Backs: Willie, Habana, Mvovo, JJ, Serfontein, de Allende, Jean, Lambie, Jantjies, v/Zyl, Reinach
Forwards: Nkanyane, Beast, Jannie, Coenie, Marcel v/d Merwe, Strauss, Bismark, Etzebeth, de Jager, Willemse, Jacques du Plessis, Kolisi, Coetzee, Vermeulen, CJ Stander, Elstadt, Labascagne.
We have to move on from Steenkamp and Adriaanse.........Nkanyane has been good all year and I was very impressed with him at 3 for the Cheetahs on Sat, showing versatility in being able to play both sides of the scrum.
Of all our young props, Marcel v/d Merwe is our best prospect. He missed the S15 with an injury but has been back for two weeks.
de Allende has impressed with the few opportunities he has been given this year, he looks the part and we need to blood him. Far better option than de Jongh.
I am a Mvovo fan, he was good this year in the S15 and is far better than Basson.
Morne was crap 5 years ago, nothing has changed, we need to move on. Jantjies has rediscovered his spark with the Lions and I am a fan.......Lambie and Jantjies ahead of Morne anyday.
Pienaar has been crap, Reinach is a quality young 9
Am a massive fan of de Jager, he is a monster who gets stuck in. He starts in my Bok side ahead of the useless Kruger. Jacques du Plessis is our new Etzebeth and Labascagne is a quality loosie.....I have him ahead of Alberts anyday. Alberts lacks finesse and has been exposed for being a crashballer who adds nothing else.
We have to move on from Steenkamp and Adriaanse.........Nkanyane has been good all year and I was very impressed with him at 3 for the Cheetahs on Sat, showing versatility in being able to play both sides of the scrum.
Of all our young props, Marcel v/d Merwe is our best prospect. He missed the S15 with an injury but has been back for two weeks.
de Allende has impressed with the few opportunities he has been given this year, he looks the part and we need to blood him. Far better option than de Jongh.
I am a Mvovo fan, he was good this year in the S15 and is far better than Basson.
Morne was crap 5 years ago, nothing has changed, we need to move on. Jantjies has rediscovered his spark with the Lions and I am a fan.......Lambie and Jantjies ahead of Morne anyday.
Pienaar has been crap, Reinach is a quality young 9
Am a massive fan of de Jager, he is a monster who gets stuck in. He starts in my Bok side ahead of the useless Kruger. Jacques du Plessis is our new Etzebeth and Labascagne is a quality loosie.....I have him ahead of Alberts anyday. Alberts lacks finesse and has been exposed for being a crashballer who adds nothing else.
I'm curious OOm what position did you play?
Odd Maaik, you have opined on every other position, and I can't even recall your views on Bismarck vs Strauss.But thanks.
Jantjies has an awful season at the Stormers … get’s dropped to the bench at the Lions because of poor form … has to pray that someone’s injured so that he can start cause there’s no one else to select from ... and what does Stupid do ??? … he includes the incompetent arse in his Bok squad.
It’s hilarious.
He then adds chumps like Jacques Du Plessis, Kolissi, Willemse, Stander and De Allende to the mix ... AND honestly expects to be competitive down under.
A laugh a minute I tell ya!!!
What really cracks me up is this fool then comes aboard and wants to lecture us.
A moron second to none on this board.
I think that with all of the dodgy french boks playing their first club game while the boks have a week off, I would prefer it if we just took a young team over. Those that are a year or two of possible becoming bok regulars. As long as they can get a bonus point and run both Aus and NZ close, leaving the competition open for the home games. If we can get 2 bonus points on the road or even a win and then win all of our home games.
