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The 10 big rugby questions

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jan 2014, 17:39
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06 Jan 2014, 17:39#1


By Brendon Nel of Supersport


With the emotion and drama of the 2013 season now a thing of the past, we have around six weeks until the 2014 southern-hemisphere season blasts us back into reality as the Vodacom Super Rugby awaits.

And while we may be missing the oval ball a bit after the Christmas feast, the summer holidays and festive cheer, the upcoming season promises to be nothing less than another dramatic instalment in the rugby calendar which will inspire some and disappoint others.

So, to whet your appetite, in the meantime, it is worth pondering how the following questions will be answered in SA rugby this year:


1. Will the Boks beat the All Blacks? (OF COURSE THEY WILL!)

Who knows what would have happened had Bismarck du Plessis not got his red card in Auckland, or the Boks not had to chase four tries at Ellis Park (Beeno  KNOWS - jut ask!). The bottom line is that New Zealand are still No 1 in the world and rightly so (Make that wrongly so given how many games they were outplayed!). But while they celebrate a magnificent 2013, they will know there is a lot of green and gold in their rear-view mirror(Actually the are looking straight ahead where the boks are disappearing out of sight - hahahahahahahaha). Heyneke Meyer’s side has shown magnificent improvement and momentum during the year and are developing well as a side.(PLEASE NOTE OU MAAAIKIE AND SNAPSTER!!!!!!)

Yes, they’re short of the All Black standard at the moment (IN WHAT RESPECT), but Meyer will not rest until they get that No 1 spot (Its our natural position so why would he?). Of course, the argument is that 2015 is when you peak and not 2014, but the way the Boks have been on an upward curve, wouldn’t it be wonderful for world rugby if they achieve their goal a year early? (You see oaks how the jopurnalists are catching up with Beeno's assessment? Its called thought leadership! Hakwa an appropriate picture indicating appropriate respect!)

2. What will become of the Southern Kings?

After all the backroom deals went south, and the promotion-relegation series saw the Lions get back into Super Rugby, there was at least some hope that the Kings would start to develop in the Currie Cup.

But self-interest and petty politics ruled the day at Saru so that at the start of 2014, we don’t know just where the Kings sit.

Saru have made it clear they want a spot in Super Rugby for the Kings when the competition is revamped after the 2015 season, and it is vital that they need to develop as a team. No Currie Cup spot means no sponsorship deals, no player influx and too much up in the air.

If the history of the region has shown us anything, it is that there is a hunger for rugby in the Eastern Cape, and that the Kings have been treated badly since day one.

Perhaps 2014 will be the year that rugby comes first, and provincial self-interest takes a back seat?

The queens were so pap they could not ACHIEVE WHATTHE PUMAS AND GRIQUAS HAVE - THEY USED THE RACE CARD TO GET INTO Super 15 and flopped).

Next time queens try getting there on merit.

3. How will the Lions fare on their return to Super Rugby?

There were a number of satisfied people in Johannesburg and surrounds when the Lions claimed their spot back in Super Rugby by ousting the Kings. But whatever the correctness of the decision in the first place, the Lions now have to prove themselves again in southern-hemisphere rugby.

Johan Ackermann has an enormous task in trying to get a young group of players ready for the toughest competition in the world. And while some may believe they only need to be competitive, surely the bar should be set higher than that?

South Africans can’t complain about the likes of the Rebels and Force not being competitive if the Lions perform as they have in the past and prop up the bottom of the table again.

A lot of eyes will be on Ellis Park this season, and the Lions need to take that step up.

One sense De Klek is doing a good job in trying to save the Lions after van rooyens disastrous quota reign. Ackerman too has done well. Nevertheless the Lions will do well to get into the top 10.

4. Will Jake finally give the Sharks the elusive title?

Cell C Sharks fans won’t want to be reminded how their team, despite always boasting a magnificent squad on paper, have failed to win the Super Rugby competition since its inception. The mid-season dip, and the habit of losing games they should be winning, seem to be part of every season in Durban, despite the Sharks having the largest, best-paid and strongest squad roster in the country.

