Ten worst Boks since readmission....ranked

Criteria: Has to have played 5 or more tests.

1. Danie van Schalkwyk

2. Theo van Rensburg

3. Jorrie Muller

4. Russell Bennett

5. Ethienne Fynn

6. Earl Rose - though im not sure how many caps he won. He just needs to make this list.

7. Kwagga Smith

8. Albert van den Berg

9. Braam van Straaten

10. Oupa Mahoje

...this l ist could be replaced by another 2 or 3... with equally bad results.

Braam was way not on  the worst list.....his try against the Poms was well taken and he hardly ever missed a kick.

In no particular order:

1 Deon Greyling .

2 Luke Watson

3 Jorrie Muller

4 Flexing Faan Rautenbach

5 Selborne Boome

6 Dewald Potgieter

7 Bandise Maku

8 JJ Englebrect

9 Jaco Taute.

10 Corne Krige

DEON GREYLING! YES

Moz, re Braam... his kicking was good. but my fuck he was useless, even worse than Morne when it came to running the backline.

Dewald Potgieter wasnt too bad.

Braam had the physical ability but was completely devoid of any thinking ability other than tackling and kicking for poles.

The worst Bok combination ever was Louis Koen and Braam Van Straaten in the 10-12 access for the Boks. Stupid Braam kept running into Louis Koen in the flyhalf position instead of going to inside centre. There were 2 players competing for the same spot on the field. Absolutely pathetic.

Jorrie Muller was another that had all the physicalities required of a modern-day centre but was an empty vessel. A 5-year-old would be better than him in strategy or even rock, paper and scissors, making a paper aeroplane etc, etc.

Krige and Watson were big disappointments at test level as players. But they are on the list because they dishonored the jersey....unlike our current Boks, who have behaved magnificently.

JJ and Taute weren't great, but they are mostly there to pull your leg Dave .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDx7_q8gu4

Check out the Braam try against England before you condemn him for all time....reminded me of Allende but better. It's the first up.

This is my list:-

1 Morne Steyn

2  Marvin Ori

3  Willem Alberts (as a loosie)

4  R Mulder

5  Andre Esterhuizen

6  Victor Matfield (as a center)

7   Greyling

8   Werner Kruger

Looking at the Braam try, it was one in a million. He took the most predictable option. The English backs did not think he would be that stupid, and assumed he would pass. He basically jogged in running a straight line. 99/100 that would not work, and a routine tackle would have taken him down. 

Ten Worst Boks

For the worst Boks, I am sticking to players I have verified through film review. Some of the older tests have players I suspect may candidates, but I'll omit them. I'll be basing my decisions on players with little production, with significant weight given to those with a history of contributing to losses.

1. Raymond Rhule: He simply could not defend, at all. He missed a staggering 28 tackles in six tests, which included an unforgivable 9 against New Zealand - those which were deemed successful too often lacked quality. For those who say the stats are not enough, trust me, the film review is worse than the stats sheet. 
2. Deon Kayser: Simply anonymous. I have very few clear recollections of his provincial rugby, but I reviewed the 1999 season. He was well out of his depth throughout. 
3. Wayne Julies: It began in 1999 against Spain, overwhelmed, it ended in like manner against Tonga in 2007. Was another well out of his depth at test level. 
4. Brian Mujati: A penalty machine throughout 2008. Such a shame, as Beast was excellent upon debut. Compounded a rather difficult season for the Boks. Very low production outside of the scrum.
5. Juandré Kruger: Very poor hands in both the lineout and restarts. Very low production. Continually put the Boks on the backfoot. One of the chief culprits for problems up front in those early tests of 2012. Lacked any physical presence.
6. Marcel Coetzee: Simply out-gunned from start to finish. Much was made of his impressive defence stats in 2012's super rugby, but this never materialised on debut. With a glut of injuries at flank, he was called on again in 2014 to fill the void, a perfect opportunity to have a run of games to cement his status. He failed. He failed again in 2015 against Los Pumas. Not strong or robust enough for the backrow. 
7. Damian De Allende: I have covered few players as extensively as I have Damian. I played 12, am very fussy about the position. At no point has he demonstrated an aptitude for the position, costing the Boks several games and stunting the team both on defence and attack. His redeeming quality has been his work at the breakdown, not counter-rucking, but securing opportunistic steals. Was the worst defender in 2015's super rugby season with the most missed tackles. Considering his reputation, he not only becomes a candidate for worst 10, but one of the most overrated players in rugby history. Has had very tangible, negative influences in every game. Lacks fundamentals, sense of space or pressure, poor distribution, poor running lines and can't sum up situations. Coach Belichick talks about situational football, he emphasises it, and Damian fails situational rugby. 
8. Patrick Lambie: Were we discussing Lambie the fullback, he'd not be on this list. Lambie the fullback was a very viable option and my call for the semi-final against die Schwarzewelle in 2015. Lambie the fly-half was simply putrid. Very weak, timid defence in every single test I have reviewed. The numbers aren't spectacular, but watching the film makes it so much worse. Numbers don't capture just how poor he was. Hospital passes, missed tackles, dragged back by metres, run over, weak floaty passes, crabbing, pop-gun boot, poor depth and alignment, slow play which allowed the defensive line to advance upon our backs easily... he consistently robbed the Boks of any attacking impetus. Another with a very impressive reputation he could never live up to. 
9. Corne Krige: Very popular amongst some supporters. I found him massively overrated at the time of Straeuli. Not only was he not talented enough to be a Bok, his extraordinarily poor leadership tarnished the Bok brand in a way no man had done before. It took many years to win back respect and the favour of referees. He ended his test career in a rather limp showing against New Zealand in the 2003 quarter-final, which essentially summed up his captaincy and ability. Who could forget that famous quote: "Kill you in Perth". It was Krige who was killed, never to don the green and gold again. 
10. Adi Jacobs: An exceedingly poor defender who almost cost us the opening British Lions test. There was no redeeming quality to his game. Slow off the mark, slow in general and with an awkward throwing motion which squeezed a weak pass out like a bar of soap. He tried, he always put his body on the line, but was simply not good enough. The stats don't quite capture how bad he truly was. 