The team I would take in starting order
1. Beast / 23. Trevor
2. Bismark / 16. Strauss
3. Jannie / 17. Coenie
4. Estebeth / 18 Lood
5. Van Der Merwe / Elstadt
6. Coetzee / 19 Lappies
7. Kolisi
8. Vermeulen
9. Reinach / 20 Van Zyl
10. Lambie / 21 Jantjies
11. Mvovo
12. Serfontein / De Allende
13. De Villiers / 22 Ebersohm
14. JJ / Rhule
15. Le Roux / Ludik
We are a bit short on Fullbacks, but if F Steyn was fit and JP was still on the scene, I would not hesitate, but it was between Ludik and Aplon, I just think that Aplon is 31 and he got exposed badly against australia a few seasons back. We need to start developing Wings and Fullbacks as well as Scrumhalves.
Well, than kgod this is all hypothetical because we can not afford to take a whole bunch of newbies on a tour. A good "team" with cohesion is always going to beat a "side" full of good individuals and taking too many newbies at this stage will be as good as when we used to fly "A" teams out of SA to cotton wool our starters. Unfortunately, at this stage in the comp, we have to remain pretty much the same and hope to build on that.
SA management has no clue how to blood players and ease them in. If a guy is playing well, the country calls for him to be thrown in, eventually the coach can no longer ignore the calls, chucks him in and we all watch him drown ala Taute as 13 which had the hallmarks of being a cherry bomb but in fact was a pop pop! Look how well Luatua was introduced to All Blacks. You can guarantee that had Richie not been available to play, Victor Vito would have been called up to start in Messam's absence. Luatua has been with the squad for a while soaking it in, the time was right to throw him in with hugely experienced guys around him like Reid and McCaw and he is in a position now to challenge Messam for that 6 jersey and possibly actually knock him off his perch. Great player management. SA management is years behind that sort of play!
What I would do is change a few key positions. Changes in bold.
15 Lambie
14 Le Roux
13 Serfontein
12 De Villiers
11 Habana
10 Steyn
9 Van Zyl (Du Preez not available)
8 Vermuelen
7 Alberts / Louw (last 30 mins-Alberts to empty tank in 50 mins)
6 Fourie
5
4 Etzebeth
3 Du Plessis
2 Du Plessis
1 Mtwararira
On the bench. Take some knew guys:
16 Strauss
17 Marcel Vd Merwe
18 Oosthuizen
19 Willemse
20 Louw
21 Pienaar (In case it turns to shit with Van Zyl. Only reason)
22 Catrakilis (if fit by then) otherwise Zeilinga
23 Engelbrecht
I dont know who I would play at 5 but definately not Kruger. Way to soft for a Bok tight 5 spot. I want a hard man there. Is Bekker not available? Who is hard and savvy enough to call the Bok lineout?
Take a new flyhalf. We have enough in Lambie to cover Morne if we really need but a good 5 to 10 mins at the back end of a test match or just being in the environment want hurt a guy like Catrakilis or Zeilinga. Both have huge future's. Zeilinga has proven himself every level he has played at! He has what it takes I reckon.
Hey SmallCock ... what's all this "we" about??
Huh??
You're living in another man's country now, gov. It's to them you owe your loyalty.
We don't regard you as one of us. We don't want you ... ok??? You're just another coward who tucked his tail and ran away. So do "us" all a favour and cheer for your new country ... ok??
Do the right thing, dumbass!!!
Fattex, the only reason, surely, that you pick such shit teams is to stimulate debate , surely ?"?
Sadly ol Stupid doesn't realise that the it's essential that Boshoff starts, even at prop if need be, cause we need a reliable kicker.
Jantjies can't kick to save his life. The last time he tried he couldn't even reach the posts from 30m out. He dug his foot into the ground a few centimeters infront of the ball, taking out a large divot, which caused the ball to fall a good 7m short.
That cost us the Cheetahs match.
Talk about infuriating.
But hey ... let's send this boy down under to represent us agains the might of the All Blacks and the Wallabies. That's really intelligent, Stupid.
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaa!!!!
Stupid ,... hasn't is dawned on you yet that anything and everything you have to say on the subject of rugby is based on complete ignorance.
