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The All Blacks Drinking Antics- Should they even be allowed to tour?

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22 Sept 2014, 22:18
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22 Sept 2014, 22:18#1

Here’s a timeline of the most famous incidents when a boozed-up All Black has landed himself in hot water.


2013 – Former New Zealand scrum-half Byron Kelleher was arrested in France after allegedly driving his car on the wrong side of the road while being four times over the legal drink driving limit. Kelleher left Top 14 side Stade Francais in 2012.


2012 – Current first-choice scrum-half Aaron Smith was sanctioned by the team management for a late night “breach in management” following the 21-5 win over Argentina. Reported to have missed a curfew, Smith was dropped to the bench for the next game against South Africa.

Aaron Smith played against England in the summer2011 – Wing Cory Jane and full-back Israel Dagg were both punished during the 2011 Rugby World Cup for spending a night out on the town in their homeland. Jane would go on to play in the 33-10 quarter-final victory over Argentina while Dagg missed out through injury.

Cory Jane after the 2011 World Cup victory2011 – Wing Zac Guildford admitted he was an alcoholic after a drink-fuelled incident in Rarotonga. Guildford walked into a local bar intoxicated, naked and bleeding before assaulting two tourists. He would go on to apologise for his behaviour and agree to give up alcohol. The former All Black joined Clermont Auvergne, and was the victim of a street attack earlier this month.


2008 – Scrum-half Jimmy Cowan was ordered to stop drinking by the NZRU and fined $3,000 (£1,491) after he was repeatedly arrested for his behaviour while drunk.

Jimmy Cowan left Gloucester at the end of last season2007 – Former wing Doug Howlett didn’t respond to the All Blacks’ 2007 World Cup exit too well, as he jumped on two cars in London following the quarter-final defeat to France in Cardiff.



2007 – Second-row Ali Williams was sent home from the Auckland Blues’ tour of South Africa during the Super Rugby campaign after disciplinary indiscretions, which included late-night drinking.


2005 – Full-back Mils Muliaina and former prop Tony Coughlan were disciplined after they urinated in public bars.

All Blacks World Cup winning coach Graham Henry with Mils Muliaina1999 – Norm Hewitt smashed through the glass door of a house in Queenstown after a late-night drinking session. Hewitt would go on to make a public apology, and become a keen advocator of changing drinking habits in rugby.


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Beeno1
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22 Sept 2014, 22:35
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22 Sept 2014, 22:35#2
Shocking stuff there Sharkbok!!!! But what worries me most is girls getting involved with the inebriated and lecherous Crude!!! How would  you like your daughter to be out at night with the Crude! 
Hansen needs to lock them up at night in security establishment. 
Beeno offering sound advice to help cope with the wee abs drinking crises.
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23 Sept 2014, 02:34
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23 Sept 2014, 02:34#3
 

sharkbok
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23 Sept 2014, 02:56
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23 Sept 2014, 02:56#4
Yes Beeno, I don't think we should allow them to go to any night clubs in South Africa. Maybe they should be given jail cells as their accommodation when on tour.....
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23 Sept 2014, 03:02
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23 Sept 2014, 03:02#5
 
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23 Sept 2014, 04:27
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23 Sept 2014, 04:27#6
 Imagine how good the ABs would be if they were sober? The mind boggles.....
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23 Sept 2014, 06:41
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23 Sept 2014, 06:41#7
 OMG ! next thing you know they'll be letting Girl friends Mom bonking ,stripper scruffing,coke sniffing, steroid using ,farm worker murdering ,cop killing triple axe murderers play ! Man you guys dont need us throwing stones at yer glass house when your wee pebbles tossed from inside it are enough to shatter it.I know ,I know .It was all fun and games till narsty ol' Wardad  came along and poked your eye out ......
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23 Sept 2014, 11:12
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23 Sept 2014, 11:12#8
 Sharkbok BOYS WILL BE BOYS - men are able to conduct themselves with dignity.
Ou wapred DUD is blabbering on these a lot these days. That corporal has been working his case and he is more unhinged than ever!
If the wee abs were any good they would not need to rely on RAWS. 