Now John Smit’s elevation to CEO and Jake White’s arrival as director of coaching has seen a new lease of life that started with a Currie Cup victory late last year.

With White showing his coaching credentials by guiding the Brumbies to the finals in only his second year in charge, will he be able to rework that magic in Durban? We all know the Sharks have the players, and they have the depth to do some serious damage in Super Rugby, but can they overcome their own shortcomings to finally win it?

Or will White make one of his famous moves in the middle of the season if an international job offer comes along? (Cheap shot Brendon!!! Jake and the Sharks are going places)

5. Can the Cheetahs back up their 2013 showing?

The Toyota Cheetahs enjoyed a record-breaking 2013 and played some of the best rugby in the Super Rugby competition, grabbing their first appearance in the Super Rugby playoffs and coming close to a victory in Canberra, where they lost by two points to the Brumbies.

With Hawies Fourie taking over the reins in Kimberley with Griquas, the franchise will have a more centralised structure, but they were dealt a blow by Griquas’ demotion from the Currie Cup A-section last year, which will make it difficult to see their depth bolstered as it has been done in the past.

Hopefully the Cheetahs' defensive system will continue to grow as it did last year and under the impressive leadership of Adriaan Strauss it can only go from strength to strength.

Lets see the Cheetahs squad first.

6. Who will be the new SA Rugby boss?

2014 is an election year in more ways than one. Oregan Hoskins will be challenged for his position as president of Saru and although very few of the challengers have made themselves known as such, the talk in rugby circles is that both vice-presidents Mark Alexander and James Stoffberg, as well as Lions president Kevin de Klerk, are likely to stand.

Many things can happen between now and the election, though, and expect a lot of wheeling and dealing to take place behind the scenes.

Hoskins has seen off these types of fights before, and has given Saru a calm, collected face as opposed to some of his predecessors, but it still will be interesting times in SA Rugby as parties vie for their spots on the executive.

7. Can the Blitzbokke break the Kiwi dominance?

New Springbok Sevens coach Neil Powell has started off exceptionally well in the job, winning the Nelson Mandela Sevens in December, but can he break the All Black dominance in the HSBC World Series?

Powell has made it clear that the team needs consistency and so far they are off to a good start, making the semis in the Gold Coast and final in Dubai before their PE victory.

But we all know tough times lie ahead, and injuries, as well as some mediocre refereeing in the series is always a problem. Add to that the depth of the squad being tested as the season goes on and if they have to look outside the contracted group, the unavailability of provincial stars, and Powell has his work cut out for him.

Give Powqell some decent players and the Blitzbokke can rule sevens.Even with what he is getting the abs are currently our bunnies!

8. Where to now after the Bulls exodus?

The inability of the Bulls' management to stop the exodus of players during Super Rugby last season and their suicidal move to allow several more players to leave before their contracts were up (after offering them half their contractual value to re-sign) played havoc with their Currie Cup campaign and saw them miss out on the semifinals of the competition with a young squad whose imexperience was brutally exposed. The team will have a few Boks back, as well as Arno Botha, Pierre Spies and Deon Stegmann, but if they get a few injuries, depth is a problem.

A lot of the season – in which they have a fabulous draw – depends on them staying injury free, and having stars such as Spies, Francois Hougaard and new recruit Piet van Zyl step up to the plate.(Stars like spiesies and stegsies!)

Either way if things go wrong it could be a very long season indeed for the Bulls.

Bulle youngsters are rising fast and they could surprise. 


9. What will become of the overseas Boks?

Probably one of the most divisive arguments in rugby at the moment is whether Saru should continue to select Springboks who are based overseas. It makes life difficult for Heyneke Meyer, who would always want to pick his strongest available side.

But on the other side of the argument, the weakness of the Rand makes it tough to keep players in South Africa to start with, while if Boks are picked no matter where they play, then what incentive is there for younger players to stay in South Africa?

