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Test rugby's global comp

Started by Brycy15 REPLIES900 VIEWS· 30 Sept 2018, 23:43
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
30 Sept 2018, 23:43
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30 Sept 2018, 23:43#1


2020 is looking good for the introduction of a new 12 team inter - hemisphere comp...


 ...Six teams from each hemisphere England. France . Ireland , Italy , Scotland and Wales.

and SA , Oz , Arg, NZ, plus most likely Japan and Fiji...


There would also be a second division , with promotion and relegatiom between the top flight


The second division would include countries like Georgia, Romania , Spain, USA , Russia , Tonga and Samoa

 with China and Germany contending because of the attraction of their powerhous economies..


The tournament would be held for three years between RWC's


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/107496411/rugby-set-to-adopt-global-12team-test-championship-with-plans-for-a-second-division

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Oct 2018, 01:57
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01 Oct 2018, 01:57#2

I read about this. To be hosted in a singular country at a time. How would this affect revenue? What plans are in place? It sounds like a good idea, but lots of problems implementing it. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
01 Oct 2018, 05:39
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01 Oct 2018, 05:39#3

Watch the NH try to make SH matches some sort of pool game while they take most of the money for themselves.

How do lower ranked teams improve their ranking without playing higher ranked teams?

Dont trust anything initiated by the NH arseholes ,they are all about weakening SH teams because thats the only way they can compete on a regular basis.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
01 Oct 2018, 07:01
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01 Oct 2018, 07:01#4


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2018, 07:25
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01 Oct 2018, 07:25#5

Brycy

There are in fact two issues that would have to be included in any deal.   The one issue is agreement with the SH nations on any deal and that may jeopardize any NH dreams of coining in on the deal.

The second issue relates to TV rights.   In all the NH countries rugby is NOT the top sport in those countries.     The TV rights in those countries in the main center on soccer and the TV base would not produce the goods for them in comparison with what it produce in SA and NZ.   

What I am driving at would be the TV rights on gam broadcasting - the most major income for rugby authorities and the life-blood of competitions.    There is no way that the SH countries would sell off their financial lifeblood to NH countries.

An example is the recent admission of the Kings and the Cheetahs to the PRO14.   It cost SARU a fortune (R30 million) - which they have not been able to recover thus far,   I am afraid that may happen in this case if the SH nations do not get their real due in this case.   

 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Oct 2018, 08:10
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01 Oct 2018, 08:10#6

With the exception of New Zealand, rugby is not the top sport in the SH either. 

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
01 Oct 2018, 08:38
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01 Oct 2018, 08:38#7
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Oct 2018, 08:51
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01 Oct 2018, 08:51#8

What's the bet this becomes a socialist redistribution program?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Oct 2018, 10:19
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01 Oct 2018, 10:19#9
In principle a great idea. I just do not trust the real motives behind it. It could be sold as a way to “grow the game” and “improve the game in the lower tiers” and whatever luvvie dovey BS they want to spin and they will all make sense. The true objective, though, would be one of those secrets that everybody and their granny knows but don’t talk about. They want to grab the control of the money. Similar to the State Capture by the Guptas in SA.
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
01 Oct 2018, 12:44
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01 Oct 2018, 12:44#10

this is the idea of 2 very dangerous and brainless World Rugby top executives,... the argentinan Pichot and the aussie Brett Gosper,... they see themselves as businessmen and think that the only way to success is to grow and expand no matter what (seems to be the only thing taught in business schools),... someone should show them what happened with Super Rugby


these last weeks they have disclosed their 2 "brilliant" ideas to improve the sport of Rugby worlwide,.... one of them is this 12 teams' "World League" to be played each year (still to be known if in WC years it would be played),... and the other one is to expand the current World Cup to 24 teams

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/106988704/Rugby-World-Cup-could-increase-in-size-for-2023-tournament

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/107338875/World-Rugby-eyes-League-of-Nations-concept-to-shake-up-test-calendar

they think that test rugby is "under threat" because there are too many "friendlies" (the concept "friendly" itself is already wrong and seems at least strange coming from 2 former test players but if someone categorize the next Ireland-All Blacks or England-South Africa as friendly it means that he has no clue about rugby),... and add:

"If you ask me as a businessman, the business side of it is not working," said Pichot
"If you ask me as the playing side, it's not working. Is the international game under threat? I think it is. Look at the balance sheets of some nations and you can see exactly where we stand."


all reduced to the balance sheet,... BS,... well, if they succeed they are going to kill the World Cup and the Rugby World Cup is the most important window the sport has to the rest of the world,.... if I'm not wrong is the most watched sport spectacle after the Olympics and the Football World Cup (both running also each 4 years),...  they are going to jeopardize the most succesfull rugby event for some unknown results of a new competition

creating a very similar competition they are going to dilute the WC,... it's going to lose part of its atractive,... but creating a better competition to play each year they are going to kill the WC,... a competition with the best 12 each year is like playing an extended WC finals,... the only thing that the WC will have as diferential will be the national teams from the 12th to the 24th,... this means games like New Zealand-Portugal or Georgia-Spain,... games with no attractive at all and that no one want to watch

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
01 Oct 2018, 13:21
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01 Oct 2018, 13:21#11

Unfortunately an international global league in its current suggested form doesn't make sense.

Clubs are becoming more powerful that the international teams. France has already conceded that. Stad France has a budged of at least $30 mil a year to spend on players. All of the big 8 teams in France spend no less than $20 mil on players. 

No country can afford to pay that. 

The only real money generator is tours. The Lions tours always seem to bring their fans along in huge numbers. While on the subject, what will happy to the Lions. It is a huge tradition in rugby. 

I like the idea of a global season or some overlap at least to ensure that we get the most out of international rugby and that we always play the best team

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
01 Oct 2018, 19:46
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01 Oct 2018, 19:46#12

What's the bet this becomes a socialist redistribution program?


One hundred per cent, it is designed for that. Globalist scheme to leech NH wealth off to SH rugby.

With the wreckage known as SA rugby as the master blood sucker.

Instead of growing their rugby at home, in Africa, they are eyeing NH rugby wealth.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
01 Oct 2018, 19:57
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01 Oct 2018, 19:57#13
Beeno and Traditionalist sharing the same Marijuana pipe of wisdom about globalist conspiracies....
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
01 Oct 2018, 20:06
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01 Oct 2018, 20:06#14

No. That would mean characterizing SA as the globalist scheme it is.

And pinpoint that SA failed to build a localized rugby. In SA. And failed to expand the game in its direct environment: Africa.

SA people on this board are globalist. They feel closer to white people living thousand miles from them than they feel to their neighbours in SA.

Localist people look for local relationship.

Globalist people...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Oct 2018, 20:35
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01 Oct 2018, 20:35#15

Horse shyte Trad, you lot want to force everyone into one happy cesspool of mediocrity....well guess what? Some of us ain't playing that game anymore. Go watch your soccer.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
02 Oct 2018, 13:02
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02 Oct 2018, 13:02#16

Hopefully, those some will see the light and realize that SA rugby is the one bringing rugby in one happy cesspool of mediocrity.


SA rugby panhandling to NH rugbys to survive at the moment.

This will drag rugbys down.

Yep, for the preservation of rugby, terminate rugby in SA.

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