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23 Sept 2014, 11:28
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23 Sept 2014, 11:28#9
Yeah i would rather have an alcoholic team than the 2nd or 3rd best team in the world. Screw it, I'd offer them a weekend at Escobar's palace if they would just win the freaking RC!
Sucks to admit it.
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23 Sept 2014, 11:55
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23 Sept 2014, 11:55#10
If they won fair and square you might have a point if you think conduct is irrelevant which it isnt.However the wee abs conduct off the field  is as bad as it is on the field - fact. 
JW please note the word fact is not in capitals - thanks
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23 Sept 2014, 11:55
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23 Sept 2014, 11:55#11
 Our boys be drunk and happy  ,better than being sober and second says Mr Plum ,and hes right you know .All work ,no pretties and too many prayers makes Jaques a dull angry little Bok !
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23 Sept 2014, 12:05
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23 Sept 2014, 12:05#12
 So what is it now beansh!t fer brains ? Is the ABS not being fair being all drunk or something ? your Ref All-a-the-time Whining is a bit on thine nose eh you ungracious pr!ck ? You still wont answer me as to who wins , the team with the most points at the end of the game [ABS]or the team with the whiniest supporters ?[ that would be you ] We established that you need MORE points than the other team to win [ no points for thinking your team played better or any such nonsense , this isnt figure skating or ballroom dancing ] So given that and the fact that since PE 2011 the ABS have had MORE points than the Boks at games end tell me without any of your "christian " lies and other such nonsense who won all those games ? Can you do that ? Bet ya cant eh ?Idiot.
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23 Sept 2014, 12:08
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23 Sept 2014, 12:08#13

Glad the SA "supporters" have something to distract them from the dismal performance of the 2nd best team in the world 

 

 

No need to thank us guys, we know you appreciate us & all we do, e.g. schooling the Boks on coaching, player development, player selection; how to support your team, etc. I won't go on as it might be seen as offensive for the more fragile egos amongst you.

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23 Sept 2014, 12:12
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23 Sept 2014, 12:12#14
Ou warped DUD getting more and more frothy as the day goes on!!
With the ref gifting the abs points via bent decisison its easy to win.I mean even Scotland would become a force with that sort of assistance. Would they then be the best team in the worl d- of course not.Getting a glimer ou wapred DUD 

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23 Sept 2014, 12:24
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23 Sept 2014, 12:24#15
 Still cant give credit where its due eh ? Dont kid yourself into thinking your anything other than whiny liar who has all the sportsmanship and graciousness of a bag of worn out bung holes.Correct answer is the ABS won all those games ? Not the refs or your imaginary friends or what have you .Just cant admit it can you ?Not very christian now are you ? Disgraceful behaviour for someone so much holier than thou ..I do see the sins of envy and pride in you though ,no charity or grace ....
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23 Sept 2014, 12:29
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23 Sept 2014, 12:29#16
 Lol Beeno. This highlights reel i am making of the Boks & ABs game. My "attack" section is filled up 90% with the ABs running the ball at the Boks, gaining ground almost at will. 
The Boks negative play and the belief that we can't play expansive rugby i s what makes us number 2. Not the ref. Sorry man.
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23 Sept 2014, 12:35
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23 Sept 2014, 12:35#17
 Sadly Meester Plum you can see all the tricksy runningness and sideways sneakin' ball passing being driven out of Le Roux like Beelzebub at an excorcists convention...
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23 Sept 2014, 12:36
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23 Sept 2014, 12:36#18
 Wardad, relax bro, SA also have their scandals concerning alcohol abuse by our rugby and cricket boys. Sharkbok is only rattling your cages a bit.
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23 Sept 2014, 12:36
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23 Sept 2014, 12:36#19
 Now ou warped DUD take your meds and keep calm. 
Once again you show your ignorance - a christian is a sinner saved by grace. Do you understand anything warped DUD. I note your complete lack of appreciation of all the material posted on my thread Prof John lennox rocks. I bet you were far, far too scared to even read the material and view the video clips and consider them carefully.
The abs test record is a fabrication as there are too many ref assisted wins in it.I will let up on you oaks when I see an imporovement but not before. 
This RC has been turned into a farce already with saSUE  crowing like a delsuional madman.  Hence why I love watching tennis these days. So save the bleats warped DUD they impress only you and a few loonies !

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23 Sept 2014, 13:57
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23 Sept 2014, 13:57#20
 There you go again beandip , bleating on about being a Christian while displaying none of the so called virtues .Lacking in grace , kindness and humility before God ....just lacking I guess .Dont quote me some no-nothing nobody like him, you should both postrate yourselves before God and beg forgiveness for your lack of Christian decency and humility .How dare you  profess to know his mind and his method of creation .Based on your lack of intelligence regarding things beyond your ken .For shame ! Sinners you and the other blasphemer ! In your pride you display idolatry of this mere man who would presume so much ! SINNERS ! 
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23 Sept 2014, 14:00
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23 Sept 2014, 14:00#21
 DB, just rattling that sinner beandork mate ! actually couldnt give a stuff if some young feller lashes out on the grog .I would have been so much worse !Judge not beandip ? You sinful little heathen you.
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23 Sept 2014, 14:24
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23 Sept 2014, 14:24#22
Baboon-ou, two bits of friendly advice for you . . .

