1 Victor Matfield
2 Bryan Habana
3 Joost van der Westhuizen
4 The Beast
5 Schalk Burger
6 Jean de Villiers
7 Duane Vermeulen
8 Fourie du Preez
9 Andre Venter
10 Handre Pollard
Captain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2019, 19:35
#1
08 Nov 2019, 19:35#1
Ten greatest Boks since readmission....ranked
Started by Mozart22 REPLIES1,183 VIEWS· 08 Nov 2019, 19:35
Pro6,974 posts
08 Nov 2019, 19:46
#2
08 Nov 2019, 19:46#2
I'd have Jaque Fourie in there. Saved a number of tests. Always made a telling contribution somewhere. This is a very difficult list to make. Juan Smith and John Smit are other possibilities. Some might have Os, Skinstad, Pienaar, Honiball, Percy et al.
I'd change Pollard for Butch, who in my opinion is our most talented 10 that I have seen and Andre for Fourie. The rest I'd keep.
Pro2,471 posts
08 Nov 2019, 20:25
#3
08 Nov 2019, 20:25#3
Duane should have got the POTY when Retallick won it, no one can change my mind.
Wait until Pollard has finished his career to include him, the other major disagreement is the placement of Beast and Fourie, I'd swap them. The rest are minor changes but quite a fair list.
Wait until Pollard has finished his career to include him, the other major disagreement is the placement of Beast and Fourie, I'd swap them. The rest are minor changes but quite a fair list.
Captain18,117 posts
08 Nov 2019, 20:30
#4
08 Nov 2019, 20:30#4
Each to his own. My top 3 . . .
1. Henry Honiball
2. Andre Venter
3. Andre Joubert
I will admit to having a bias for that 1998 Springbok team.
Captain18,117 posts
08 Nov 2019, 20:30
#5
08 Nov 2019, 20:30#5
Joost at 4 and Os at 5.
Coach57,555 posts
08 Nov 2019, 20:33
#6
08 Nov 2019, 20:33#6
I would not put Victor Matfield on top of that list since he damaged his reputation badly by playing past his sell-by date. Much lower on the list because if that. For what it is worth I agree with most of the others - more like no 10 on the list or even out of the top 10 . One should rather have a 15 man squad not allowing for duplication of eg the scrummie position.
sharkbok
Captain23,246 posts
Captain23,246 posts
08 Nov 2019, 20:43
#7
08 Nov 2019, 20:43#7
Bob Skinstad was good for a while, but after his car knee injury he was not as good. Certainly a game breaker that could turn a match on its head.
Captain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2019, 21:27
#8
08 Nov 2019, 21:27#8
I thought about the Rolls Royce, he would probably have been next on my list.
Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2019, 21:33
#9
08 Nov 2019, 21:33#9
Geez so hard to leave some players out
Certainties for me are
Joost
Os
Habana
Pro1,924 posts
08 Nov 2019, 21:47
#10
08 Nov 2019, 21:47#10
Really hard choices here chaps.
Pieter Rossouw and Andre Joubert would definately be up there and Stefan Terblanche was always my favourite Shark.
Pro3,183 posts
08 Nov 2019, 22:19
#11
08 Nov 2019, 22:19#11
1. Andrews
2. Habana
3. Joost
4. Os
5. J Smith
6. Venter
7. James/Honiball
8. Joubert
9. S Burger.
10. Terblanche/Skinstad.
Flashdakota
Club Pro803 posts
Club Pro803 posts
08 Nov 2019, 22:32
#12
08 Nov 2019, 22:32#12
Andrews?
Terblanche?
James?
Come on. Are you a sharks supporter by any chance AJ?
Here is my top 10
1. Schalla
2. Habana
3. Os
4. Joubert
5. Fourie du Preez
6. Duanne
7. Pollard
8. Beast
9. Venter - fuck he was a machine.
10. Joost
Reserves for top 10:
1. Venter
2. Andrews
3. Matfield
4. Honiball
5. Theo van Rensburg
Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2019, 22:45
#13
08 Nov 2019, 22:45#13
Theo v Rensburg???
