RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Oct 2013, 20:00#1
Springboks: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14
Willie le Roux, 13 JJ Engelbrecht / Jan Serfontein, 12 Jean de Villiers
(captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane
Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben
Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Substitutes:
16, Adriaan Strauss, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19
Franco van der Merwe, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23
Jan Serfontein / Juan de Jongh
All Blacks: 15
Israel Dagg, 14 Ben Smith, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Julian
Savea, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw
(captain), 6 Liam Messam, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Charlie
Faumuina, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock
Substitutes: 16 Dane
Coles, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Ben Franks, 19 Steven Luatua, 20 Sam Cane,
21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 22 Beauden Barrett, 23 Charles Piutau
For the Springboks, JJ Engelbrecht and Jan Serfontein are bracketed pending a fitness test on JJ's quad with Juan de Jongh ready to take his place on the bench if required. Juandre Kruger replaces the suspended Flip van der Merwe with the uncapped Franco van der Merwe coming onto the bench. As expected, Bismarck du Plessis and Adriaan Strauss rotate again.
For the All Blacks Richie McCaw replaces Sam Cane at openside flank while Charlie Faumaina replaces the injured Owen Franks at tighthead prop with Ben Franks coming onto the bench.
Go Bokke!
Edit: here's the Pumas team to play (and hopefully smash!) the Wallabies . . .
Argentina: 15 Juan Martin Hernandez, 14 Horacio Agulla, 13
Marcelo Bosch, 12 Felipe Contepomi, 11 Juan Imhoff, 10 Nicolas Sanchez, 9
Martin Landajo, 8 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7 Pablo Matera, 6 Juan Martin
Fernandez Lobbe (captain), 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Julio Farias Cabello,
3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guinazu, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements:
16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Nahuel Lobo, 18 Juan Pablo Orlandi, 19 Manuel
Carizza, 20 Benjamn Macome, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Santiago Fernandez, 23
Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino.
Felipe Contepomi and Horacio Aguila return at the expense of Santiago Fernandez and Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino respectively.
Edit: And the Wallaby team courtesy of Oimatey:
Wallabies: Israel
Folau, Joe Tomane, Tevita Kuridrani, Christian Lealiifano, Adam
Ashley-Cooper, Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Ben Mowen, Michael Hooper,
Scott Fardy, James Horwill (c), Rob Simmons, Ben Alexander, Stephen
Moore, James Slipper.
Replacements: Saia Faingaa, Benn Robinson, Sekope Kepu, Sitaleki Timani, Ben McCalman, Nic White, Matt Toomua, Bernard Foley.
Right, time to go finalize my fantasy teams.
Vamos los Pumas and GOOOO BOKKE!!!!!!!!
MDMonkey D Luffy
Pro6,277 posts
MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
02 Oct 2013, 20:15#2
@rooy,
would u mind doing the pumas and wallabies too, ive been a bit distracted by GTA V, o_O
no surprises in either team, du preez is the key for the Boks, his form has been first class in 2013.
big fan of jj, but seeing serfontein possibly start is a big plus.
dont mind coles on the bench , for the All Blacks cos we need this grooming process to keep on rolling, but i would have a lot more comfortable with kev there instead.
plenty of matches in 2013 to sharpen coles claws on, but we need all hands on deck for Boks at ellis, and the more experienced the better.
epic match coming up.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Oct 2013, 20:22#3
Sasuke, no sweat, I'll update the Pumas team but I might be late with the Wallabies tomorrow as I'm in meetings and workshops the whole day.
Yes, it's going to be an epic. Let's just hope that there's no major controversy that gives anyone excuses after the game!
Now I have to decide whether I gamble on JJ or Serfontein in my testrugby Fantasy team!
Go Bokke!
sharkbok
Captain23,297 posts
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
02 Oct 2013, 20:38#4
Interesting to see that Franco Van Dermerve has leap frogged Pieter Steph Duitoit.
Given that PSD has just returned from injury, it may be a smart move. Let him win a starting spot for the year end tournament.
I would like to have seen PSD starting next to Etzebth, but perhaps it is wise player management to not have his starting test right after injury to the most built up rugby game since the World Cup final.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Oct 2013, 22:21#7
Ou Maaik, I had the same problem and I went with Liam Messam.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2013, 00:25#9
Pathetic selection of Franco v/d Merwe ahead of Steph du Toit on the bench. A cheap Bok test cap that
03 Oct 2013, 05:05#12
Wallabies: Israel Folau, Joe Tomane, Tevita Kuridrani, Christian Lealiifano, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Ben Mowen, Michael Hooper, Scott Fardy, James Horwill (c), Rob Simmons, Ben Alexander, Stephen Moore, James Slipper.
Replacements: Saia Faingaa, Benn Robinson, Sekope Kepu, Sitaleki Timani, Ben McCalman, Nic White, Matt Toomua, Bernard Foley.
Foley's inclusion long overdue - playmaker like LeRoux. McKenzie also needs to get Godwin from the Force some game time on EOYT.
McKenzie has really shown a lack of leadership and direction imo - the Aussie "game plan" changes from game to game and sometimes even at the half. Started off his tenure with "running the ball from everywhere" and "playing the Aussie way" and got slaughtered by AB's in first two Test's. Then proclaims they need a more balanced approach against the Boks and still gets demolished so switches out halfbacks for White because he's a better kicker and they need to play the territory game. Eke's out a win against the Argies at home but they are confident they have found the right approach with Horwill saying before the second Bok test that they need to get out of their half first and then play attacking, ball in hand "Aussie" rugby. First half goes miserably with White at scrummie so at halftime McKenzie puts Genia in so they can get back to running rugby. As much yapping and campaigning as he did during Deans' tenure I think he's getting what he deserves and his successful Reds tenure is looking more and more like he just walked into the right situation.
Say what you will about Deans, but at least there was consistency, you knew what you were going to get and the players were all the same page. To think that Deans was just one pair of appropriately studded Kurtley Beale boots from winning the Lions series. His team would surely have acquitted themselves better in the RC.
03 Oct 2013, 08:13#15
I agree Genia is the better player. I wasnt comparing the two players though. My point was only to show McKenzie's fickleness when it comes to game plan. He's all over the map. Personnel may change but the game plan at its core should not. It should be tweaked for the opposition from week to week but with McKenzie it feels like its back to the drawing board at every turn. That's no way to build confidence in a team environment and it is clearly showing in their performance.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Oct 2013, 09:31#17
Rooinek: thanks for posting the teams mate!
Looks like our old buddy Sassue San is momentarily distracted from rugger, lol
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Oct 2013, 10:20#19
Mike: yes poor priority setting on the part of Sasuke San
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
03 Oct 2013, 22:57#20
Wallabys rugby is in a hell of a poor state, look at Oconner for a start, what a joke. Mckenzie was all full of puff and smoke but when it came down to the action it's gone pear shaped. Lost 5 tests not a good start then scrapping past the Puma for one point. I really hope the Argys get a win, they deserve one. Wallabies keep swap and changing positions in there backline to try and find a winning combo. They persist with the idiot Cooper, and Genia is in a real slump. There captain Horwill is a big baby, can't direct or inspire a team when he's taking a back seat. There forwards are soft mellow puffs. Hope Argentina hammer them by four tries.