Saru CEO Jurie Roux indicated it was a once-off decision and it will be reviewed, but it is difficult to see how Saru are going to win this battle, especially when their own unions cannot even decide on the size of a Currie Cup competition.

Roux is relooking at Saru’s commercial model and this may hold the key to what direction the national union takes.

But it is difficult to see any decision being enforceable if the Boks want to win the World Cup in 2015, which would be made all the more difficult if they cannot pick their strongest available side because of geographical limitations.

The coach has to pick his best side - end of story!


10. What new refereeing and law problems will we see in 2014?

I feel for the refs, I really do. The majority of them do their best under immense pressure – not only from the public, but from their own bosses – and provide us with great entertainment. But unfortunately mistakes do happen, and some of them are clangers, as we saw in 2013.

The move away from relying on technology is a strange one, as the TMO is precisely there to make an unemotional decision based on facts. Yet ref bosses want refs to “own the decision” and look at big screens in the midst of baying crowds and make a decision. This, as well as some important trends in play (just when will they sort out the breakdown? How come we are seeing an increase in yellow cards?), tends to cause more controversy than it sorts out.

It seems when refs sort one problem out, teams figure out a way to exploit another. These problems will inevitably come, but let’s hope they don’t have as major an impact on games as they did in 2013.

Yes and lets hope they biase towards kiw sides ends. Meaning SA refs and Oz refs must stop favouring kiwis. Kiwi refs of course should never be allowed to ref any game of importance until a full coinfession and due repentanc  is  arrived at.


There they are, 10 questions that 2014 will undoubtedly answer. We may have missed a few, but those questions will directly determine the outcome of the season. If you have a few more, drop them down below, and motivate them.


How about central contracting for one and the elimiantion of quota selectons of whatever sort.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2014, 00:29
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07 Jan 2014, 00:29#2

Beeno


Question 1


Sure we can  beat the AB's  this year - and we will if we can get a few corrections in the squad.   We need  a better flyhalf, decide on a multi-functional no 13 and get a balanced back row.    Everything else is in place and only a few changes are necessary.


Question 2


Nothing - they are not good enough to get into the Premier division of the CC - so why the question?


Question 3


 The Lions will do better than they did in the past because they got rid of a lot of their under-performers.  The negative is they still have Jantjies - but they have other options - so we can expect them to do quite well.   There are some very good youngsters coming through.


Question 4     


Jake is a top coach and he would soon enough identify what went wrong last year. It would soon enough become clear which players will be caught out for non-performance and the passengers will be gone.  No more fat and unfit players will be allowed and I think that Francois Steyn and Sloth Alberts are two of those - they will have to get into shape or they will not be around for long - the hype will not help them.


Question 5


No problem - the Cheetahs have retained most of their players and they will have a top flyhalf in Goosen.   Losing Ebersohn is a problem but Beyers is a good replacement,    They may even be better this year than last year- since most of their younger players would improve with experience.


Question 6


No comments.


Question 7


If they keep on playing like they did in PE - the Blizbokke will end up on top.  Thus far they did much better than last year.


Question 8


The Bulls should shout hurrah - they got rid of the bad old blood and have some really good youngsters coming through.  Losing players like Kirchner, Morne Steyn and Kruger is really a blessing in disguise.    I think the changes will be for he good and the bad forecasts will be proven wrong.


Question 9


Let most of them stay overseas.   With rare exceptions they were poor and below par in 2013.   Morne and Steenkamp struggle to make their club starting line-ups - showing they were just not good enough.  Fourie is a slow carthorse with zero attacking abilities,  Kruger and Kirchner are not in contention anymore, Botha and Pienaar is past tense and badly so.   Although Du Preez is a poor reflection of what he was in the past, he would remain in contention - we have no better.   Louw,  Habana and JP will also remain in contention.