"This RC has been turned into a farce already with saSUE crowing like a delsuional madman.  Hence why I love watching tennis these days."

I think this is a smart move on your part. I definitely think you should stick to tennis in future.

Secondly . . .

"I note your complete lack of appreciation of all the material posted on my thread Prof John lennox rocks."

There's no really nice way of saying this but please note that you're the only person who sees any value in all the laughable and naive nonsense you've posted on that thread. Your fellow believers are crimson-faced with embarrassment while the rest of us are laughing our heads off. I'm afraid it's a bit like watching the late Christopher Hitchens making one of your pseudoscience-spouting happy-clappy creationist's head spin without him even knowing what a complete fool Hitchens has just made of him while everyone else has a good belly laugh.  

I hope you accept this sincere and well-meaning advice in the spirit it was intended. Have fun on your tennis forum and don't worry about anyone here missing you . . . we won't.
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23 Sept 2014, 14:36
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23 Sept 2014, 14:36#23
 Bwahahahahaha ou rooitwit be honest now did you even view those video clips and other posts I made. You certainly never refuted them.You hero dawkin now suggesting that aliens could have injected whatever information is there. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAI heard Hitchkins once - it was just one long rant. Bit like some unhinged athiests here feeling their world fall apart!I will still be around here rooitwit - just to make your day! 
ou warped DUD getting more unhinged as the days go bye 
I posted a summary of the stupidity of atheists go and read on the Lennox thread. Man you guys are comics! Its an excellent summary of the absurdity of atheistic "thought" Professing themselves to be wise they became fools. Amen and Amen.


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23 Sept 2014, 14:50
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23 Sept 2014, 14:50#24
"How dare you  profess to know his mind and his method of creation" opines the warped DUD.Who said I knew his method - it's way way way beyond any human intelligence warped DUD - my point exactly Bwahahahhahaha
What I do know from the the Word of God  is that he created the Universe and I see now that the scientific discoveries support that view 100%. You see warped DUD you can know what God has revealed of His mind from the bible. Man ou warped DUD simply has no clue whatsoever. That God created the heavens and the earth is abundantly clear from His word and from science. 
We are now in the porcess of mopping up the wee atheists who are the screaming blue murder and throwing their toys out the cot. What else can they do as they can't refute the evidence. The more they imagine vain things the dafter they look.Aliens are invoke and multi verses etc hahahahahahahhahahaha.
Rather than shooting the messenger - if you only could - why not consider the evidence I have presented which proves my case 100%. You need to move on from being a darwinian dinossaur!
Instead you copy the Hitchkins way of simply ranting away like an unhinged lunatic. Ditto wee rooitwit. 



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23 Sept 2014, 15:00
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23 Sept 2014, 15:00#25
 rooitwit no amount of bluster can save you from the fact you cannot refute the DNA information FACT which led the likes of FLEw to depart the sinking darwinian ship. You hav ebeen badly exposed and you know it. 
Rooitwit turning a brighter shade of pink - red in fact!!Its game set and match to the fact that God created the universe. Those articles and video clips completely shatter the daft atheistic view. There is no bigger fool than the atheist. I mean who is as daft as an athiest? That summary of the athisitic blunders I posted on the Lennox post shows the truth of my statement.Truth always trumps bluster rooitwit and that is your big problem.No more rants please rooitwit you are only making a complete rooi twit of yourself!!! 



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23 Sept 2014, 15:07
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23 Sept 2014, 15:07#26
 Beeno, I did try to have a reasonable discussion with you. Unfortunately your rudeness and sheer hypocrisy meant that i got bored. Nothing of any substance came out of that "debate".
Just like there is zero substance in continually arguing that the ABs are no.1 due to refs. 

You cannot expect Oz and Kiwi supporters on here to take you seriously when you rely on an excuse based system for arguing the Boks to be the best. It simply doesn't work that way.
I think most on here will agree that without poor selection policies and shocking management the Boks would be much closer to the ABs. See...that's normal reasoning and doesn't require excuses. Taking responsibility is what it's about.
I hate bad calls just as much as the next guy. But at the end, just like in boxing & mma, if it's a draw, then the champ is taking his belt back home with him. You gotta topple him, and topple him convincingly to claim the crown.
Of the people i have met on here, the two who have displayed the least christian values are the the exact same two who scream it from the rooftops at everyone else. And it also seems that those two people are the only two who are blind to their double standards. Co-incidence? 
Also, why do you keep bringing religion into this? are you trying to convince yourself, cos you are doing a terrible job at convincing anyone else. Bad example maybe?