AO

There never was a more worthless flyhalf than Morne from any possible angle.  He was a good kicker of balls at goal - his strategic out-of-hand kicking was atrocious, his defense virtually absent and attacking play non-existent.  Patrick Lambie was a genius compared t him at flyhalf play.   

Your hatred and obsession with De Allende is a serious joke.  

Morné was an excellent defender, had the best distribution of any Bok 10 in the last decade, could read the game very well and controlled it. Elton is inferior, Lambie is inferior, Boshoff is inferior, Willemse is inferior, and even Pollard is inferior in many respects. His worst game literally saw more positives than Lambie's best. If only we had a distributor like him now. Seemingly none of our halfbacks possess the long dart. 

Don't have enough time to give all the players who fall under this section but I will give my top 10.

1. Earl Rose

2. Puke Watson

3. Jacobs

4. Elton Jantjies

5. Mujati

6. Rhule

7. van Straaten

8. Julies

9. Krige

10. Mahoje

AJH

A bit harsh on Elton there.

He hasnt been amongst the worst.

Certainly aint a star, but i dont think anywhere near the worst.

Can someone please tell me who  is R Mulder and Andre Coetzee? I see those names up above.

15. Jaco Taute

14. Dean Hall

13. Jorrie Muller

12. Earl Rose

11. Henno Mentz

10. Braam Van Straaten (Captain)

9. Dave von Hoeselin

8. Quota Mohoje

7. Hilton Lobberts

6. Dewald Potgieter

5. Geo Cronje

4. Quinton Davids

3. Werner Kruger

2. Dale Sandton

1 Dean Greyling

Coach - Alister Coetzee

PR Manager- Pdivvy

Selector - Andre Makraaf

Travel & Accommodations Manager - Roedolf Straulie

' Looking at the Braam try, it was one in a million. He took the most predictable option. The English backs did not think he would be that stupid, and assumed he would pass. He basically jogged in running a straight line. 99/100 that would not work, and a routine tackle would have taken him down'

.....

Kinda like the Allende try vs Wales. These tries are remarkably similar....confusion about the possible pass.....and late efforts to prevent crossing the line. Except Braam's was better.

Saffy, you are hardly one to talk. You are the rugby equivalent of Death Note. The killer of careers! 

@Moz: Yes they are remarkably similar. Another was the Lambie try against Australia. I have to agree, Braam's was better. 

Some interesting choices above. When reviewing film, I can find positives to Elton, Mohoje and Taute. Elton has had his moments, but falls into the Pretorius category, a poor man's Pretorius. Mohoje bested McCaw in our last home win against them, also proved to be one of the top three defenders under Coetzee. Nothing exceptional, but serviceable. Taute ran fantastic lines in 2012, all of which Goosen missed! Running into the blindspot of Nonu for a certain try, Goosen threw a hospital pass. Coming in off the shoulder for another deadly run, Goosen throws a hospital pass to Kirchner. Then when Goosen does see Taute, it's in the face of a deep three man rush, and Taute was smashed hard. Was guilty of a few feeble tackles, but was hardly the worst defender. In many respects a scapegoat for the likes of Goosen. In light of JJ and Kriel, I feel sorry for Taute. It's funny how some players never get called out, yet some nailed. Three flawed players, yet I find more redeeming qualities than those I listed. 

Upon review, I'd actually drop Marcel for Notshe. The hype leaves me inclined to elevate Marcel, but Notshe was much worse now that I think about it. 