Question 10


No comments       


  

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Jan 2014, 01:16
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07 Jan 2014, 01:16#3
Beenkop, the only time we will ever challenge the AB's is when Meyer wakes up to who his best 23 are.
That 23 does not include Kirchner, Fourie, Jean, Morne, Pienaar, du Preez, Vermaak, Jannie, Flip, Bakkies, Louw, Alberts and Steenkamp
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
07 Jan 2014, 16:59
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07 Jan 2014, 16:59#4

1. Will the Boks beat the All Blacks?

yes.
All Blacks maybe appear to be a team of superhumans, but theyre still human, except McCaw who we know is a kryptonian.

the problem is, when the Boks finally get a win over the All Blacks, it will be exactly like the way it has always been since the two countries started to play regularly which is a one way street in the All Blacks favour with the Boks pulling one off every now and then.

if the All blacks play 100%, then no team in the world will beat them on that day, even if they play a 100% as well.
its unfortunate for the Boks and the wallabies that they are the two teams in the world that the All Blacks always bring their A game for, a state of mind which hasnt been extended to the NH cuzzies and something that hansen needs to rectify immediately.


2. What will become of the Southern Kings?

it all depends on how SARU want roll with them.
i find it laughable that SARU try to portray themselves as an organisation that wants the kings to succeed, they wanted the kings to fail from day one. forcing the woodenspooner of the SA conference to play ina relegation match despite it being the kings first year shows how little support the dudes actually.

too many things working against the kings for them to be even halfway decent in anyones lifetime here, but once 2016 rolls around, will make the bottom of the ladder more interesting as the kings and lions will no doubt go head to head for the wooden spoon.

3. How will the Lions fare on their return to Super Rugby?

dumbest question so far.
lions are the spXV 2014 woodenspooners.
SA have taken the super rugby wooden spoon 13 times in the last 18 years, will be 14 times from 19 years by the end of the 2014 spXV.

4. Will Jake finally give the Sharks the elusive title?

sharks will be the big improvers, great squad and a decent coach.

but lets face it, the chiefs have already won it, and by some miracle they dont, it will be because of the crusaders and not cos of anything the other spXV teams can do.

2014 final 6
1 chiefs, 2 sharks, 3 brumbies, 4 crusaders, 5 stormers, 6 bulls/reds/ blues


5. Can the Cheetahs back up their 2013 showing?

no they cant.

the way the current format is set up, some teams can get very beneficial draws.
during round robin play, the cheetahs managed to avoid playing the crusaders and the brumbies, both of who were top 4 teams, so it shouldnt be too much of a surprise  that the cheetahs made the finals for the first time.

they did do well in the finals against the brumbies though, but their 2014 fixture is a lot less forgiving and thats something theyre going to find out the hard way

6. Who will be the new SA Rugby boss?

dont know how much of a hand hoskins had in setting up the Boks minnow heavy 2013 fixtures, but that was a brilliant way to build up confidence.
SARU should do everything they can to keep him, cos that kind of forward thinking albeit very yellow, does wonders for the fans and players morale.
pity it does nothing when they face top of the rugby food chain All Blacks, but lets face it, Boks were never going to that anyway.

7. Can the Blitzbokke break the Kiwi dominance?

there have been 14 world series, and NZ have won 11, while the blitzboks have won only 1, to top it of, NZ are also the 7s RWC champions, a title that SA has never held.
even should the unthinkable happen and the blitzboks win the 2013/2014 world series, its going to take a lot more then another lonely title to break the dominance that NZ have.

8. Where to now after the Bulls exodus?

bulls look a little light in the flyhalf and fullback department, but the rest of their squad looks good.


9. What will become of the overseas Boks?

im totally against selecting players overseas, but given that meyer has proven himself as a failure when it comes to developing the young talent which is in mad abundance in SA, u have to expect SARU to meyers relief to continue picking the overseas players.

if i was lady elizabeth though, i would say screw the stormers and go make some $$$ overseas, we all know he will command top dollar, so making the cash now and playing for the Boks would be like having ur cake and eating it too.