Are you not able to take a step out of yourself for a moment and reflect? Maybe it's time dude. 
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23 Sept 2014, 15:09
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23 Sept 2014, 15:09#27
 Rooie has your number you faux christian you ,and when I ascend to Vallhalla to sit at Odins everlasting PARRRRTTTYYYY!!!!! I will p!ss off my cloud on yer pointy wee head while you pluck ya harp or some other boring shyte .Meanwhile riding my personal Valkyrie [ and I know they aint a horse !] laughing like a loon watching the ABS make wee bean dip cry...
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23 Sept 2014, 15:13
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23 Sept 2014, 15:13#28
 Plum , maaaate ! Its no use trying to make a silk purse out of that pigs earhole called beandork .Its too late mate ,his mind slipped away from this world 11-09-72 .The remains were interred in an egg cup.
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23 Sept 2014, 15:18
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23 Sept 2014, 15:18#29
 warped DUD getying shriller by the moment. Take ytour meds before you expire Man what a sad half wit this oak is.Rooi twit explain the information found in DNA. Dont use aliens - that clown dawkins has already used that one. Hmmmmm maybe it was the man in the mooon!! Or Fairies! BWahahahahahahahhahaha
One cant take these hatters seriously and I dont. 
Beeno so unimpressed with the weak kneed atheists who rant and rave but who cant answer the evidence. 
Warped dud what do you think of the sumary re how foolish atheists are. Are you severely embarassed and like rooi  twit turning abrighter shade of red? No pain no gain boet!

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23 Sept 2014, 15:26
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23 Sept 2014, 15:26#30
Beeno: how many points will the Boks win by this weekend ?
JW trying to add focus & stability to beeno's troubled noggin


  

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23 Sept 2014, 15:33
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23 Sept 2014, 15:33#31
 Well beandork your wee pile of whatever you call it did provide me with clarity .Thanks to you I now have no doubts at all ,no fence sitting or hedging my bets .No wishful thinking or hoping for the best .They say there are no atheists in foxholes .It means when men are afraid they will hang on to anything .Thanks to you I am utterly certain .I have seen the total and utter truth of things .I dont want any part of your farking nonsense , not in any way shape or form .Your pretend friggin "evidence " is evidence that your a god damned idiot [ irony intended ] If being a "Christian " meant being anything at all remotely like you or your idiot "professor " I would rather worship Baal ,or asmodeus or tinkerfeckingbell cos theyre all fairy tales for frightened fools . I will not cut 99% of my brain out to be like you and your buddy.And you dispelled any doubts on this matter .Well done and thanks !
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23 Sept 2014, 15:56
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23 Sept 2014, 15:56#32
ou warped DUD gets shriller and will be soon be hitting top C!!! 
Answer the evidence you dope or forever hold your peace. Your rants only prove how unhinged and bankrupt you are. Ditto rooi   twit. Rants and bluster mean zip as we all should know.   
Also, take your meds warped DUD you are about to expire. 
Man it must be a bit frustrating to only have rantings and bluster to fall back on. If only Beeno would go and watch some tennis!! 
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23 Sept 2014, 15:59
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23 Sept 2014, 15:59#33
 Fu.ck off you tool you have ZERO evidence  saying its so doesnt make it so,and I meant every word .Tool.Shoe your bullsh!t religion fair up your ars.e.Idiot .
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23 Sept 2014, 16:10
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23 Sept 2014, 16:10#34
I did warn everyone on multiple occasions that Baboon-ou is much too stupid to debate anything with.

Do you guys believe me now?

Once you realize Baboon-ou is a blithering half-wit with the IQ of a pot plant and the attention span of a subnormal goldfish you can simply have a laugh at him. Good luck trying to engage this idiot in meaningful debate . . . in my experience that can be compared to herding cats.
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23 Sept 2014, 16:20
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23 Sept 2014, 16:20#35

If everyone on here was logical & intelligent it would be a boring place

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23 Sept 2014, 16:30
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23 Sept 2014, 16:30#36
 We live and learn 
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23 Sept 2014, 16:39
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23 Sept 2014, 16:39#37
Beeno doesn't !! 
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23 Sept 2014, 16:59
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23 Sept 2014, 16:59#38
 
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23 Sept 2014, 17:00
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23 Sept 2014, 17:00#39
 Beeno just posts evidence from various highly qualified scientists and the arguments are ignored and all I get is bluster and rants.It's clearly game set and match.Plum you tried one answer which made the same self-contradictory mistakes that poor Hawkin made!!!! That was really dumb. I did though give you credit for at least trying but giving more credit was not possible.
I do hope Plum you read my post re the rank stupidity of atheists. Great summary and I have a huge laugh whenever I read how foolish these twits are.
Beeno unmoved by bluster and insane rants. 
How long can poor warped DUD stay out of the funny farm is another question. 
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23 Sept 2014, 17:08
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23 Sept 2014, 17:08#40
 Don't worry your little head Beeno, we've got this 

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