Nothing you have to say challenges anyone. It never has.
The only response it deserves is that of laughter. Side splitting laughter.
You got that now, wankstain??
You keep telling yourself that your worthless posts are contributing to this site. Ok??
Soooooooooo Stupid ... does that mean you've finally registered why Boshoff's been included??
Hmmmmmm?? Slow on the uptake hey dipshit!!!
You see, moron ... Jantjies can't cut the mustard at provincial level ... probably not even at club level ... so we have to have someone in the team to cover his quota selection. That's the problem with all these damn quotas ... someone has to take up the slack.
Jantjies is in merely to get the colour mix sorted. He's a bit of baggage we're forced to lug along. A gravy trainer.
You get it now ... dumbass???
Clean Cunt, would that be theJantjies that has been shit hot for the Lions in the past few weeks and was damn good again last night for them, the lad who has a few test caps behind him..........................unlike your pathetic call on Boshoff for the Boks........a player who did squat last night and wont ever smell a Bok cap.
How fucking stupid and ignorant do you have to be when it comes to rugby........to make an outrageous call n Boshoff for Bok flyhalf........how fuckng stupid are you?
I'll tell you how stupid you are, for not only do you completely cock up the flyhalf selection.......you go on to include Kockott at 9, Vomink on the wing and Mellett at loosehead..........how out of touch can a rugby follower be.......you havr to be the dumbest poster I have ever come accross.
You clearly know fuck all about rugby and its would be absolutely impossible to take anything you say relating to rugby seriously........but dont leave us, we need a dumb clown on this board.
Boshoff for Bok flyhalf.......bwhaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ha ha Clean Cunt, really hurts you that I live here hey..You pathetic old cunt. If you didnt fuck your life up when you had the chance, you too would be living abroad. We could all see the signs, your brain just couldn't buy you a ticket out. Judging by some of your comments on here, its not hard to see why. Thick is an understatement.
U think Rugby is the be all and end all in life? I must live in SA with the job situation and crime rates like they are so I can say "I am a true Bok supporter!" Why dont you give your kids the future they deserve or is your whole family as fucked in the head as you? When you sitting in your car with a gun to your head, I hope you are man enough to untuck that tail between your legs. Mind u, u could take a bullet to the head. No chance of hitting brain in there..
Coming back to your team...Why dont you play for the Boks? I mean, you are almost 60 years old but still built like Pierre Spies and can run a 10km in record time...You seem super human.
Now if you will excuse me old man, I am off to do some stand up comedy. I am inspired by you...I might open with a crowd favourite..Boshoff and Volmink to be Bok starters in Aus...Ha ha gets me everytime..
ps..I will be sure to tell all the SA supporters packed into Eden Park come 14th that "we" are not allowed to support the Boks because we dont live in SA. Haha you are a tosser hey. Just remember to give your kids the old talk on inbreeding hey. Dont want another Clean Cunt in this world.
Jantjies is all shit full of hot class and would make my starting XV against Australia and the All Blacks. Mark my words he is the future and needs to replace the useless Morne Steyn. Jan give me a hard on Serfontein should also be starting instead of the past it Jean.
Mike you are just a liar........no test match is ever played where a player is excluded - stop speaking complete shit its embarrassing and insulting to expect people to believe such shit.
Its also a fact that Jantjies has been good since returning to the Lions, certainly better than Boshoff who
Ag what kak, Jantjies has been damn good since his return to the Lions, hell even Stransky has been raving about him.
Boshoff wont get back into the side as a starter unless he is retained at 15 ahead of Andries Coetzee who is good enough to play test rugby.
As for cutting Jantjies out of a test, that is the biggest load of shit I have read in years.......its pathetic and exposes you as a complete liar
Saffex - You stupid cunt you know nothing about Rugby. What shit are you speaking now, you are an absolute liar. It is embarrasing and insulting to read your shit and it seems like you have no shame. Support England instead, you will fit right in there.
