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That Delande Moment....

Started by sharkbok8 REPLIES678 VIEWS· 11 Nov 2018, 02:02
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
11 Nov 2018, 02:02
#1
11 Nov 2018, 02:02#1
It was around the 60-65th minute of the match, and the Boks had taken the upper hand. A bok try had just been disallowed, but the Boks were picking up more and more confidence and about to close the match off as any form of a contest, after the French had dominated the 1st half.
Enter Delande... It was a basic up and under catch without any pressure, but he folded and let it bounce. The French won possession, and for the first time in the half started to gain ground and suddenly the Boks lost momentum. It is critical moments like this that matches are won and lost....The Boks had the French by the jugular, but this simplistic play allowed them back into the game.
I am not sure what position on the field would be most suited to Delande because while he has lots of strengths, he also has lots of weaknesses that get exposed at international level.
Maybe a wing, but he would probably be poor under the high ball- as demonstrated today.Perhaps a blindside flank where he could crash ball and carry the ball up, and be less of a defensive liability.It does to some degree be part of the parcel with modern-day rugby, the inside centre is a brute due to the front on tackling requirements, and carry possession into traffic. Lots of brutes are in this position nowadays, it is just a question if one can be found that has basic skills, along with the physical requirements.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2018, 02:16
#2
11 Nov 2018, 02:16#2
Water boy would be my suggestion.
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 05:43
#3
11 Nov 2018, 05:43#3

Damian is too weak in the upper body to play in any forward position. He is strong in the legs though. Overall? Not tests quality. No matter how many close up shots the camera gives, he is not good enough. He is a wing-outside centre hybrid, lacking the attributes to really thrive anywhere. He is better in space. Not entirely constructive though. Too passive, uncompetitive and not a great reader of the game. He will in all likelihood receive another 40 caps. He has that kind of media backing. It makes all the difference. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
11 Nov 2018, 12:41
#4
11 Nov 2018, 12:41#4
He also probably stands too upright when taking contact, and gets stripped of the ball frequently. The Boks seriously need a quality all round inside center, and Carthuizen is not the answer either

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:33
#5
11 Nov 2018, 13:33#5

That's a good point. His body position and footwork is terrible. Against England, in June, he attempted to stop a crashball by leaning his left shoulder in, on his left foot, with his right leg up. Left leg bent. He was knocked backwards. Another tackle, a crashball again, he grabs the carriers waist, let's the momentum of the tackle pull him off his feet and swings round. Very bizarre. Another failed tackle. He has so many technical flaws in his game, he requires a lot of work. He doesn't seem hungry enough to want to improve. We can talk about coaching, but why can't the player be proactive? Why can't he clearly see his weak points? You can't meander through life expecting someone else to hold you hand and show you the way, especially in such a competitive environment. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:43
#6
11 Nov 2018, 13:43#6

He lacks voltage.

If he was at least smart, then many of his flaws could and would be sorted out by now.

Unfortunately it's taking him years to learn aspects of his position that he shouldn't really even be playing SR if he doesn't understand and execute already.

It's time to cut our losses and move on.

Let's also remember that Kriel has been playing outside this guy for years now.

Hopefully axing Lindie will see some kind of improvement from Kriel as well.

The difference when they made the switch to Jantjies, Pollard, Kriel has been night and day on every occasion now. It's looking like easily the best c ombination.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:49
#7
11 Nov 2018, 13:49#7
I never thought I'd say this but I like Jantjies coming off the bench , bring in Serfontein as he's an astute player and not unfamiliar with Pollard and Kriel. 
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:52
#8
11 Nov 2018, 13:52#8

Kriel is annoying. He has so many poor moments, then that one game where he looks to have finally clicked. Against New Zealand in Pretoria, he was phenomenal. If he could distribute more, he'd be a great 13. His defence is better than Damian's. Of the two he has the most potential, is significantly hungrier. Am on the otherhand has looked better. Even outside Damian. We should bring Serfontein into the team and drop Damian. André, Serfontein, Am and Kriel are usable.

I'm surprised Nel hasn't had a game yet. Maybe against Scotland. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2018, 15:44
#9
11 Nov 2018, 15:44#9
Scarcely credible that 5years later we are still discussing what he needs to do. This guy is in the best years of a centre's career. Can't change....won't change.
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