Flashdakota
Club Pro803 posts
Club Pro803 posts
08 Nov 2019, 22:48
#14
08 Nov 2019, 22:48#14
I needed to see who reacted first.
Well done Saf.
Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2019, 22:54
#15
08 Nov 2019, 22:54#15
I’m not including current players except ones at end of their careers:
Best fullbacks:
Joubert and Willie
Best wings:
Habana, JP, Chester, Small, Hendricks, Olivier, Rossouw, Terblanche
Best centres:
Mulder, Frans Steyn, Joubert, Jean, Pieter Muller, Snyman, Fourie, Fleck
Best flyhalves:
Honnibal , James, Hennie le Roux, Stransky
Best scrumhalves:
Joost, Fourie du Preez
Best props:
Os, CJ, Beast, Jannie, Ollie
Best hookers:
Bismark, Smit, Dalton
Best locks:
Andrews, Matfield, Bakkies, Otto
Best flanks:
Andre Venter, Kruger, Schalk, Smith, Pienaar, Rassie, Krige
Best 8’s:
Skinstad, Vermeulen, Joe v Niekerk, Strauss
Pro3,183 posts
08 Nov 2019, 23:08
#16
08 Nov 2019, 23:08#16
Dave what about Puke, Elton and Jacobs.
Monty is the only addition I would suggest.
But you have some surprise names one being F Steyn (never thought that he would be considered).
But otherwise pretty good selection.
Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2019, 23:11
#17
08 Nov 2019, 23:11#17
Frans Steyn was great in his prime
Pro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2019, 01:04
#18
09 Nov 2019, 01:04#18
Saffex, I do not often agree with your lists. Sometimes maybe hardly at all but in the main I mostly agree with this one bar a few here and there.
At FB, I would swap Willie for Percy mainly because of Willie’s inconsistency and Percy’s versatility.
At centre I would drop Mulder and Fleck for Hennie le Roux and Jacque Fourie.
Props would have to loose Ollie and maybe CJ as well and I would want Balie in the mix.
I was not a big fan of Rassie as a player mainly because he also used to be hanging around in the back line a bit too much. Especially at a time when the loosies were a bit more confined among the rest of the forwards. I was also no big fan of Francois Pienaar. Maybe it was a bit of bias. I don’t know. I just didn’t like him. Still don’t.
Pro3,183 posts
10 Nov 2019, 19:14
#19
10 Nov 2019, 19:14#19
Flash at least you got some of the selection correct.
Honiball, Andrews and Venter.
Four ex Sharks and you complain about my selection then you select three ex Sharks in your reserve selection plus the Beast.
Just goes to show that you also support the Sharks.....welcome aboard.
Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2019, 23:29
#20
10 Nov 2019, 23:29#20
Vlag, I have Fourie at centre
I preferred Hennie at 10 than centre
I was not a huge fan of Balie he was a bit weak in the scrums
I much prefer Willie to Percy. I think my impression of Percy is clouded by his later years where all he was really good for was kicking for poles. He was a good player.
I like ball playing loosies - hence Rassie and Skinstad
Pro1,526 posts
10 Nov 2019, 23:51
#21
10 Nov 2019, 23:51#21
My 10 players:
Joost ... by a country mile... our best player since readmission.
Andre Joubert
Andre Venter
Os du Randt
Schalk Burger
Juan Smith
Honiball
Brian Habana
Duane Vermeulen
Bismark
Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2019, 13:57
#22
11 Nov 2019, 13:57#22
Agreed Blikkies
Joost by a country mile
My Pom mate, a huge rugby fan who stopped playing aged 60 odd always maintains that Joost is his favourite player of all time
He does hate to admit it!!
Pro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2019, 14:57
#23
11 Nov 2019, 14:57#23
Joist is the Brett Favre of rugby. Not tu e most technically accomplished player but has a knack for making it work. He is my second choice at #9. I have an official SA Rugby magazine for the 1999 World Cup, in it several coaches and players speak about Joost. I can't recall who said it, but one said they'd take a 60% fit Joost over anyone else, because even then he'll make things happen. I'll try to have that magazine scanned sometime.
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