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The ABs new killer weapon; NZ Herald

Started by Just_win9 REPLIES651 VIEWS· 25 Aug 2017, 19:35
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Aug 2017, 19:35
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25 Aug 2017, 19:35#1

Pace is the new black. It's pace that is going to redefine the way the All Blacks play and pace that they are hoping is going to be the weapon that takes them to a new level this year and beyond.

 

There have been plenty of players with pace in previous All Blacks teams. There has never been any shortage of finishers, men with the devastating acceleration and high end top speed to damage teams. Think here of the likes of Joe Rokocoko, Sitiveni Sivivatu and Rico Gear.

 

The All Blacks, certainly in the professional era, have always had someone or maybe even two players with enough speed to make the opposition nervous.

 

But what's different now is that they arguably have four at the moment who can destroy a defence with their speed. Damian McKenzie, Rieko Ioane, Ben Smith and Beauden Barrett are all genuinely quick.

 

McKenzie creates something of a false illusion when he plays. Defenders get suckered into thinking that he's not so much quick as agile.

 

They look at his feet and are aware that he can step and swerve and that in confined spaces, he can dance free. But his lack of size makes many think he's not actually all that fast on the open toad as it were.

 

He is and he showed that in Sydney when he was able to get in support of Ioane after Barrett had stripped Michael Hooper to create a turnover attack down the left wing.

 

McKenzie can therefore not only bamboozle defenders, he can get on the outside of them as well and he'd be about one of the quickest outside backs there has been in recent years.

 

Ioane is quicker. He has genuine pace and is the fastest in the squad and one of the faster All Blacks of the professional era.

 

He's shown this year just how quick he is. The first example came playing for the Blues against the British & Irish Lions when he put daylight on the defence when he had a half chance.

 

 

 

He did it again in the test when he latched on to a loose ball and then cruised past Elliot Daly without the need to even fend. And then there was the way he stood up Israel Folau in Sydney. That was special.

 

Few, maybe no other, wing in world rugby would have been able to do that. Ioane, from a standing start, was able to get outside Folau and score in the corner.

 

The youngster reckoned it was only because the Wallaby fullback was impeded by a divot in the ground but his kindness in saying that felt like it was driven by a desire to protect the reputation of a special player.

 

Ioane is super quick and that's largely why he's in the team. His pace creates options and that's why the All Blacks were looking to run from everywhere in Sydney.

 

They know that if they can use McKenzie and Ioane deep inside their own territory, they will pull a defence to breaking point. Smith and Barrett can then be used bringing the attack back the other way and it's all too much for the opposition to shut down.

 

That's why the Wallabies were torn to shreds in Sydney. They were simply unable to cope with the pace of the attacks and this sort of rugby is no doubt going to be developed by the All Blacks throughout this year and with a view to perfecting it at the next World Cup.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Aug 2017, 19:48
#2
25 Aug 2017, 19:48#2
 In fact only two of the backs have changed so it is a bit over the top to say the AB approach is now speed - McKenzie is not yet a regular fixture. Still for sure the ABs are refining and evolving their game and they will take advantage of the skill set players bring and integrate it into their system.
In the forwards Squire and Barrett offer more speed and when these players are on the field we will see more pace. Squire was running the outside lane instead of Read on a couple of occasions. Coles will be playing at hooker on Saturday and this will be even more speed.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Aug 2017, 20:34
#3
25 Aug 2017, 20:34#3
 
Another mess by the JW.


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Aug 2017, 20:42
#4
25 Aug 2017, 20:42#4
 Ha ha, I can always count on you cc.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2017, 21:56
#5
25 Aug 2017, 21:56#5
One really fast guy makes a huge difference. I think Ioane represents that. I'm not sure the others are unusually fast...perhaps Barrett measured against other flyhalves. Bryan Habana had unusual gas, so did Chavanga....pace that made the 90 metre strike a possibility. The Boks in particular benefited from having that kind of player because they have relied on the counter attack.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2017, 07:31
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26 Aug 2017, 07:31#6
There are a number of very important requirements fro, successful backline players.   Pace is just one - thinking ability and decision-making is another even more important component, the other being ball sense and skills.  
There are two exceptional players here (Ioane and McKenzie) with different abilities -
*   Ioane has more pace and physicality; while*   McKenzie has pace and avery advanced level of ball sense and skills.
The combination is a huge asset for the SB's.   
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Aug 2017, 09:52
#7
26 Aug 2017, 09:52#7
 
Ask yourself ... what did Lomu have?

He had a bit of pace ... an average step ... and most importantly ... raw power.

He coudn't catch for sh!t ... was terrible under the high ball ... fell apart when the ball was put behind him forcing his retreat ... no kicking game to speak of ... I don't think he even knew how to pass the ball ... and yet ... he was the perfect try scoring machine. Everyone feared him.

Did he have a rugby brain? He always came across to me as being rather thick ... and yet ... !!

My conclusion based on that is ... pick a big mother that cannot be stopped, no even with 3 guys on his back ... like Savea and Naholo.

Nothing else is needed.

Our closest to that is Combrinck ... and he's some distance away ... b ut a much better option than Rhule or any one else in the country.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2017, 10:59
#8
26 Aug 2017, 10:59#8
 Combrinck should be in the backline. M adness to exclude him. Best center is janse van Rensburg and he is not there!
Then we have Bongi and Dreyer - who cant scrum. We have lightweight lock Mostert and are playing three loosies at 100 kgs. We leave out Faf by far our best scrummie and play a pretty pedestrian Ross Conje.  We leave out Willie Le Roux who would thrive in this new set up.In summary we are nowhere near full strength!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2017, 11:56
#9
26 Aug 2017, 11:56#9
 Willie is history Beeno. I was never convinced anyway, he went for the 50/50 balls and sometimes hurt his team.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2017, 11:58
#10
26 Aug 2017, 11:58#10
 JW Willie ripped the wee abs apart a number of times. Unfortunatel y he was the only guy who could attack. Under the new regime there are more players to watch. naturally the abs are very glad to see the back of Willie
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