"Mohoje bested McCaw in our last home win against them,"

LMAO  - LMAO  - LMAO  -  LMAO  - LMAO

And the village idiot denied that when he was accused of total idiocy in the past.

Add to that his above comments on the disastrous Morne Steyn and we have total delusion present also and not playing fetch stick with honesty.. Morne still a be tter flyhalf than Carter as you claimed before?

PDivvy said Earl Rose could become, 'the Tiger Woods of rugby'.

I might be wrong but I don't think he achieved a test cap, played midweek against provincial teams only .

"And the village idiot denied that when he was accused of total idiocy in the past."

I didn't deny saying that, I denied saying that he was the better player. That's quite a difference. It's your lies that lead into trouble Lügnerin.

Now, I can can quote you on the nonsense you write. That you have to bend the truth to trying and weasel your way out of trouble says a lot about you. 

@Blobbok: There was the Stormers fullback Newman in 2009. Said he was born in form, all ready for thr British Lions. Then came Namibia and we nearly lost. Newman wasn't in such great form that day. Peter was a good laugh, one I'd have found amusing were he coaching someone else. 

Who remembers Ishmael Dolli? Peter had hopes of him becoming a Bok. The Aussies had heard so much praise about him, and the Brumbies took a chance and nabbed him. It was discovered that he didn't possess the skills and was embarrassingly discarded. 

No - not the better player only dimwit.    You claimed that he was better than McCaw and as per normal lied as well - Mohoje was i n NO tests better than McCaw ever,  However - the idiot will always try to spin him out of the BS he constantly lands himself in.

Now where is the final statemen about Morne Steyn being a better player than Carter?  That ill also pop out in a moment of unguarded idiocy.   He denied the Folau attack after it was repeated in site when in his stupidity he referred to it under his new user name and blew his cover wide open    Now he was stupid enough to bring up the Mohoje idiocy 

Only the Dan Carter story is not in the open yet - so wait a bit longer - he is bound to let that idiotic streak out too,   

"No - not the better player only dimwit."

Really, I made the comment in July 2018. Go fetch. 

"Now where is the final statemen about Morne Steyn being a better player than Carter? "

Where indeed. I never did compare these two players. As Pakie pointed out, you were confusing a discussion you had with him. In the end, the very thread was resurrected by Pakie and we all had a laugh at your expense. Best spend your time keeping track of your marbles Muck. 

Wonder where Rooinek is - he unearthed the Mohoje and Morne Steyn idiocies and brought them into the open.  The Folau I happened to remember and when the idiot repeated it - I blew hios cover of a new user name and I wrote about it.   Now th bugger did what he previously wrote about Mohoje being better than McCaw,   

Difficult to live a life of duplicity and total rugby ignorance on site.  Anybody coming out with he following is a total site disaster because he lied in the statement as well:-

 "Morné was an excellent defender, had the best distribution of any Bok 10 in the last decade, could read the game very well and controlled it,".  LMAO - Morne had none of the qualities the idiot described and everybody bar him knows it.   LMAO       .  

Go fetch. I want you to unearth those posts. One by me and the other by Pakie. Rump went quiet after he couldn't find a quote, perhaps over eagerness took hold of him at the mere flickering of your tongues. Your claims have been made go find them. 

Two idiot claims by you  has been proven - only waiting for the third confirmation.  However, since you came on board you really were idiotic par excellence.  What have you said about a number of SA players where you went totally gaga?  LMAO

Two claims confirmed? 

I've left the poor Muck punch drunk. 

Yep I agree....Dean Hall was a powerful runner.

Rooinek

Can you remember the famous AO claim that Morne was a better flyhalf than Dan Carter?  

Oh dear, poor Dreck desperately backed into a corner. What was that? The original discussion on Folau didn't reap the rewards you had hoped? What a surprise!

What next? Carter? Pakie himself resurrected the thread where HE spoke about Morné in relation to Carter. Your marbles are amiss and you made a goof. How could I rate Morné the best 10 of all time if he isn't even my #1 Bok 10? Such logic from the clown who TWICE claimed Esterhuizen lost the test we won is Brisbane, South Africa.

I dare you Lügnerin to resurrect these supposed quotes. Go fetch. I already debunked the Folau lie. Pakie debunked the Carter lie. Now, your very last strike. You up for it? 

What next for the dynamic duo? Join us next week for another calamitous episode of Pip 'N Squeal. 

PS: Who was it that was going to be a 100 cap Bok captain? Notshe? Here's the unfortunate truth, I have that thread right now, I can quote your very words! 

Rooinek

I remember the same as you do.  So AO is squirming like a rat being exposed.   The man is a nutcase,

Two down, one to go. Go fish. Put up or shut up. One last strike and you are out! The two bafoons clasping at each other. Thelma and Louise.