10. What new refereeing and law problems will we see in 2014?
the scrums will continue to be a lottery like they always have been.

but until the season starts and we start getting some insights on what SANZAR expect from them, more or less the same.

IMO they should introduce more NH refs into the SH game and vice versa, getting players and refs familiar with the way one officates will have positive effects on the international scene.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2014, 20:22
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07 Jan 2014, 20:22#5

 Sasue


I read your praise song and am left bewildered. When will you realise that McCaw is way past hiss sell by date and he AB's need to change him to start with.  


About half of your responses have nothing to do with what will happen in  2014 - it is about past history.  


 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 Jan 2014, 21:11
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07 Jan 2014, 21:11#6
1. No.2. Nothing.3. Surprisingly well.They won't be in the bottom 4.4. No (although someone like John Plumtree or pretty much anyone else would have).5. No.6. No-one new. It will be Oregan Hoskins again.7. Who cares?8. Stupid question. What do you mean? The Bulls - like other franchises - will lose players to the NH comps.9. No idea but I hope they are not considered for Bok selection.10. I foresee two problems . . . SA supporters will continue to whine and bitch about some mythical refereeing conspiracy and secondly, more controversy than ever over reset scrums with this change to the scrum-feed law.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
08 Jan 2014, 11:46
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08 Jan 2014, 11:46#7
@mikey,

the writings on the wall brother mike, it would be in ur interest to not ignore the signs, the questions were all answered with 2014 in mind, :o)
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
08 Jan 2014, 11:47
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08 Jan 2014, 11:47#8
@rooy,

would like to read more on ur thoughts regarding ur answer to question 3 where u said would not lions not even be in the bottom 4, cos IMO thats a big call.

i looked at the lions wider training squad and saw a lot of names that im not familiar with, and a few spXV regulars like franco van der mewe, janties and mapoe, and not even the western force with all their glory hole aussies looked as bad.

during the round robbin the lions will not play the hurricanes or brumbies, dodging the brumbies was nice, but that still leaves the crusaders, chiefs, blues, waratahs plus the double up saffa matches including the bulls, stormers and sharks.

are there any particular newbies in the team we should keep an eye on??? cos from everything so far, my rough guesstimation is the lions will need a miracle to not bee the wooden spooners.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2014, 12:00
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08 Jan 2014, 12:00#9

 Sasue


Kist two names spring to mind insofar as the Lions are concerned - namely their no 13 Stokkies Hanekom and one of their other youngsters - a flank by the name of Greyling.   I rate Hanekom highly - he might be aiming for highe r honours. 

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
08 Jan 2014, 12:13
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08 Jan 2014, 12:13#10
@mikey,

thanks, i will keep an eye out on those two.

will hanekom push mapoe out to the wing??? or is he a youngster who will gradually be worked into the lions squad???
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
08 Jan 2014, 12:29
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08 Jan 2014, 12:29#11
 "The bottom line is that New Zealand are still No 1 in the world and rightly so" Brendan Nel please, it was the Team 



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2014, 13:04
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08 Jan 2014, 13:04#12

Sasue


Hanekom is top class 13 - he was injured - for the CC semis and did not play - but he will be their first choice 13.   He is to my mind also a candidate for the position in the Springbok team - nice player he has speed, an ey e for a gap and strong runner and defender.  


Mapoe is likely to feature on the wing.      

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Jan 2014, 08:53
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09 Jan 2014, 08:53#13

Sasuke, it's more a hunch than anything scientific. I was impressed with the Lions attitude last year and the way they handled the disappointment of missing out on the Super 15. They also played a very attractive brand of rugby which I hope they persist with this year. When they get that backline of theirs going they are a pleasure to watch.

 

If I had to single out one Lions player to look out for in 2014 it would be flanker Jaco Kriel.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
09 Jan 2014, 23:56
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09 Jan 2014, 23:56#14
@rooy,

fair enough, if ur prediction comes to fruition, i might get u to pick my lotto numbers that week, lolz, :oP

will also keep an eye out on that kriel, :o)
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