   He may have a personal liking for Steyn - but whether he will play him at 12 is questionable.   His lack of speed may count against him at 15 or 13.   Be it as it may - a number of players will have to proof their real present value during Super 5 next year - and Steyn and Taute are two of those.

 

Meyer said earlier that the present tour is the last opportunity for some players o be part of the squad.   Hopefully it would include most of the foreign-based players inclusive of Kirchner, Morne Steyn, Jaque Fourie (unless he really shows something on Saturday - since he showed no value thus far), Ruan Pienaar, Bakkies Botha (showed nothing in the Scotland test) and Gurthro Steenkamp.   

 

What really is amazing is what some members do to promote the players they favour.   If Du Toit played on Saturday and had the stats Bakkies Botha in fact produced, he would be condemned for the next five years as inadequate.   Suddenly in the case of Botha a barely satisfactory performance confirmed by stats is falsely presented as of high value and he has proven his acceptance as a test player.   In their desperation to do just that - the stats are ignored - because they do not support their outrageous claims.    

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